I'd argue they're the value compared to US high end production. Reate and WE are making knives of higher quality than a good majority of their US production counterparts in respective price brackets.
I agree. I have two knives made by WE, and they are phenomenal. I own and have owned knives made in many countries; US, Italy, China, Taiwan, Japan, Pakistan, and more. Every country has good and bad products. I have three Chinese knives; Massdrop/FF/WE gent select CF, WE Deacon (carrying it today) and a Kizer (can't remember the model) and all three have been flawlessly made.
I no longer own nor will I buy Benchmades. I will not pay more for a knife with lesser materials and substandard QC just because they are an American company
poor labor standards causing basically modern slave labor and zero concern for the environment always produces a more economical product.
More economical? Sometimes. Slave labor? Hard to say. Things are obviously changing in Asia, which is why we are seeing quality products coming out of there.
Most electronics come from Asia. I figure if my TV and home theater system are going to be coming from there, why get snooty about other things being American made. Same with shoes and cars.
Value and quality are more important to me than country of origin.
I look online at knives for example:
Benchmade 551-1 Griptilian: G-10 with partial steel liners, CPM-20CV, 3.45" blade, PB washers, axis lock. $178.50 at BHQ.
Spyderco PM2: G-10, full nested liners, 3.44" blade, CPM-S110V, PB washers, compression lock. $172.25 at BHQ.
WE Streak: G-10, Ti frame, Bohler M390, 3.4" blade, bearings, liner/frame lock. $146.00 at BHQ
Whats a good value and whats a ripoff?
Well from experience I know:
The Grip will most likely have centering issues and very possibly blade play.
The PM2 should be good to go. My buddy's is absolute perfection. Only problems I've EVER had with a Spyderco has been with S30V, but that was my experience with all brands with that steel.
The WE should also be perfect, based on my experiences.
IMO, the PM2 and the Streak are the good values, the Grip is the ripoff.