Incredible custom strider!

RL said:
i don't understand your point...strider didn't promise this knife to someone five years ago at a cheaper price...he sold it now at the current market price...just like fisk will sell his new knives to new customers at their current market price, even if it is 2.5X what you were promised 5 years ago...

btw, it is considered poor etiquette to compare makers as you did...


RL
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Its considered poor etiquette to even "make believe" that knife is worth
$4500.
 
Kevin Jones said:
Of course not. As I said I don't care for it.
I'm selective as to which maker's knives I collect, but also very selective with which knives I buy from those makers.
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Kevin, fair enough, I must have missed your point. If another maker made this knife, who didn't make any military claims or asked for this price, it probably would not have recieved as much attention.

It's passed my bedtime so maybe I still didn't answer what you were getting at? If you make it to the show, hopefully I'll see you tomorrow.
 
Jose Reyes said:
Kevin, fair enough, I must have missed your point. If another maker made this knife, who didn't make any military claims or asked for this price, it probably would not have recieved as much attention.
It's passed my bedtime so maybe I still didn't answer what you were getting at? If you make it to the show, hopefully I'll see you tomorrow.
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You make a good point there.
 
Bladeandbarrel said:
I guess I don't understand your statement, Steven. We are all accountable here, not just you.

This is more about the accountability of the maker.
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Accountable for our words and actions, Anthony.

Started off here with a screen name, because I like it....but have signed my birth name to EVERY post I make, because, from day one, wanted to be accountable for what was written, and not be some 16 year old snotnose punk from BFN talking large, but someone that people could come up and talk to at shows, or offline, and that what I wrote would hopefully be of use to someone besides myself.

My posting on this subject hurts Josh Lee, and, while I feel bad about making a friend uncomfortable, would feel a heck of a lot crappier saying nothing...especially when I had an experience at a recent show that was relevant to the discussion....not something in the ethernet, but a real see-it, touch-it, examine-it, in-the-flesh experience, with someone else more knowledgeable and experienced about these things, than me.

That's what I mean about accountability...you may know Josh personally, too...but how many other people here do?

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Kohai999 said:
Accountable for our words and actions, Anthony.

Started off here with a screen name, because I like it....but have signed my birth name to EVERY post I make, because, from day one, wanted to be accountable for what was written, and not be some 16 year old snotnose punk from BFN talking large, but someone that people could come up and talk to at shows, or offline, and that what I wrote would hopefully be of use to someone besides myself.

My posting on this subject hurts Josh Lee, and, while I feel bad about making a friend uncomfortable, would feel a heck of a lot crappier saying nothing...especially when I had an experience at a recent show that was relevant to the discussion....not something in the ethernet, but a real see-it, touch-it, examine-it, in-the-flesh experience, with someone else more knowledgeable and experienced about these things, than me.

That's what I mean about accountability...you may know Josh personally, too...but how many other people here do?

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
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A critique of the knife in question isn't a personal attack on Josh, is it?
FWIW, I do not know Josh personally. My statements have nothing to do with Josh.

I read this quote somewhere and really liked it. It is often appropriate for BFC.

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."
-Upton Sinclair
 
Bladeandbarrel said:
A critique of the knife in question isn't a personal attack on Josh, is it?
FWIW, I do not know Josh personally. My statements have nothing to do with Josh.

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It might help if some here DID know Josh personally...it might temper some of the words chosen...is it a personal attack?

Let's just say that from ME he takes it a bit personally...we move in many of the same circles, know many of the same people.

You ever hurt someone that you care about by not filtering your comments on the internet, Anthony, Kevin, Joss, Roger...even, gasp, Les?

I'm not proposing self-censorship, here, just asking a legitimate question.

And, Anthony, FWIW, from the way I read it, you are drawing a direct line between people who purchased pet rocks, and someone that ponied up $4,500 for this here Strider Custom....is that correct?

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Hi Josh@Strider --

Any pics or info about Mick forging damascus? He must have some big press, or power hammer? What kind of forge? Does he do the heat treating himself? What kinds of steel is he working with?
 
Kohai999 said:
And, Anthony, FWIW, from the way I read it, you are drawing a direct line between people who purchased pet rocks, and someone that ponied up $4,500 for this here Strider Custom....is that correct?
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Speaking for other people is probably an extremely bad habit to get into, but I think the point he was implying was simply that actual popularity is not entirely indicative of deserved popularity.

Either that or he was hinting that some people just have way too much money to blow on "questionably wise" purchases.
 
AfterTFD said:
Speaking for other people is probably an extremely bad habit to get into, but I think the point he was implying was simply that actual popularity is not entirely indicative of deserved popularity.

Either that or he was hinting that some people just have way too much money to blow on "questionably wise" purchases.
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Yep. Thats what I was alluding to. I think Steven knows that.
 
Bladeandbarrel said:
A critique of the knife in question isn't a personal attack on Josh, is it?
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no but snide remarks about Mick's integrity and sweeping references to customers/fans as suckers etc. would certainly qualify as personal...thanks for keeping it professional :rolleyes:

RL
 
Kohai999 said:
My reception would have been exactly the same given the qualities of the blade, as shown, from a picture(which we all know we can't tell anything about the knife from, anyway;)), regardless if it was the great Bill Moran himself.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
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I can attest to this, I have met STeven several times over the last couple of years and have acually sought out his input on my knives because he is one of the most knowledgebal collectors that I PERSONALLY KNOW. i am not saying he is the most knowledgebal. As an example i hade him look over some of the knives that I took to the ABS Reno expo and he did not pull any punches a couple of the knives that i took he really lambasted. does that mean tha tthey really sucked? not sure but he did not like them that was obvious. and i think that is what happened here he does not like Mick's knife......Period. and i respect that, personally i like the grinds and the idea of melding old school technology ie damascus with modern grinding techniques and design.
 
I really like the look of leather over ivory! It is a very nice visual effect.
 
Chuck,

I bought this knife from Mick a few weeks ago- he had several others and I picked this particular one to offer to my collectors.

You are making broad accusations (nothing new for you) and taking cheap shots (nothing new for you) at another Knifemaker and basically accusing him of screwing up this blade by unintentionally leaving on what is his trademark style of forging/knifemaking.

Just because STeve thinks that this particular piece is different from his previous work doesn't make it wrong.

You may not like it or agree with it, but it is very bad form, in my opinion, for one jealous knifemaker to trash another man's work- like you seem to like to do.

I also find it concerning that a guy, RL, makes an innocent post re a knife that he thinks is cool and it turns into a wholesale bashing of a knifemaker who none of you would ever have the balls to confront in person on this or any other issue.

Neil



striper28 said:
I can agree that sometimes patterning does compliment a knife, when it is done intentionally.
This doesn't look like it was done that way. Since he is making his own steel, he could have easily forged that mark out or even surface ground it out.

It's one thing to do it that way on purpose, it's another to leave it there.

Daniel Winkler does a fine job of doing it on purpose.
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I like the knife, but there's no way I could/would pay that much. Heck, I've never come close to paying that much for a knife.
 
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