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Murphnuge said:
I've been up since 0500 watching Wranglerstar's videos. This Christmas break has my sleep jacked up, I HATE DAYSHIFT.
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Snap out of it man. Pick up a sixpack of Floppy Pancake Play-Doh Ale and catch a Bieber concert on Netflix. And Merry Christmas by the way.
 
I'm reminded of another time I stopped by a friend's place many years ago, about this time of year, and asked him where his Christmas tree was....

"We're smokin' it, dummy."

As for me, I'll be sticking to beer and whiskey this holiday season. Have fun and don't forget to designate a sober driver, everyone :)
 
Kind of like the looks of this Schrade:

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Getting ready to take the children hiking. Gonna' wear them out so they'll go to bed tonight.

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Oh, and the world's back on kilter. Picked up a Snowpeak Litemax Titanium burner yesterday.
 
The Warrior said:
Kind of like the looks of this Schrade:

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Schrade just released a handful of interesting stuff. I've got that one and two other small fixed blades waiting in my shopping cart. Their new Bolo looks good too, not that I need another large chopping blade.
 
A guy from the slingshot forum broke the Guinness world record, by shooting 13 cans in a minute. He's done 14 before, but it wasn't official. He was using 2045 tubes, and 7/16 ball bearings. The distance is 33 feet. He did it back in June, but just got an e-mail from Guinness today confirming it:

[video=youtube;CmTU_DzgrcA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmTU_DzgrcA[/video]

Here's the previous record holder at 12 cans. It's a bit more "official" looking:

[video=youtube;E9E86DmwXqg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9E86DmwXqg#t=0[/video]
 
The Warrior said:
It is. The site says it's 8Cr13 High Carbon Stainless Steel. WTF is that? Never heard of high carbon stainless.
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that's a chinese steel, right? similar to 440C, IIRC.
In any case, most average stainless steels have a fair amount of carbon in 'em - what we'd call high-carbon in the non-stainless world. That's just marketing speak to confuse people who don't know much about steel, but have heard that 'carbon steel is better, right?'. Which is most of their market.

disingenuous marketing, particularly when trying to sell an off-shored product as superior rather than cost-saving, really sticks in my craw. HOWEVER, I DO like the design and execution on that blade a great deal (from the picture). Imagine it in CPM154.
 
The Warrior said:
It is. The site says it's 8Cr13 High Carbon Stainless Steel. WTF is that? Never heard of high carbon stainless.
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8cr13 is the most common of the Chinese budget steels. You'll find it in some budget lines like the Spyderco Tenacious or Byrd line, or the Chinese kershaws like the Thermite, Cryo,... Of course, it's plenty available in Chinese brands such as Sanrenmu or Enlan/Bee. Sharpens up to a réally sharp edge in no-time. Holds its edge OK, but it's not like it's s30v, vg10 or Elmax. Think of it as AUS-8 but easier to sharpen.
 
daizee said:
that's a chinese steel, right? similar to 440C, IIRC.
In any case, most average stainless steels have a fair amount of carbon in 'em - what we'd call high-carbon in the non-stainless world. That's just marketing speak to confuse people who don't know much about steel, but have heard that 'carbon steel is better, right?'. Which is most of their market.

disingenuous marketing, particularly when trying to sell an off-shored product as superior rather than cost-saving, really sticks in my craw. HOWEVER, I DO like the design and execution on that blade a great deal (from the picture). Imagine it in CPM154.
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Ah, gotcha. I like that the handle is 4.8" long too. Might fit my hand. If they measured from the point by the ricasso, to the end, probably not.
 
granitestateofmind said:
Had that one in my "watch list" before I decided I had better slow down a little on the knife acquisitions....not expensive and micarta slabs, IIRC. Very sexy. Do you think the handle is long enough for you, Dubz?
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The Warrior said:
Ah, gotcha. I like that the handle is 4.8" long too. Might fit my hand. If they measured from the point by the ricasso, to the end, probably not.
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There ya go.
 
Could always grind the end off a bit. Obviously a quick rendering:

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daizee said:
that's a chinese steel, right? similar to 440C, IIRC.
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Less carbon and less alloying than 440C. More like 440A. There's nothing "confusing" or "disingenuous" about calling it a "high carbon steel", it's a fact. It just also happens to have a bunch of chrome in it... hence, high-carbon stainless.

The Warrior said:
It is. The site says it's 8Cr13 High Carbon Stainless Steel. WTF is that? Never heard of high carbon stainless.
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Sure you have, you just didn't realize it :) With rare exceptions, every good knife steel is medium or high carbon. It's the carbon level that makes steel hardenable. Whether or not it's stainless is irrelevant.

8Cr13MoV is a mid-grade stainless cutlery steel with .8% carbon, 13% chromium and a splash of molybdenum and vanadium (less than .3% each). The carbon allows it to be hardened, the chrome helps with quenching process, forms carbides and provides corrosion-resistance, and the Mo and V are there to keep grain structure under control and help it harden through without severe quenching. There's nothing real spectacular about it, but it makes serviceable knife blades and doesn't cost a whole lot. I'd put it in the same class with AUS-8, 440A/B, 420HC, etc.

"Super" stainless steels like CPM-154, Elmax and so on have even more carbon than plain "high-carbon" steels like 1095 and O1, and boatloads of fun stuff like moly, tungsten and vanadium. They need the extra carbon to form carbides with those elements; the carbides are what gives them more abrasion resistance.

On the other hand, there are also many grades of low-carbon stainless, that can't be hardened but is pretty tough and extremely corrosion-resistant... used for knife guards and Corby bolts and doorknobs and toasters and all kinds of stuff. Look around, your house is loaded with it. :)

Sorry to geek out on ya like that... don't start me to talkin', I'll tell everything I know. :o
 
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It's fun, innit? :)

The Joe Talmadge site is probably the single best resource available for knife people who want to learn more about steel. I strongly recommend it. :thumbup:
 
A lot of the less expensive Kershaw stuff is made from 8Cr13MoV, IF I am not mistaken. I have been very happy with any and all Kershaw knives that I have owned.
 
Omelettes are still in season here at Casa de Guyon.

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Christmas colors!

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Flip it, beeyotches!

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Oh heck yeah.

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