Input for Military 2.

Go with CPM S125V. Though I’d prefer BG-42 for general utility use. Just make sure you avoid doing the same thing that happened with S60V. If you use S125V, don’t try to make it do things it was never meant to do.
The compression lock, or anything reliable that Spyderco can come up with would be great. I don’t really have a preference in handles, as long as it’s good for utility.
 
Sal Glesser said:
Thanx again for the input.

The Mili2 would be the same basic concept and a similar pattern (shape).

Questions we're studying:

Locks:
Compression lock - either integral or with scales
Stop-Lock' now in development
Compression lock offers greater reliability and strength, IMO.
Dual nested skeletonized liners planned, again, light weight is a major factor.
4 way clip is a must.
While we'll retain the full flat, there is some question about strengthing
the tip like the new End/Del 4's?
low maintenance is a major factor for the "spirit" of this design.

I'd like to see what happens with the S125V Native Sprint coming up.
sal
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looks like you have everything covered
i just want to know more about the "stop-lock" (i know you cant show us :grumpy: )like how well i could use it with gloves on
the mili never let me down even with the 2 layer gloves i had in the marines
would have loved a 4 way clip
please done do the tip like the new delica4 while i know the tip needs more strength (i broke off about 1/8 inch off my ats34 mili) maybe you can just give it a slight leaf blade spine not too much that would add strength and make it better at sliding the tip under com wire and rock back cuts
yes i i tortured my mili but it just kept on going
s125v sounds good if you can make it not bad to sharpen my ats 34 was not bad but i had heard that the 440v blades took some work
if the s125v is chip resistant then lets have it i now have dmt sharpeners and a sharpmaker so i fear no steel long as i have a little time;)
o and one more thing can i get a little notch in the handle to cut wire /rope in the closing motion like the assist
thank you for letting us "help"
butch
 
Thanx Butch. Appreciate the comments.

That's exactly what the Mili was designed and built to do. I use mine hard as well.

Thanx for the comment on the handle notch. what size?

Can't say much about the new lock yet, sorry. We're working on a concept model for the SHOT show. I'll be able to say more then.

Certainly the "gloves use" is a major part of the design, and needs to be carefully considered.

sal
 
How about using screws for the clip that accept a torx driver, ala Scorpius?

I don't know if much needs to be done to the shape of the blade. Maybe a stronger tip, but I'm a fan of the pointer tip myself.

I think it's important for the lock to be ambi. The ball bearing lock would be a good choice. Is the stop lock ambi?

How do leftys like the comp lock? Does it work left handed?

I think the most important things are an ambi lock and a 4-way clip. Everything else is just gravy.

-Bryan
 
please, no cobra hood as it is ugly and superflous( I love the salsa anyway)
4-way clip
compression lock

Am I the only one who actually likes a heavy knife?
 
I don't really like how the lock on the Military looks or feels. It is a good lock, but it doesn't look or feel strong to me, even though I'm sure it is.

If the Military was a lockback, it would be higher on my "to buy" list, along with the Manix and Police. I'd also want a thicker handle, thick liners, and a thinker blade. But then, well, you'd have a Manix.

I know the advantage of the nested liner lock is that you get a thiner knife, but I guess I just prefer a thicker feel in my hand.
 
This one is easy:

- Same blade, no 'Military' marking.
- More flare to the handle in the pivot area, not a big guard, but something to help keep your hand off the blade
- Ball lock or lockback. I like liner locks, but the sizing of the Military handle makes its current lock all wrong for me.
- Maybe a nice non-black G10 for the scales. Dark OD green, gray, navy, anything like that.
- An inset silver 'bug' like on the Centofante III/IV might be nice too, or a contrasting G10 bug would be even cooler!
 
Although already mentioned, I would love to see clip mounting options for us left-handed folks! There are several models I would have purchased if available with left handed clips.
 
Sal Glesser said:
Thanx again for the input.

The Military (as a linerlock) is still being refined incrementally.

We'll be playing with the jimping behind the hole.
We'll be adding jimping to the finger choil.
We're still playing with carbon fiber versions in the rougher texture like
the current CF Mili.

The Mili2 would be the same basic concept and a similar pattern (shape).

Questions we're studying:

Locks:
Compression lock - either integral or with scales
Ball Bearing lock with BB holder like the "Pickle".
Stop-Lock' now in development

We probably wouldn't use a lock-back. Size/Weight is a major factor.
We probably wouldn't use an Reeve style integral linerlock as the
Compression lock offers greater reliability and strength, IMO.

Dual nested skeletonized liners planned, again, light weight is a major factor.

4 way clip is a must.

While we'll retain the full flat, there is some question about strengthing
the tip like the new End/Del 4's?

The "Military" has already been replaced by the "bug".

A more economical model could be made with FRN scales?

Steel would probably be among the best performers and we'd probably stick with a stainless. CPM non stainless steels like 3V & M4 have a greater advantage on a larger blade used for chopping or impact, but low maintenance is a major factor for the "spirit" of this design.

Hi Eastern Blade

S90V is dear to my heart as well, but first I'd like to see what happens with the S125V Native Sprint coming up. One of the two would be my preference.

Thanx again for sharing your thoughts.

sal
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Please don't forget one thing Sal: make this one fully serrated as well :D

Furthermore a compresion lock like the Para would be great, so would a reinforced tip and I would go for just the G10( feels great in my hand and why fix what ain't broken?)
 
An FRN Miitary is an interesting suggestion. I think I'd pay the difference and stick with G10 unless there was a significant price difference though- say $30 and up. I think it'd be kinda cool if the word Military was cut out of the G10 like the Ocelot scales, but I don't expect it to happen.
 
How about a "navy" model? Ti handel scales and a H-1 blade? compression lock and whatnot? seawater is hell on steel,and it would make a great hunting knife :p
 
Sal
might not have to put a groove in the handle to cut wire and det-cord
maybe just the addition of texturing to help to keep things from slipping off the handle
as soon as i get the mill up and running im going to see just how much and at what part of the handle work best
after i thought about it a while an 1/8 inch grove for wire in the handle seemed like it might make a "hot spot" while in use and something the size needed for det-cord would for sure 3/16-1/4 inch
butch
 
I also think it needs a slightly larger finger choil and more jimping? (up and over the hole)
 
I'd certainly change the lock, it's the only thing that has kept me from purchasing one-- anything but a liner lock. Should I be able to make other changes, I would make the tip a bit more robust considering the Military's utility role, or use a tougher steel.

I would also trim the butt of the handle up a bit, but that's just me.

The overall shape of the blade is excellent; the thin profile is exactly what I like in a pocket knife; I really like the oversized opening hole
 
Sal Glesser said:
Thanx again for the input.

The Military (as a linerlock) is still being refined incrementally.

We'll be playing with the jimping behind the hole.
We'll be adding jimping to the finger choil.
We're still playing with carbon fiber versions in the rougher texture like
the current CF Mili.

The Mili2 would be the same basic concept and a similar pattern (shape).

Questions we're studying:

Locks:
Compression lock - either integral or with scales
Ball Bearing lock with BB holder like the "Pickle".
Stop-Lock' now in development

We probably wouldn't use a lock-back. Size/Weight is a major factor.
We probably wouldn't use an Reeve style integral linerlock as the
Compression lock offers greater reliability and strength, IMO.

Dual nested skeletonized liners planned, again, light weight is a major factor.

4 way clip is a must.

While we'll retain the full flat, there is some question about strengthing
the tip like the new End/Del 4's?

The "Military" has already been replaced by the "bug".

A more economical model could be made with FRN scales?

Steel would probably be among the best performers and we'd probably stick with a stainless. CPM non stainless steels like 3V & M4 have a greater advantage on a larger blade used for chopping or impact, but low maintenance is a major factor for the "spirit" of this design.

Hi Eastern Blade

S90V is dear to my heart as well, but first I'd like to see what happens with the S125V Native Sprint coming up. One of the two would be my preference.

Thanx again for sharing your thoughts.

sal
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Sounds about perfect to me, though I'd like to see a low riding clip, at least as an option. And now that I look at mine, I remember wishing it had a metal spacer in the butt for some "light" hammering (tent stake or a stuck bolt action).
 
Never bought a Military, because it is a liner lock - so the decision to go with a compression lock (a la Paramilitary, of which I have 2) would be a great one.

Other than that, I wouldn't see much need for change, except to use VG-10 (seems to be much easier to sharpen than other Spydies I've owned).
 
Mr. Glesser:
Is there a rough estimated time-frame? With all this great input my bet is on it being phenominal.
Thanks.
 
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