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Inside out Stag!?!?
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No, no, I think Mr. Levine is on to something here.
Interesting thoughts re: reindeer, scruffuk.
Great knife, Charlie-- a lot to be excited (and curious) about, here.
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This is not exactly common today but historically:
Excerpt from "Synagoga Judaica" by Buxtorf
" They mark the milk vessels with three special signs; they cut three notches in the wood, because the aforementioned verse occurs three times in the Law of Moses"....."Every Jew always carries two knives, one for meat, and one for cheese and fish. The latter is also marked with three notches..."
Excerpt from "Synagoga Judaica" by Buxtorf
" They mark the milk vessels with three special signs; they cut three notches in the wood, because the aforementioned verse occurs three times in the Law of Moses"....."Every Jew always carries two knives, one for meat, and one for cheese and fish. The latter is also marked with three notches..."
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Garbage? Wow. I am just wondering out loud, but if you had a chance to say what you really thought, what would you say?
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One man's garbage is another man's treasure.
I would defend with my life your right to make such a statement jakemex, regardless of how much I disagree!
Great revelation Brad!! Closest to a reasonable explanation I have "seen/thought of/heard of" yet!
There is beauty in that answer!
I would defend with my life your right to make such a statement jakemex, regardless of how much I disagree!
Great revelation Brad!! Closest to a reasonable explanation I have "seen/thought of/heard of" yet!
There is beauty in that answer!
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If you ever get some spare time
take a look at Jewish ritual, or any old culture for that matter, as it pertains to knives. There is much to learn for the person who enjoys cutlery history. Just to wet your curiosity a bit, the common practice of checking a blades sharpness on the finger nail, dates at least to the writing of the Talmud, around 200 AD. Not only for sharpness but to detect any imperfections in the edge. This test is required prior to performing the deed in slaughter. I have witnessed this practice personally, still in use today, and is the basis for a knife being rejected as it would inflict undue pain and suffering to the animal.Off topic maybe to the extreme. Sorry about that. BTW, I think the knife is way cool. Great find Charlie!
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Thanks! here is the link
https://pantherfile.uwm.edu/corre/www/buxdorf/chp26.html
so, Charlie found himself a Jewish Fish knife
what kind of fish is Jewish? Why, Gefilte, of course.
Now to continue to reveal my ignorance:
This look like cow bone to me..
Not sure if there is a rule against using cow bones on Jewish Fish Knives..
and this looks like cow bone to me, never seen an antler with that kind of pattern
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I just got chance to take those snaps....
Top left is Red Deer, the two small pieces Moose, the bottom pieces Reindeer.
Upon reflection I reckon it could be either of these two 'R' deers. Here's a closer look, see what you folks think?
The outer surface looks like that of the Red (and possibly many others):
But the pith section is HUGE on Red, from what I've seen:
The Reindeer on the other hand is a good deal smoother on the surface:
But the antler 'wall'(?) is thicker (with an inner and outer layer), with less pith:
Moose btw, has almost no visible pith! It's really so much more dense:
Of course these are only the examples I have here.
Maybe, I'd hazard it is actually Red deer though, given its a British knife. It's pretty much a pest species and has been culled for decades/centuries. Maybe it's was from just down the road, in Derby (from where it gets its name
).
Top left is Red Deer, the two small pieces Moose, the bottom pieces Reindeer.
Upon reflection I reckon it could be either of these two 'R' deers. Here's a closer look, see what you folks think?
The outer surface looks like that of the Red (and possibly many others):
But the pith section is HUGE on Red, from what I've seen:
The Reindeer on the other hand is a good deal smoother on the surface:
But the antler 'wall'(?) is thicker (with an inner and outer layer), with less pith:
Moose btw, has almost no visible pith! It's really so much more dense:
Of course these are only the examples I have here.
Maybe, I'd hazard it is actually Red deer though, given its a British knife. It's pretty much a pest species and has been culled for decades/centuries. Maybe it's was from just down the road, in Derby (from where it gets its name
).
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Yes, the word garbage that I used is what I thought. Looked like an old ribsteak bone to me. Thanks for slicing the antler for an example. Not everyone thinks the same obviously. Not trying to be contentious, it is not beautiful handle material. 
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Thanks for that display, Scruff!:thumbup:
More and more, I believe it is antler on the OP.
And thanks for the link, Jon!!
I must now go purify my Christian soul!!
You learn something every day around here, if you keep an open mind and pay attention!!
More and more, I believe it is antler on the OP.
And thanks for the link, Jon!!
I must now go purify my Christian soul!!
You learn something every day around here, if you keep an open mind and pay attention!!
My first thought was, "I wonder what that guy did three times that deserves such commemoration?" But the explanation by Ptradeco makes more sense.
Personally, I love it. Whether the near-marrow inside of a bone or the pith interior of an antler, it gives the knife more interesting character and visual texture than the standard jigged bone or rough stag.
Personally, I love it. Whether the near-marrow inside of a bone or the pith interior of an antler, it gives the knife more interesting character and visual texture than the standard jigged bone or rough stag.
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Most religions have a trinity and ritual/sects in 3's...I'm ocd about 3's, I do everything almost in threes out of habit (divide 100% x 3 and you get 3's lots of 3's !!!) lol
Its a really nice knife though imo.
I was going to chime in with something "similar" but man you got it nailed down; thanks for posting those pictures.
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Very Interesting Thread, and the ideas are great Brad you have come up with a good one!
Fes - do me a favour here sir, you posted a small pile of really" knarly - popcorn Stag" that you had around 6 months ago? If you could place that photo again? because I am thinking that's what your Carving set looked like before finishing.
Charlie, when you are tossing out the garbage next time-could you give me a yell, as I am sure going to be hanging around your street that day
Fes - do me a favour here sir, you posted a small pile of really" knarly - popcorn Stag" that you had around 6 months ago? If you could place that photo again? because I am thinking that's what your Carving set looked like before finishing.
Charlie, when you are tossing out the garbage next time-could you give me a yell, as I am sure going to be hanging around your street that day