InsurgentNarhwal AKA Jared Walters of Paso Robles, CA

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I ran into an issue with this seller also some time back. Purchased a knife from him and he sent me the wrong knife. He had sold two knives and sent them out to the wrong individuals. I agreed to send the knife off to the right person and they would forward my knife to me. He agreed to pay the shipping fee of $5.15. I did end up with the correct knife but he would not send payment for the shipping fee I had to pay to correct his mistake.

I believe we will have more and more come out with stories like this. Possibly to different degrees of misdealing.

Quote of the week. I'm amazed this fellow doesn't even bother to stop by and say his peace about the matter. At this point the silence says it all, I guess. Thanks for the heads up. Appreciated.

The thread will remain open. I all for giving Jared a chance to speak up for himself. I am considering posting the guys full name, city, and (possibly) address on here as well.
 
Wow, where to begin with all of this. Let me begin by saying I have never once committed any sort of fraud with Paypal and that claim is insanely preposterous. When I sent this knife to Michael it was exactly as I described it in my for sale thread. The centering was a little to the right, and there were some rub marks on the blasted finish on the outside of the pivot and some on the handle as well. There was no blade play at all, in fact I had recently received it back from Dave to the lock up adjusted (it was slightly sticky but was rectified by Dave). You seem to have left out a lot of information here, for one I suggested putting a drop of alchohol to degrease the lock because I had sharpied the tang like I do with most of my Ti framelocks out of habit. This does not require totally disassembly of the knife FYI. When I received the knife back from Michael, there were gouges in the metal of the pivot screw from where it was taken apart with a screwdriver that was obviously to small. There is a difference from rubs on the blasted finished of the screw and deformation and partial stripping of the screw from where you took it apart. The knife is also so off center that the blade is rubbing against the handle to the right. The lock up is so poor now that it literally RATTLES in the open position. The knife is not in the same condition as how I sent it to you, and never did I once claim you should disassemble it (lord knows how many IKBS balls are missing), cut and dry. You cannot modify something and then expect a refund, that is ridiculous. I have never had a single issue selling any other knife here on this forum or on any other for that matter.

Paypal will have to make the decision who was in the wrong one way or the other, and I am ok with not only being out the money from the sale and also paying to have Dave repair the knife if that's what is decided. But I would urge everyone caution on selling to Michael in the future.
 
Not even sure how to attack this cacophony of BS so I will break it into pieces. I would also urge Jared to come clean about his actions in this matter. Clearly, based on his post / sale thread / communication / paypal notes, the story continues to change in random ways.

Wow, where to begin with all of this. Let me begin by saying I have never once committed any sort of fraud with Paypal and that claim is insanely preposterous.

Paypal disagrees. You lost a case and then filed an appeal on the grounds that I broke your knife. Keep in mind, at this point, its no skin off my back. PP will foot the bill for your lies. As such, they believe (and I agree) that its fraud.

When I sent this knife to Michael it was exactly as I described it in my for sale thread. The centering was a little to the right, and there were some rub marks on the blasted finish on the outside of the pivot and some on the handle as well. There was no blade play at all, in fact I had recently received it back from Dave to the lock up adjusted (it was slightly sticky but was rectified by Dave).

Yea, that explains why I contacted you the minute I got the knife to tell you there was blade play. I am happy to post all of the PM's associated with this matter if necessary. I will have to dig up a video I made of the sheer amount of play in the knife.

You seem to have left out a lot of information here, for one I suggested putting a drop of alchohol to degrease the lock because I had sharpied the tang like I do with most of my Ti framelocks out of habit.

Read the post again. I expressly said that this took place and yes, I cleaned it with alcohol. That only partially remedied the problem. Again, happy to post the youtube vid if you like.

This does not require totally disassembly of the knife FYI. When I received the knife back from Michael, there were gouges in the metal of the pivot screw from where it was taken apart with a screwdriver that was obviously to small. There is a difference from rubs on the blasted finished of the screw and deformation and partial stripping of the screw from where you took it apart. The knife is also so off center that the blade is rubbing against the handle to the right. The lock up is so poor now that it literally RATTLES in the open position. The knife is not in the same condition as how I sent it to you, and never did I once claim you should disassemble it (lord knows how many IKBS balls are missing), cut and dry. You cannot modify something and then expect a refund, that is ridiculous. I have never had a single issue selling any other knife here on this forum or on any other for that matter.

Your own sales post listed the pivot as having "signs of wear". There is a reason why I quote the original post when I buy something.

The knife "literally rattled" when you sent it to me and, logically, rattles now that you got it back. Its not rocket science, you sent me a broken knife, refused to make it right, and you're now lying to cover your tracks.

Paypal will have to make the decision who was in the wrong one way or the other, and I am ok with not only being out the money from the sale and also paying to have Dave repair the knife if that's what is decided. But I would urge everyone caution on selling to Michael in the future.

Paypal already rendered a decision. You lost.

The purpose of the thread wasn't to get my money back (I already have it.) The purpose is simply to warn others in avoiding your non-sense moving forward. Happy to start supplying documentation on this if necessary.
 
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InsurgentNarhwal,

The fact that you took over a week to respond to this is curious. I will have no problem dealing with Mike, you sir, not so much.


Good luck
 
InsurgentNarhwal,

The fact that you took over a week to respond to this is curious. I will have no problem dealing with Mike, you sir, not so much.


Good luck

A week? He hasn't replied to me since mid-november
 
Hi Nike,

I know that...I meant that since it became public on this forum...


BEst
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Hmm do I trust the guy with 3 years and almost 3000 posts with 187/187 positive feedback or the guy with 1 year and only 137 posts with only 13 feedback? I think I would trust the one with his time clearly invested in this community and that's definitely not InsurgentNarhwal. I don't know either of you but I gotta say ooitzoo seems to be the stand up guy here, I don't see a shred of shady behavior on his end.
 
Hmm do I trust the guy with 3 years and almost 3000 posts with 187/187 positive feedback or the guy with 1 year and only 137 posts with only 13 feedback? I think I would trust the one with his time clearly invested in this community and that's definitely not InsurgentNarhwal. I don't know either of you but I gotta say ooitzoo seems to be the stand up guy here, I don't see a shred of shady behavior on his end.

This was my logic as well when I sold a strider to ooitzoo last week. All of the issues with the knife I sold were disclosed before hand and wouldn't you know, the transaction was smooth and simple. I wouldn't hesitate to deal with ooitzoo again.
 
This was my logic as well when I sold a strider to ooitzoo last week. All of the issues with the knife I sold were disclosed before hand and wouldn't you know, the transaction was smooth and simple. I wouldn't hesitate to deal with ooitzoo again.

Thanks man. The feeling is mutual.

I think its important to note that no one is saying you can't sell a used or even broken knife on the exchange. The simple point is to describe it openly and honestly (which is precisely what you did.) Unfortunately, Jared seems to think "I got it this way" and then radio silence are acceptable in lieu of honest dealing.
 
Personally I would air it all out. The PM's, video proof, pictures. Just to leave no doubts. But I'm a thorough and bitter type of person when it comes to people trying to deceive and play you like your an idiot. I applaud your very professional manner while dealing with this.
 
Personally I would air it all out. The PM's, video proof, pictures. Just to leave no doubts. But I'm a thorough and bitter type of person when it comes to people trying to deceive and play you like your an idiot. I applaud your very professional manner while dealing with this.

I appreciate that.

I think I am simply going to wait and see what Jared has to say for himself. I get the impression that the next time the story changes will be quite amusing.
 
Mike has nothing too hide..His reputation is STELLAR------
In our FAMILY we have here--
TRUST
INTEGRITY
and HONESTY
Go a long way
I have been HERE PROUDLY for 10 years now.
I have MANY MANY friends here
It intrigues me that deception and ones perception of a knife
isn't what it should BE---Simply to make a sale..
I allow questions. Allow and encourage more pictures if the person requests.
I also will make it right if the person isn't HAPPY..Its very evident MIKEs NOT happy and
truly the seller/trade should keep his/her word and make it right
A reputation here SPEAKS IN VOLUMES regarding ones INTEGRITY..
Avoiding a PM or email in my eyes .... Is some form of GUILT... Just my 2cents
Time to STEP up and act like an adult and make this right YOURE only hurting yourself
InsurgentNarhwal---Your CALL buddy--- Your call.
 
A couple of tricks were used that i have seen with other scammers. First, they ignore your actual complaint and deflect it to another issue. Then they ask you to do something to rectify it (oil it, tighten pivot, take it apart, etc.). This enables them to place the blame on you for doing something wrong with it. Some con man book must list these techniques.

Too late now for the buyer, but for others this is a lesson: if you are unhappy (knife does not match description), press for immediate return. Do not let the seller take control by directing you to do things to the knife. I learned this the hard way myself.

Seller is using the exact same technique at post#22.
 
Firstly, just to give an update. Looks like Paypal just closed the case a second time. They rules against Jared...for the SECOND TIME. Funny how that one works out.

I guess we will wait a while longer for this liar to step up and make another post...

Mike has nothing too hide..His reputation is STELLAR------
In our FAMILY we have here--
TRUST
INTEGRITY
and HONESTY
Go a long way
I have been HERE PROUDLY for 10 years now.
I have MANY MANY friends here
It intrigues me that deception and ones perception of a knife
isn't what it should BE---Simply to make a sale..
I allow questions. Allow and encourage more pictures if the person requests.
I also will make it right if the person isn't HAPPY..Its very evident MIKEs NOT happy and
truly the seller/trade should keep his/her word and make it right
A reputation here SPEAKS IN VOLUMES regarding ones INTEGRITY..
Avoiding a PM or email in my eyes .... Is some form of GUILT... Just my 2cents
Time to STEP up and act like an adult and make this right YOURE only hurting yourself
InsurgentNarhwal---Your CALL buddy--- Your call.

Thanks man. I appreciate the kind words and, of course, your friendship.
 
Just checking in....yep, no response. Giving it 3 more days and then will post Jared's personal details.
 
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