iPad or Galaxy Tab?

iPad or Galaxy Tab?

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  • Galaxy Tab 10.1

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  • Other tablet (Google Nexus 7, Asus, New Kindle Fire HD, ect.)

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In my household we have an original iPad, an iPad 3, a Motorola Xoom, and a Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7. Of all those I prefer the 7.7. In fact, I'm using it right now. While it's true that Android is generally less stable than iOS, I really like the smaller, lighter form factor of the 7.7. It's easier to type on, more portable, and it's much more customizable than the iPad.

It should be noted that Apple is rumored to be releasing an mini iPad with a 7.85 inch screen next month. If you really prefer iOS over Android, you might want to take a look at it. Finally, Windows 8 tablets will be coming out in November, and their smartcovers will have built-in physical keyboards for a laptop-like experience.
 
I have a Galaxy Tab 8.9 and a Galaxy s3. Both work very well and i couldnt be happier. I dont have a problem with apple but my tablet is android i wanted my phone to be also and since they are both running ICS its a snap to switch between the two. Plus being able to use Kies is cool since i can transfer stuff between the phone and tablet without a computer or cord. And after a few days of playing around with ICS my tablet is very snappy, the ability to disable apps i dont use or adjustng the window animation scale and the transition animation speeds have made both my tablet and phone super snappy and responsive with no glitching or crashing.

However the galaxy tab's dont have an sd slot but a 30pin adaptor lets me use one(the 2nd gens might have changed). Also the current ICS doesnt support flash, you can still download flash from adobe but not through the play store.
 
I refuse to buy apple products but sometimes theres no way around it, all I have is an ipod nano!!
 
I tried the 7" tabs and they were not big enough for me. I ended up with the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and really like it. I got it after being in the hospital and going into computer withdrawal. You just can't use a laptop in a hospital bed when you are covered in tubes and cables.
 
I bought a Kindle Fire last year and have been mostly happy with it. The qualifier for that is that I use it mostly for amazon content (ebooks, mp3s and streaming video). The have done a great job integrating the device and there services.

Once you step out of that area though, it stats to show its shortcomings. The included browser is horrible, the keyboard and auto correcting are vastly inferior to iOS and despite having an Android based OS it will not support many Android apps.

I recently pre-ordered the new 8.9 inch Kindle Fire HD for the larger screen and other improvements but I've been having second thoughts about getting an iPad 3 instead.
 
I haven't seen the Note 10.1 yet, so I don't have an opinion. I'll go look it up on Samsung's website.

I'm hoping as we get closer to Christmas that we'll see some more options.

I appreciate all of the comments. Please keep them coming.
 
Mike, you haven't commented on how you're going to use your tablet - whichever one you get - with the internet. Do you have a smartphone? What wireless company are you with? What's your data plan?

If you already have a smartphone with a data plan, that's all you'll really need. Tethering, wireless hotspot, and sharing plans are for n00bs. Well, a sharing plan might be the way to go if you have multiple people (family) on the same plan. Tethering/hotspot plans are typically $20 a month for 2gb of data, regardless of your provider, even if you have an "unlimited" contract (like Sprint or TMobile). But you don't need this. By FCC regulations, any bandwidth you lease from a provider is yours to do with as you wish. If you have a smartphone with data, tethering/hotspot "services" are merely that. They give you access to an app that allows you to tether your device, or use it as a mobile hotspot, for a monthly fee. But since the bandwidth is already yours, you're not paying for that, you're only paying for the "service". And if you have an unlimited plan, it's still unlimited because you're not using their extra "service".

Adding another device to your plan makes it a "shared" plan, and costs even more. A LOT more. For the same amount of data (or less, or WAY more for more).

There's a multitude of apps out there that do the same thing, for a one-time purchase. And most costs are less than you'd pay per month through your provider. Sometimes downloading/purchasing these apps are blocked through your provider for download via Google Play, but that doesn't mean a damn thing. You can always "side load" the app (installing from a downloaded file). There is absolutely nothing illegal or unethical about doing this. Remember, the bandwidth you're leasing from your provider is yours to do with as you wish.

PdaNet/FoxFi is probably the most popular way to do this, but there are other programs as well. I've tried it, and it works just fine. It's also great if you travel, whether you have a tablet, laptop, or whatever. As long as you have data with your cell phone, you don't need to find an internet hotspot, because you already have one in your pocket.

Regardless of what tablet you end up with, doing what I suggested can not only save you on a wi-fi only model vs a 4G model (if that option exists), it can save you hundreds of dollars over the length of any contract you might have. $20/month x 2 years (typical contract) = $480. Even more if you have a "shared" plan.

For example, I have Verizon, a Droid RAZR MAXX, with 4gb/month data. Minimal talk time, and 1000 texts. I pay about $90/month (after fees/taxes). If I bought a Galaxy Tab 10.1 with 32gb of storage, they'd charge me $629 for the device, $35 for the activation fee, and my monthly bill would jump to about $130/month, for the same 4gb of data (although, I would get unlimited talk and text...not that I'd use it). Minus the cost of the device and activation, that's still nearly $500/year.

Or I could buy a Google Nexus 7 16gb for $250, pay $10-20 for a licensed, full access version of a mobile hotspot/tethering app like PdaNet/FoxFi, and save myself a ton of money, both initially, and over time. If you need more storage space than that, then you shouldn't be putting the Lord of the Rings trilogy on your tablet, or putting that much music or porn on it. Or maybe you're a big gamer, I don't know. But if you do need more space than a device offers, there's always dropbox style accounts/programs (google gives you a few free already), clouds, or programs that let you access your home computer remotely. "Office" type files typically aren't that big, and shouldn't put a very big dent in your data allowance, assuming you don't have "unlimited" data and that point is moot. Keep in mind that the providers that offer "unlimited" cell phone plans still limit their tethering/wifi plans to 2gb/month or so.

To summarize, if you have a smartphone with a data plan, you can save a TON of money by utilizing a certain app or two, because they're a one-time purchase with no monthly fee, and don't require additional service fees. Remember, the FCC says that the bandwidth you lease is yours to do with as you wish. For obvious reasons, wireless providers do not pre-load these programs (or even block them, but there's ways around that), and try to make you use their own services. But you don't have to, and you're a dupe if you do. To be fair, maybe there is a convince of having 4G on your tablet without having to connect to your phone as a wifi hotspot, and there also might be the issue of battery life of your phone by using it as a hotspot, but IMO that's a small hassle in comparison to saving hundreds of dollars per year
 
I just realized that you don't even need PdaNet to use FoxFi as a mobile hotspot. PdaNet provides physical tethering (which is nice to have with a laptop, since your phone will charge off of it). FoxFi makes your Android phone a mobile hotspot, either via wifi or Bluetooth, and it's absolutely free (no ads). And you don't have to "root" your phone, voiding the warranty, or anything like that.

So out of curiosity, I did some number crunching. My previous figure wasn't quite right, since having a "share everything" plan only adds $20, plus $10 for each tablet, and since everything is shared, you don't need their mobile hotspot service (another $20).

Let's say I wanted to add a 16gb iPad 3 (cellular + wifi) to my 4gb/mo data Verizon plan. $630 for the iPad, plus $120/mo (plus tax and fees). Or, I can get a wi-fi only model off Amazon for $515, and use my phone as a mobie hotspot and save $20/month by using FoxFi for free.

Similarly, if I was with AT&T, the iPad 3 (cell + wifi) would be $630, plus $120/month for 4gb shared data. A plan similar to mine would be $90/mo for 3gb of data, or $110/mo for mobile hotspot (5gb/mo).

Either way, I'd save $30/month by using FoxFi and my existing smartphone's data plan. Plus I'd save $115 by going with the wi-fi only iPad instead of a cellular + wi-fi. The $115 difference is the same between the 32 and the 64gb models as well.

T-Mobile only offers the Galaxy Tab 7.0 with 4G. I can't find a "share" plan, so adding the device to an existing plan would be quite expensive. If you wanted to use their mobile hotspot plan, it'd be $95/mo for 5gb of hotspot useage. Or, just $90/mo for unlimited data and use FoxFi for free wireless hotspot useage.

Sprint only offers one tablet that operates on cellular, and it's a hunk of crap and only 3G, so I won't even bother figuring out what that plan would cost. Sprint's everything unlimited plan is $80. If you're dumb enough to go with their mobile hotspot plans, it's another $20/mo for 2gb or $50 for 6gb. No wonder Sprint blocks downloading FoxFi from Google Play. But it's easy enough to sideload it off of their website, so no worries there. It's too bad Sprint sucks in most places, because it'd be the cheapest way to go, and if you were lucky enough to live in a place where you got good data speeds, you could use it instead of your home internet because it's unlimited.

Using a 4G tablet has its advantages, of course. If you don't have a smartphone, but want internet on your tablet away from hotspots, having one with a data plan is a requirement. If you have a smartphone, using it as a mobile hotspot will obviously drain its battery down, as well as your tablet's. Also, proximity is very important when using your phone as a mobile hotspot. As you can imagine, a cell phone isn't going to have the same signal strength as a large router with antennas and plugged into a wall. But assuming your phone is in your pocket, and you're holding your tablet, your connection should be just fine. I can connect my computer several feet away from my phone get the same results from speedtest.net. Just don't expect it to go through walls or across large distances like a real wi-fi router will.
 
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I'm a U.S. Cellular customer, and I have the Samsung Galaxy S III.

I have hot spot capability, and I already use it with my laptop and my Fire, so I'm good to go there. Doesn't cost me any extra. I do have Easy Tethering Plus app that I used on my old HTC Desire, until the software update included the hot spot ability. I'll mainly be using it on secure Wi-Fi in various locations.

What I absolutely need to do with the tablet is access business apps, and secure websites. I have dropbox, and it works fine. I would continue using the Fire if I could access the secure websites with it. The issue is getting logged in, and having the browser compatible with the secure sites. There is one in particular that I need, that I cannot access with my phone, and another that won't allow me to open the documents, no matter what I do. The Galaxy S III was suposed to be able to replace having to use my laptop or a tablet in the field, but that didn't work.

I think I'd like the Nexus 7, or the Galaxy Tab 7", but I need to try one out before I pull the trigger.
 
The issue is getting logged in, and having the browser compatible with the secure sites. There is one in particular that I need, that I cannot access with my phone, and another that won't allow me to open the documents, no matter what I do. The Galaxy S III was suposed to be able to replace having to use my laptop or a tablet in the field, but that didn't work.

If you can't do those things on your S3, I'm not sure it'd be any different on a tablet. Regarding the secure site, it could be that it denies access to mobile devices. For example, the website might detect what browser you're using, or that it's requesting a mobile version of the website. What browser do you use on your S3? I use Dolphin, for which there's a nifty plug-in you can get that toggles between desktop and mobile versions of websites. You could try logging into that secure site in desktop mode. Worth a shot, anyway. And you could always try Chrome or Firefox as well, if you haven't already. Regarding the files you can't open, are they on a website that denies you access, or is it just that your phone can't recognize or open the file type?
 
I was going to recommend trying a different browser, too. Dolphin is my favorite for most things, but I also use Firefox if I have compatability issues with a website.
 
I had an iPad but found out the only thing it was really good for was showing people I could afford and iPad...

That said, if I was going to purchase another tablet (I, too, have a Kindle Fire) it would be an iPad; there are many more apps and it has become much more usable. Just remember - the tablet isn't a replacement for your computer (yet); if you expect it to do everything you can do on your laptop, you'll be disappointed everytime.
 
I dunno if im too late, but if you can, wait till November. Rumor is Apple is refreshing its Ipad line in October. Also the Microsoft Surface is coming out which will be a compelling option, imo.

Amazon sent me a kindle Fire HD to review, ive played with a samsung (the 10.1), the google nexus, and had an ipad 2.

I like the OS of the google nexus the best; its snappy and i prefer the slightly more open eco system.

I think however when it comes time to buy a tablet for work, I will get either an ipad or MS Surface.

The kindle fire is great for entertainment but sucks at productivity. I also fine a 7" screen way too small for actual work documents... emails, resumes etc. The Kindle 8.9" might be good, but there OS is really geared towards delivering entertainment content, not really for business use. Email on it sucked. (I have since given that unit away.)

The ipad on the other had had enough real estate to make for an easy time with documents, presentations, and productivity. Say what you will, but the closed ecosystem guarantees a consistently good experience. I've had a couple exchange issues with both my old iPad and my MBP in Windows server environment, but its mostly been an easy transition.

The nexus would be great if it came in a 9" option, imo, as its just not the right ratios for documents in a work environment.

I have a friend who bought a refurbished 2 year old mac air from apple for $700ish instead of a tablet and has been very happy with that decision.

I'm looking forward to seeing if they come out with an ipad mini, and seeing how the Microsoft stacks up to it. Whatever you go with, id get a blutooth keybord as they make inputting very very convenient.
 
I'm using the browser that came installed on my S III. Is there an app that I can get with another browser on it?

I'm fully authorized on the secure websites; I can access them on my laptop, desktop, and any other PC that has web capabiity. The documents require me to login with my credentials to access, but the pop up box for that doesn't 'pop up' on my phone. I gave up trying on the Kindle.

I haven't bought anything yet; I'm going to wait until Christmas time. I bought my laptop last Thanksgiving day, at a pre Black Friday sale, and I got a better deal than if I went and stood in line the next morning. The laptop works just fine, but it is a pain to lug around. Maybe I'll look at an Ultrabook if I can't get a tablet to work.
 
I first went over to the Mac side in the mid 2000s when I purchased a nice G5 desktop computer. A couple of years later I made the smartphone transition from HTC to the iPhone (currently on the iPhone 4). On the whole, I've been extremely pleased with these devices. Despite seeing the utility in a mobile platform with a larger screen, I was personally able to resist the urge to jump onboard the pad craze for a while mainly because of the infamous incompatibility between Apple mobile devices and Flash, and because a couple family members already owned iPads which I could get access to as required.

I revisited the issue specifically when the Galaxy Tab 10.1 was released. Reviews were generally favorable and, on paper, it seemed to stack up pretty well against the iPad. The screen resolution was actually a hair better than the iPad model which was its competition at the time and the Flash capability promised to put an end to the near constant frustration of not being able to view video content at my favorite news, sports and entertainment websites on my iPhone. So, I pulled the trigger. Now, going on my second year of Galaxy Tab ownership, I remain regretful that I didn't hold out for an iPad. The Tab is by no means an abject failure. The physical construction is good, Flash functions as advertised for the most part, it works well as a device that doesn't need to be synced with a PC and download speeds are fast.

That said, depending on your primary uses, the frustrations you will continuously encounter might drive you to distraction. Here are a few of my gripes.

- My unit, along with many others, shipped with bad firmware. As a result, certain popular apps simply would not run. It took Samsung a while to come up with an update which, at first, caused some owners more problems than it solved.

- It was a near physical impossibility to rent or buy a movie to download to the device. No Android market movies for sale, no Netflix compatibility, no iTunes compatibility, nothing. I honestly have no idea if this situation has improved as I gave up trying a long time ago.

- Touchscreen refinement is lacking as compared to the iPad. Scrolling isn't as smooth and can be glitchy, zooming and expanding needs work, the screen can be too sensitive to light brushes and often times tapping on links does nothing - I have to hold my finger on the link until a dialog box pops up asking me if I want to open the link.

- Android market app compatibility is a bit of a crapshoot due to all the different variations of Android itself. This issue also adversely affects the quality of the apps' user reviews as much bandwidth is wasted determining which versions of Android run the app satisfactorily.

- As you might surmise, I spend a good deal of time on Internet forums such as BFC. I abhor the stripped down mobile skin versions of these sites. I want the full experience - avatars, member info, etc., etc. Attempting to interact with sites like BFC on a Galaxy Tab is all but impossible. If you're content to just read other people's posts then things aren't too bad. But God help you if you decide you want to add your own reply. The litany of things that can go wrong in this scenario - from missing cursors, to no reply boxes, to no backspace or delete, to a diabolical 'cut and paste' interface - is too expansive to list here.
 
It's really not close. The iPad is in a class of its own, and everyone else is fighting for the scraps. You get the richest media stores, the biggest app selection (free and paid) around, and all first-class devs go iPad first and everything else second. Until very recently, I made my living playing with and writing about the iPad/iPhone market, and I would never consider any other tablet. Too many horror stories, and I have lots of personal experience with the competition (Android 1-4, Windows Phone 7/7.5, webOS, Meego, Symbian, Palm, BlackBerry, etc.). If you care to look over some of my old articles to help you out, feel free to visit my writer's page here.

Here's a first impressions review of the newest iPad I did back in March.

Hope this helps!

P.S. If you want an iPad, and can afford one now, get one ASAP. Don't wait for Black Friday or Christmas (though there is a rumor that a 7.85-inch iPad mini might hit over the holidays). Apple doesn't discount its wares more than $15-20 for Black Friday, so it's not worth the wait. And if you get one over Christmas, just remember that the new iPad (4th generation) will arrive in March. No fun getting stuff at the end of the product cycle (although your iPad will be fast and up-to-date OS-wise for roughly 2-3 years after purchase, whenever that is).
 
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I'm using the browser that came installed on my S III. Is there an app that I can get with another browser on it?

As I mentioned above, there are several browsers for Android devices. Most have a "stock" browser (although with 4.1 Jellybean, the "stock" browser is Google Chrome), but you're not limited to just that. You can get Google Chrome, Firefox, Opera, Dolphin, and others. Chrome and Firefox have nifty sync options to match your computer browser info (bookmarks, searches, etc) to your Android device. Dolphin is Android-only, so you don't have that option, but IMO it's the most refined and intuitive of the big 3 (Chrome, FF, and Dolphin), which is probably the reason it's the most popular 3rd party broswer for Android devices. Dolphin supports both Flash and HTML5. If you don't have Flash installed, do a search on google on how to sideload Flash onto your phone/tablet, since it's no longer available from the Play Store. It's possible that the pop-up box that doesn't pop up on your phone uses Flash, but you don't have it installed or aren't using a compatible browser

Regardless of what browser you use, there's always a way to toggle between the "mobile" and "desktop" versions of the website, even without looking for a link on the page itself. The stock ICS browser, Chrome, and Firefox have a box you can check (or uncheck) simply by bringing up the menu (the button on your phone in the lower left hand corner). Dolphin has an add-on you can download that toggles between mobile and desktop, and since it remembers your choice, it works much better than FF or Chrome does.

And yes, you should absolutely try all of the browser options available. Not doing so is like taking a guided tour of a museum that only hits the popular exhibits, or of a natural park that doesn't let you explore on your own. Play around with them and then keep the one you like. Maybe one will even let you log into that secure site like you need to. Chrome, Dolphin, and FF are all free, so there's no reason not to try them.

- As you might surmise, I spend a good deal of time on Internet forums such as BFC. I abhor the stripped down mobile skin versions of these sites. I want the full experience - avatars, member info, etc., etc. Attempting to interact with sites like BFC on a Galaxy Tab is all but impossible. If you're content to just read other people's posts then things aren't too bad. But God help you if you decide you want to add your own reply. The litany of things that can go wrong in this scenario - from missing cursors, to no reply boxes, to no backspace or delete, to a diabolical 'cut and paste' interface - is too expansive to list here.

You're doing it wrong.

Many (most?) websites these days have mobile versions, and as you said, they're usually stripped down for fast loading, and skinned for easy reading. But you're not required to only use the mobile version just because you're on a mobile device. I too prefer the full "desktop" version of websites, even if I'm looking at a 4.3" cell phone screen. All you need to do is toggle/switch to the desktop version (as I explained above), and everything will look just like it does on your computer (just smaller). Is it as easy? No...but it's not going to be. That's just the rub of doing it on a phone/tablet (no 2 button mouse, no drag & drop, etc). But is it way more functional than trying to do it on the mobile version? Heck yes. There's also Tapatalk, which a lot of people use for internet forum use, but I don't care much for it, as it doesn't give the full "experience" you get from a computer or viewing it on a mobile device in desktop mode (plus it's not universally compatible with every forum software).

I obviously prefer to post from my computer, but I've posted plenty of times from my Android phone(s) while at work. I just have to be careful with the predictive texting of my keyboard app, as well as the auto correct, since company names and jargon often get changed to other things that make no sense.
 
That said, depending on your primary uses, the frustrations you will continuously encounter might drive you to distraction. Here are a few of my gripes.

- My unit, along with many others, shipped with bad firmware. As a result, certain popular apps simply would not run. It took Samsung a while to come up with an update which, at first, caused some owners more problems than it solved.

Unfortunately, this can be a problem with certain devices and certain apps. There's games that I'd love to play on my Razr Maxx that for some reason aren't compatible. This is one area where IOS has an advantage over Android. Yet you can hardly claim that Apple has had zero problems when they have rolled out new devices. Remember the iPhone 4 antenna problem? And new iPhone 5 users are complaining that their apps are reverse-letterboxed (like watching a 4x3 movie on a 16x9 TV screen) because the apps haven't been reworked to fit the elongated screen on the iPhone 5. Yet on Android devices, because they come in different sizes/ratios, developers know to build different resolutions compatibilities into their software. Android isn't perfect, but neither is IOS.

- It was a near physical impossibility to rent or buy a movie to download to the device. No Android market movies for sale, no Netflix compatibility, no iTunes compatibility, nothing. I honestly have no idea if this situation has improved as I gave up trying a long time ago.

Well, you're not going to find iTunes compatibility with your Android, just as you're not find the reverse to be true. Netflix has worked with Android for quite a while. I don't use it myself, but I know many that do. Out of curiosity, I did a quick search for movies available to rent from Google Play. I looked for a new movie (Hunger Games), a classic movie (Casablanca), and an obscure movie (Dead Man), and a foreign movie (Hard Boiled). The New and classic ones were available for rent. The same is true if you use the Amazon app, which works pretty much the same way.

- Android market app compatibility is a bit of a crapshoot due to all the different variations of Android itself. This issue also adversely affects the quality of the apps' user reviews as much bandwidth is wasted determining which versions of Android run the app satisfactorily.

This is both a negative and not a negative. It's not just the version of Android, but also the device itself that might have compatibility issues. However, some people might argue that this is because of the "openness" that comes from Android being open source. IOS apps work with IOS devices because they're restricted and restrained by the hardware, where as Android developers have the freedom to go create without restriction. This means that IOS developers might not be able to create what they want because they simply can't on Apple devices. Again, it depends on how you look at it. I don't really have an opinion myself; I can see the argument for both sides. It also depends on if you're OK with stock functionality, or are the type that Jailbreaks/Roots their device.
 
I'm going to download Dolphin on my phone and give it a shot.

I also went in to my phone settings to find the checkbox toturn off mobile view for webpages, but I can't find it! I know I've seen it, and checked the box, but I'll be darned if I can find it again!
 
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