Is spyderco behind now?

And finally,
If you think i am bashing spyderco, I am not. I like spyderco and sometimes i get its philosophy.

I have this to say to Sal:

Old man, Sir good luck

employ some people to style the knives. Not design them, but style them.
employ someone to work only full time on the website. Even the photos of knives on the website are bad IMO.

Put some texture maybe some color into the knives.


This sounds patronizing but its not
 
znode said:
Now let's put extrapolation, speculation, and armchair economist aside, please. Do you have any... facts pertaining to the matter? ?

NO :D

I wish the world worked as I think it does. Life would be a lot easier.
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me 2:D



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This sounds patronizing but its not
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I'd say you're the one "Working in the dark". You haven't a clue about most of the things you are talking about yet you just chat away.

I'm sure we could all just learn from the things you've done with your knife company in the last year. Show us the reason you're a proven commodity, in a few Halls of fame, and considered a legend in the knife industry.

Show us the gold, and explain why we shouldn't just think you're another opinionated yutz with a computer.

I have this to say to Sal:

Old man, Sir good luck
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Uh, yeah new guy. Good way to begin your time here. Joe
 
IMO Spyderco is only getting better with time. In almost any "recommend a folder" thread posted here various Spyderco models are among the most highly recommended blades. They're simple, reliable, and effective. I don't personally own one yet but my brother brought his new Calypso down on a weekend trip here and its a scary-sharp blade with a comfortable grip and good overall feel. I'll be picking one up soon, thats for sure.
 
jlfletcher83 said:
I am proud to buy from an american company. I will say I will not buy a Byrd because they are made in China.
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Actually, alot of Spyderco's knives are made outside of US borders, not just their Byrd line.

Anyway, I may not agree with thedawg but he is entitled to his opinions just as much as we are and I don't think we should resort to calling him names no matter how much you disagree with him. After all, this is a forum where different thoughts and views can be expressed isn't it?
 
I think that Spyderco is one of ,if not the most innovative knife companies out there.Sal is a class act and runs his company in an ethical way that brings credit to the knife industry as a whole and to those of us who carry a working knife daily.
I just got an Endura4 last week, and QC continues to be spot-on as far as I can see.
Mr. Dawg I believe that you are not looking close enough, or you don't understand what you're looking at.
 
thedawg said:
employ some people to style the knives. Not design them, but style them. employ someone to work only full time on the website.
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I once again have to disagree with you. Without a good design, a knife's functionality is doomed to fail. You can have the best-styled knife in the world, but if its design is flawed, then the best-styled knife that you have is no longer a knife but rather a stylish POS that only looks pretty.

"website"... It's "Web site". It's not about a company's Web site that determines the quality of their products. It's about a company's products and customer service that either makes or breaks a company's success.
 
There are a lot of knives out there that I don't care for because I am old fashion but the companies are still doing business just fine I have to say that Spyderco seems to have a very good and expanding selection I know I can't wait to see the Bushcraft knife, also I hope some one will not correct my spelling as I am very sensitive about things like that (CRS you know).
 
Spyderco is the only U.S. knife company that I know of that's listened to the needs of British knife enthusiasts and designed a top quality product that abides with our draconian carry laws, the UK Pen Knife.
My Delica is about 18 years old and is still as good as the day I bought it.
One of my favourite companies without a doubt.
 
I don't think so. I think other companies are doing many things right these days, and giving them good competition, but when it comes down to the knives I think Spyderco has the best designs. They're simple, reliable and effective at what they're meant to do. They're also the most comfortable. My top 5 knives as far as ergos are concerned would be a list of all Spydercos. They also ship with the sharpest production knife edges I'm aware of, and generally come ground at a more acute angle than you'll find in the competition.
 
Sal doesn't do it for the $$$ he does it for the knife user and also being a knife lover. The minute you do it for the $$$ you cut corners and then you are Cold Steel.
 
Hey folks,
All I know is that I a delica was my very first knife to buy and carry over 15 years ago and had I not broken the tip prying into my college dorm room 7 years ago, it would still be alive.
I also know that I bought a circa same time delica from a guy off here and it still locks up like a vault. I am sending it to Spyderco to be sharpened and plan on carrying it EDC.
They make a damn good knife and they provide damn good customer service and their CEO talks to US.

Those are ingredients for a great company. Anyone seen Les from BM around?

Take care all,
Brett
 
i'm NOT impressed with their customer service one bit.... I have a folding Lum Tanto that the liner lock "walks" ALL THE WAY across the tang of the blade... it fails every "spine whack test".. I'm not too scared to use it, I just don't trust it anymore than a slipjoint... I emailed them and got a response something like :
that knife was made in Japan and is no longer in production, we no longer have parts to repair it...
Sal probably remembers my email cussing his ass out after recieving such crappy customer service.... I've since sold off my 40+ spydercos and only have about 5 of them left... (including the Lum "accident waiting to happen")
I've had enough of their mediocre knives and goody two-shoes attitude....
 
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i'm NOT impressed with their customer service one bit....
I've had enough of their mediocre knives and goody two-shoes attitude....
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Well, I think you're in the minority as far as the customer service goes, but nobody's perfect. I imagine you'll find the same response from most companies when it comes to long-discontinued products, unfortunate as it may be. At the end of the day, Spyderco is a small company and the cost of maintaining a full stock of all models going back 30 or so years would be too much to bear. Sucks, but that's life. As far as "cussing Sal's ass..." goes, that just shows lack of class and maturity on your behalf.
 
I tend to disagree with the original poster's opinion on everything he stated. I look at the other companies mentioned (with exception to Kershaw) and see the same ol' thing over and over again. I think Kershaw is trying to challenge Spyderco in innovation, but they aren't there yet. Without beating a long-dead horse, I'll just say imitating another company's designs isn't innovation, regardless of what your spin on it is. I can't speak of websites I've never been to(Cold Steel), but the BM and Kershaw certainly don't seem any better off(I couldn't find any info on the ZDP Mini Cyclone on Kershaw's site, while BM still had products discontinued for up to 2 years on its page last time I checked).
I think it comes down to opinion, plain and simple.
 
flipe8 said:
Well, I think you're in the minority as far as the customer service goes, but nobody's perfect. I imagine you'll find the same response from most companies when it comes to long-discontinued products, unfortunate as it may be. At the end of the day, Spyderco is a small company and the cost of maintaining a full stock of all models going back 30 or so years would be too much to bear. Sucks, but that's life. As far as "cussing Sal's ass..." goes, that just shows lack of class and maturity on your behalf.
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understandable... but I only gave him a good cussing when it became evident that that their touted "great customer service" was not so great. meh, I don't really care anymore, like I said, I'm done with them... but you are right, nobody's perfect...
 
I don't think Spyderco is behind, but one thing I agree with thedawg is the poor website. It really piss me off when I learned that they didn't put the newest product line on net. I'd say that my first impression with Spyderco isn't very good. How can those dealers have so many knives that even don't exist on the official website? Before I dig deep enough in BF and found the truth, I didn't even think about buying a spydie once.

It's not 80s or 90s anymore, we do business online, we share our interests through web, we all highly depend on this infrastructure -- internet, otherwise we wouldn't have an chance to talk about this in this forum. A bad website is like an ugly business card or an outdated catalog in old days. It really ruin the first impression of the company.

Maybe other knife companies have the same problem as well, but I don't know because Spyderco is the only one I care. Then, this is a good chance to go ahead by updating the website more often, putting discontinued knives in archive instead of removing them.

Sal, if you have a chance to read this thread, I'm not begging you for a decent web 2.0 stuff. Instead, I love the simple structure of current design. Just make it up-to-date, Please! Plus you already have a perfect official forum, things would be perfect then.

(Sorry for my bad English.)

Cheers
Carlos
 
I carried a spyderco delica clipit first generation for over 12 years as my EDC. The tip finally broke on it, just a bit but enough to make me go look for a new knife. I went to look at the new delicas to replace it and I hated the clip ( mine was molded into the knife and was sturdy, the new ones have screws and light weight metal that will surely bend) and the handle design ( mine was simple and the new one was too busy).

I went with a Benchmade axis lock instead and while I miss the light weight of the delica, I love the benchmade.

They shouldn't have changed that design, it was the best design and now it is just like the rest.
 
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