Is spyderco behind now?

I have had three dealings with Spyderco customer service in the last fifteen years. All were exceptional. Every time I was sent parts at no cost, including no shipping, and I live in Canada. As far as I am concerned their customer service is second to none.
 
Agreed keith. My dealings with Spyderco CS has never been due to a fault in the knife but rather MY faults. Losing screws, clips, etc. I have NEVER been charged for a single thing, including shipping.
It really makes me wonder about a person who has ONE freaking dealing with a great company and thinks it entitles them to spew forth vitriol. Was the dealing negative? Hard to tell. If he treated them in 'person' like he treats them in writing, it's no wonder he walked away feeling like someone pissed in his cheerios. Folks like that live with piss in their cheerios and it's usually their own.

Just my opinion,
Brett
 
My Mini-Manix is stamped with Golden, Colorado, U.S.A, Earth.

That's shows they're always thinking ahead :D

HAHA i agree. I absolutely love the EARTH stamp, and wish it was on all the spydercos. I think they are thinking ahead to when we will be carrying our knives in space, and if the happen to get lost and found, they will hopefully send it back to earth.:thumbup::thumbup: TWO THUMBS FOR THE EARTH STAMP. GREAT IDEA SPYDERCO!!:D
 
My answer - No.

Right now there is nothing out by Spyderco that is really exciting me. I'm waiting to see the Spyderco Bushcraft, and Spyderco/Viele Phoenix.

Now does that mean Spyderco is not putting out any good new product? No, it is more of a personal preference issue.

As for the poster that sold all his Spyderco knives after a bad CS issue, well that's his right. I had a bad customer run-in with Cold Steel and I've sold all my Cold Steel products, excepting the Shovel, and have no plans to buy anything from them ever.
 
I don't think that a company has to constantly dish out lots of new modern designs to be innovative, If it isn't broke don't fix it. Good thing that Mr. Glesser is not taking much offense about this thread...
 
I'm a big Spyderco fan, but I think that it is Spyderco's trademark thumbhole is holding them back. The thumbhole is great for lock-backs, which why the Endura, Police Model, Manix are such great knives.

In my opinion the axis-lock is better than a lock-back. A lock-back lock has a singular purpose, which is to lock the blade in the open position. The Axis-lock allows for one hand opening and closing. It also holds the blade in the handle, where as a lock-back's blade is held in place with tension at the pivot point. Another shot to thumb-hole is fact that it can't be paired with an assisted-opening mechanism, because your thumb must remain in contact with the blade throughout the opening of the knife.
 
Hi Dawg,

I will readily agree that Kershaw, Benchmade and Cold Steel make far more money than Spyderco. We are smaller company, but we also tend to spend money on "other" areas.

Cold Steel may make more money Sal, but you make a lot of knives much better than they do.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
i dont understand what spyderco is supposed to be behind?

behind a tree maybe?

the brains behind the jfk conspiracy was really a black opps hit by spyderco? or was that strider i get confused

spyderco is behind the faked man on the moon stuff?

spyderco is behind the iron curtain now selling knives?

closest i can come is a rock and a hard place if sal doesnt release the wilkins knife real soon and send me my free one
 
I have carried numerous Spyderco knives since 1983. They have always been of the highest quality and usually the most innovative designs. The hole, the clip, a multitude of durable locks, new tough steels and alloys etc, etc...

They are definitely not behind anyone, and as long as they listen to their customers they never will be. Spyderco has designs in its lineup from its customers and forum members. What other company would return a knife to production solely on the posts and support of a handfull of enthusiastic knife knuts on their forum. (JDSpydo and the Superhawk crew.)

Sal and his family (to include the Spyder crew) take exceptional care of their end users. I have had knives repaired and replaced, parts shipped, and advice given by them in the past 20+ years. I cannot fault any of it.

As to tummler, you cannot honestly expect a company to keep every part in stock for every knife they have ever produced, You also do not state whether you purchased your Lum from Spyderco, a dealer or the graymarket (forums or fleabay) used or new. And for your general info spinewacking is a destructive test, if a liner lock is properly used and not worn out by wrist flicking or zip-tie waving or "spine wacking" (as your sounds) it does not just quit working properly.

'Nuff said.
BK6
 
Spyderco is also one of those brands where they offer a folding product for everything and that is commendable.
 
Have you thought about whether posts like this add anything valuable to this thread or to any discussion forum?

Says the guy who has never added anything at all, much less "valuable". :rolleyes:

Spyderco is good. The fact that they don't keep parts and tooling around for discontinued models decades later doesn't mar their customer service. Only a fool would expect them to do that. Call up any car company and ask for a new 1980's model. . . Then cuss them out when they say they don't have the ability to make one.
 
In my opinion the axis-lock is better than a lock-back. A lock-back lock has a singular purpose, which is to lock the blade in the open position. The Axis-lock allows for one hand opening and closing.

Having handled two axis-lock knives with broken omega springs I personally much prefer the good ol' lockback. And yes, I can close my Spyderco lockbacks with one hand.

Hans
 
As a fan of knives in general I would like to say that I don't feel that Spyderco has fallen behind of is going to in the future. Since getting into this hobby a few years ago Spyderco has never disappointed me with new releases and updates of older models, keeping them viable for longer.
 
Hey Hans,
I agree that the lock back is a great mechanism. I prefer it and have no problems closing it with one hand. As a matter of fact, I love this method as I can do it with both hands.

Best,
Brett
 
Success in business is not always clawing for the biggest, the most, the fastest, or the tallest. Sometimes success is measured by the best and the most appreciated with a loyal following that sustains the business and those who depend on it. Reputations that allow a business continued success during rough times are made by consistency. Remember how many employees and dealers benefit from the steady hands at the helm of Spyderco.

Businesses with a name and a person attached who take a personal interest in the products are special now more than ever. Spyderco is one of those. Innovation, continuous improvement, consistent quality, plus excellent service is evidence that Spyderco is always looking forward. I'm somewhat put off by short shelf- life products. I like to see logical progression and evolution of successful lines which inspires confidence in a company and in their products. Just my thoughts.:) Regards, ss.
 
In my opinion the axis-lock is better than a lock-back. A lock-back lock has a singular purpose, which is to lock the blade in the open position. The Axis-lock allows for one hand opening and closing. It also holds the blade in the handle, where as a lock-back's blade is held in place with tension at the pivot point. Another shot to thumb-hole is fact that it can't be paired with an assisted-opening mechanism, because your thumb must remain in contact with the blade throughout the opening of the knife.

I am not sure if you completely understand how a Spyderco lockback works. The blade tang that meets with the lock-back is ground in a way that it does keep the blade closed, typically much better than your average Axis or Liner lock will. The lock release is positioned where it is rather than the back of the handle to facilitate one-handed operation. If you wish to flick your knife open and closed like an Axis knife, you can do this with a Spyderco lock-back by correctly adjusting the pivot and pressing the lock release when you flick open or closed just like on the Axis lock.

As for assisted openers, should Spyderco ever choose to produce one, I see two viable options for them. An index flipper or their cobra hood technology.
 
Goodness gracious. I entered this argument about fifteen hours and three pages too late. I figured I better fast forward to my post, or I would be another two pages back.

tdawg, I think the basis of lack of confidence in the Spyderco formula lies in your perspective of their product. I have to initially agree with you on first opinion that Spyderco doesn't seem to concentrate on flashy and intricate product designs, however, this initial opinion is quickly fading away. If you are interested I would like to share with you my now short but imminently perpetual journey with Spyderco.

I edced a BM 801 g10 ats34 linerlock for about six years. This is quite un impressive by knifenut means, however from my standpoint, this was quite an impressive knife. In my undergound linemans department of about thirty, I carried the best edc available. This was the extent of my knowledge of quality knives until I lost it earlier this year. In my search for a replacement, I went through two short lived purchases of BM's blue class 940 and 960, both axis locks, and I don't mind saying these were awesome knives, and the axis lock is a feet of engineering(expecially when paired with the perfectly balanced 940). However my primary quiteria was edge retention, so I shopped a steel that Spyderco happened to offer, and from advice I received from this forum, I narrowed my search to a ZDP offering, either by Kershaw or Spyderco. The Leek was just two pointy(and thus narrow and dainty), so I chose between the Spyderco Caly, Endura, and Delica. Based on the internet photos, I went with the Endura and promptly placed my order.

When my knife arrived, my first impression was: dang, that's a bit bigger than I need, and my second impression was: man, what a boring knife. Oh don't get me wrong, it had a hole like my last knife, and it was sharp and all, but compared to the two BM axis locks, all I could think was BBBOOOORRRINNNNGGG. But none the less, I had made my decision, and I was going to stick with it. I of course did the perverbial couple of hundred flicks you do with a new knife, but it just didn't quite hit the button with me that the axis lock did.

With that said, one thing I did notice, and quite soon was the solid ccluuCCKKK of the boring old lockback. It seemed everytime I opened it, it got a little more intrenched in the back of my brain. Shortly after my initial purchase, I went on their website and browsed a little. The one overwhelming thing that I gathered from this first browsing session was once againg LOCKBACK. It wasn't too inspiring at the time, however I did gain the confidence that the knife I had was done right.

After I carried the Endura for a few weeks, and had subsiquent browsing and research sessions, I learned that I had a fourth generation knife that a company had perfected over the years. A company that targeted specifically users like me. You see, the largest quiteria in my choice of edc's is functionability matched with price. Funny thing is I found the Spyderco higher on the functionability and lower on the price than the BM's I had chosen, not to mention one of the highest end steels offered in a folding edc knife. I couldn't get that from the pretty looking fancy pancy BM's.

Shortly after my first Spyderco purchase I ran across a thread recommending a Native that Wally World carried, and a few minutes later I found myself driving to the closest freakmart to official start my addiction. Once again, a boring old frn spyderwebbed handle and a boring old lockback, but once again, WHAT A KNIFE! You just have to appreciate what Spyderco has to offer, and that isn't a knife for everybody, just a knife for the people who know what a good knife is... and then they sell it to everybody. After I have carried my Endura and sometimes Native for a few months, I often think to myself Benchmade shmenchmade. They could invest all of their energy into one offering, and they still couldn't make an edc as all around solid as the Endura I carry. That is of course my humble opinion.

With that said, I do admit that solidness is just one part of the equation, but if you just learn to appreciate the Spyderco philosphy, and do a little searching, you will quickly come to the realization that they have the fancy pancy part covered as well. And this will be the new direction of my short but immently long addiction.

Kershaw Shmershaw. Cold Steel Shmold Steel.

Spyderco has my undivided attention. (for now at least).
 
As for assisted openers, should Spyderco ever choose to produce one, I see two viable options for them. An index flipper or their cobra hood technology.

There's a third way. Contrary to what the poster wrote about having to keep his thumb in the opening hole all the way, I find many Spydies without a super-tight pivot will flick right out with about the usual 1/3 of the way most current AO's require.

My older Military takes a bit of effort to do this, but the BG-42 version snaps out as easily as any well-broken-in thumbstud folder. Of course, the Millie has a large thumbhole, which does help get that good inital grip.

I like the cobra hood although the only one I've got is on my Assist, and I find I'm so used to the hole, I don't use the hood unless I think about it.

* ****** **** ****** *

Hey, tummler, not to beat on you, but ... did you really get rid of your Spydie collection because the Lum wore out BUT kept the Lum itself? :)

It's too bad nothing on this Earth lasts forever. I know. I'm wearing out, myself. I know where to complain, but I'm not sure how to take the answer. :p
 
It also holds the blade in the handle, where as a lock-back's blade is held in place with tension at the pivot point.

What? It is not held with spring tension, that's a slipjoint. Also how can a lock hold something at the pivot point :confused:

Here, I sketched these in paint in one minute, so please don't mind the roughness, and the fact that the knives drawn probably won't close :D.

Top: Axis. Bottom: Lockback.
42326240of5.gif


If that notch in the lockback wasn't there, it would be a slipjoint.

Why are the blades Wharncliffe? I have no idea :)
 
Back
Top