Is spyderco behind now?

I didnt read the whole thread, but I would liek to point out (sorry fio someone already mentioned it already) that spyderco was the 1st compnay to use serrations on folders...and to make a one hand openign folder...they are definatly up their with inovation...as far as keepign up, don't worry about them...they stay true to their custoemrs, they will always have new models and new fans as well as their loyal fans...I happent o really like Sal and his intentions...Don't forger that they use an awful lot of VG-10 in their knives...somethgin that other companies are starting to do now, so to me they are ahead of the game...
 
Spyderco's knives have steel behind their edges and their employees stand behind their warranty. They're always developing new knives or new versions of classics and sometimes unforseen situations lead products being released behind schedule. What I don't see is Sal and Co ever getting online and acting like a horse's behind and maybe I can live with that.
 
It is true that Spyderco doesn't come oftenly with fancy innovations (they do have their fair share of innovations, yet I wouldn't call those "fancy", rather functional), but I don't think this puts them behind the line. IMO, Spyderco is the Porsche of knives. And once you carry a Spyderco you'll understand why. I have a few Spyderco knives myself and the only (production) folder better than a Spyderco is another Spyderco. ;)
Besides, I don't even think it's very appropriate to compare Spyderco with Kershaw, for instance. Both make some damn fine knives, but different. After all, it's pretty difficult to decide which one is better, the ZDP Cyclone or the ZDP Caly III. ;)
 
Bought a new Delica 4 about 2 weeks ago---even plan on carrying it some.

Have a Walmart Native---which for me just isn't really a good knife----kinda feel like I wasted $40 on that one.

Pretty much lost all interest in other folders once I tried the AXIS lock---the BM has had a spot in the pocket ever since----nothing else is quite the same or works so well.

I rotate secondary knives between Buck and Spyderco----but the mainstay will always be the BM----at least till someone comes up with something better.

So-- for me-- the Spydies are just an after thought.
 
It seems to me that Spyderco has more projects in the works and is much more receptive and a fast at putting out new and variant models.
 
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Thank You Ken!

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You are welcome to continue your point here.
Most of us already know the truth, have great respect for Spyderco as well as Sal, he has made great contributions in many ways to the knife community, is responsible for putting some great knives in many of our hands at fair prices. The same can be said of Kershaw, Benchmade, Busse, Chris Reeve, Case, CRKT, Queen, Canal Street, small shops and custom makers.

It is a fact that there is no best knife, best steel etc., etc. What foots the bill for one or some of us, may not for someone else.


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tooouter said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_aMGRgc95o
I rest my case.
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Old and worn Axis lock fails spine whack! Axis lock must be worthless!

thedawg said:
poor attitude. Why not. after 23000 posts you must have picked up something but that does not mean ur opinion is more valid than mine.
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No, but if your opinion doesn't have reasoning and his does, then yes, his opinion is more valid than yours.

Put up or shut up, basically. Where is your evidence, financial, ideological, or technological, that Spyderco is "behind"?

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Accusing others of trolling is also another common tactic that is easer than addressing issues.
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Except when it really is trolling, as evidenced by the lack of evidence.
 
I need to break out the popcorn to enjoy where this thread has ended up!

Now, here is my opinion. You are welcome to agree or disagree, this is merely my own opinion.

Spyderco makes very functional knives. Yes, some border on ugly. They are not as flashy as those made by companies such as BM. But when it comes down to ergonomics and ease of use, Spyderco leads the pack. I have knives from many companies. But if I know I will be using a knife a good amount, I will choose a Spyderco every time (my two current favorites are the Para and UKPK).

Their locks work. I prefer the compression lock on my Para to the axis lock on my BM knives.

Based on the offerings of the last few years, Spyderco is by no means lacking in development efforts. And they are willing to make sprint runs of specialty steels for us steel junkies to try out. There aren't many companies out there who offer a wider variety of steels in their knives.
 
bammann45 said:
Is someone making better knives than them for cheaper?
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This is the best response in the thread. It sums it all up. No other company in this range, financially, can touch the Co'. While Spyderco isnt my FAVORITE knife company, they are in my top 3 for sure. Its a family owned business and Sal's blades are of decent quality. I dont think that they are on the same level as Microtech, Chris Reeves, etc, but for the $, no company can touch them, IMO. I like benchmade but Spyderco makes better knives, IMO. So, I dont think Spyderco is behind anything in a negative way... The company is a million dollar company I am sure and the fan base of this company is as loyal as about any other knife companies i know of. Well, not as tightly-knit as those of us on Microholics! :cool:;):D
 
tooouter said:
I think Spidey is absolutely behind in the lock dept. They need to just buck up and pay for a licensing agreement with Benchmade to get their Axis lock or, spend the R&D $$$$ to come up with something that's at least 90% as good. The former is probably way more feasible than the latter.

I could care less if they've got some of the best blade geometries and use the best steels if their locks are decades behind.
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Why is using a lock that has withstood the test of time a bad thing:confused: I have had many knives by Spyderco, and seen many others, and all I can say about them is THEY WORK!! Perhps it is possible to find old ones, or the rare bad egg, but 99.9% of their knives are going to come to you in perfect working condition!
And secondly take a look at the ball bearing lock! It is a cool, and functional new lock!
WE WANT FACTS:thumbup:, NOT OPINIONS:thumbdn:!!!
Steve
 
The first Spyderco was designed to be practical - to be a useful pocket knife without regard to style or tradition or fad. It had harder steel, serrations, a hole to provide for one handed operation and a pocket clip. To say that it was revolutionary is an understatement. I believe the entire industry of contemporary folder designs began with the Spyderco 1. Before the Spyderco there were traditional designs. Spyderco broke the mold and started an entire new industry and many have followed.

I have a reasonable collection of Spydercos - about 40 in all. Every single one of them was designed to carry on the tradition of the original Spyderco 1. Every single one puts practicality, usefulness and performance above everything else. Form truly follows function with Spyderco designs. I don't consider them to be beautiful but rather "charming." I appreciate that the company has remained true to the original vision of performance above fashion.

We don't see many black bladed Spydercos. Why? Because black coatings scratch and become unsightly with use. Satin is more practical. We still see many lockbacks. Why? because lockbacks are strong and reliable. They are practical. Black composition or satin stainless handles are still the norm. Why? Because they are rugged and practical. You can choose between light weight and bombproof. Where are all the assisted opening Spydercos? You know where they are. You will find high performance steels in almost every Spyderco. Why? You know why.

The company has been successful because of its original vision and the consistency with which it has maintained it. If people view gimmickry, gadgetry and beauty as the mark of a good knife, then Spyderco may not be a good choice for them. If they view performance as the critical factor, it is hard to find a more practical knife anywhere at any price.

Spyderco isn't behind. They simply continue to do what they have always done. They continue to dance with whom they brought to the party.
 
The Mastiff said:
What I think is not your concern.Speaking of pot calling the kettle does your post , the first one ever I might add, have anything to do with the Sal Glesser, or Spyderco? Mine did and made a point which obviously was lost on you.
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Would you please explain to us lost sheeple which part of this previous post of yours had anything to do with ''the Sal Glesser, or Spyderco?"

I'd say you're the one "Working in the dark". You haven't a clue about most of the things you are talking about yet you just chat away.

I'm sure we could all just learn from the things you've done with your knife company in the last year. Show us the reason you're a proven commodity, in a few Halls of fame, and considered a legend in the knife industry.

Show us the gold, and explain why we shouldn't just think you're another opinionated yutz with a computer.
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This is your first post? Do you have another name maybe? Good luck. Joe
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Yeah, I have a first name, in addition to my surname. Do I need to provide you with a copy of my driver's licence as ID? Do you have another name apart from Mastiff, which is the name of a dog breed? Would you like to exchange IDs?
 
aj1985 said:
Honestly in my mind Spyderco is the best company hands down. I truly believe it, because it is run by Sal. Sal genuinely cares about each and every person that uses spyderco knives and stands behind his product 100%.
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Sal is a great guy but this is not our issue.
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Many other companies when compared to Spyderco have really become boring, because when i think of creativity i think of spyderco.

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But maybe spyderco is boring bow. It was easier to be innovative in the past because competition was less. Now, its another story.
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SharpOne said:
Please explain. Is this merely based on your assumption or do you have facts that can support that Spyderco is losing out to BM, Kershaw, or CS?
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I just have anecdotal evidence. I think benchmade and Kershaw are selling allot more. The site where I buy my knives has BM as top seller. Sal himself said that
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Coming up with new models cost money and time on the drawing board. Coming out with too many new models is overwhelming for consumers. Consider an automobile manufacturer coming out with 20 models for one year. Not a smart idea.
Variants of the same models can be a good or bad thing. This can be good for models that are already popular and successful, and i doubt Spyderco has anything that is considered a failure. Variants of a popular/ successful model with the introduction of new blade material, handle material, length, etc...can be beneficial since consumers already know about the model and are satisfied and would buy the upgraded model


Again, seems like personal preference. A company's Web site does not indicate the over all value of the company itself.


And one more time, it seems like your personal opinion again. Care to support this statement? Also, being aggressive too often is bad for a company's brand image. Yes, brand awareness is increased with aggressive marketing, but at the same time consumers may be annoyed that company X is advertising too much. Also, you mention marketing, but marketing in what sense- magazine advertising? Web site advertising? Because i do not see any of the other knife companies out there engaging in any aggressive marketing in. How do you suppose Spyderco should go about with their marketing strategy?

Cheers!=)
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Yeah everything I said was my personal opinion thats why I am discussing it here. If i knew the truth I would post a report.
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