Is the Shirogorov market getting soft?

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Quiet said:
Sure thing, man. :thumbup:

P.S. Sorry, I don't believe you, not even a little bit. You're a Shiro fanboy, that's fine. However, if you think you're going to convince anyone that your point of view is the only right one, well, good luck.
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Sorry bro but he is right those three shiro's are in the 30+ grand range. Those knives are absolutely amazing. I could not bring myself to spend that much.... but I am not gonna lie if I was not married with 5 kids I would prob buy at least one of those.


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I'd say this thread has been a roller-coaster, but roller-coaster are fun...

Anyway, I hope the prices go down. I'd love to have one, but can't justify putting down that much cash at the moment.
 
soccerman said:
Because Shirogorov is one of the few folder makers invited to the TKI (Tactical Knife Invitational)
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False. There are about eighty vendors invited, approximately sixty of which are makers of custom folders. Also I don't see Shirogorov listed on the 2017 vendor list?
 
I get the whole art knife thing and paying $30,000 for one is no better or worse than paying the same amount for some jewelry if it's worth it to you and you enjoy it. You'd be crazy to use an art knife to open boxes or break down an a deer but that's not why you bough it. Just like jewelry or a nice watch you only truly get your money's worth if you buy it for its aesthetic value, not to brag about the price or show off.

I'm more interested in the production "user-grade" Shiros that are starting to pop up for less than $600. Shiro has some great designs but there s a lot of competition out there and anyone with a CNC can make the same thing, even without copying Shirogorov. Look at Grimso or any number of others. Hell, Snecx blows Shiro out of the water in terms of design, complexity, and innovation but if I could get a hold of one of those knives I wouldn't be using it to strip an animal. I could see myself using a basic Shiro if they came down to reasonable, non knife-geek/collector prices and availability.

I don't think a Shiro is any more or less "tactical" tan any other nice folder. I've had occasion to use a knife in a "tactical" setting to break open pallets, open MREs, pry shit, smash firing/observation ports and break glass but I wouldn't even abuse my Hinderers doing that stuff and they were designed for it. A true "tactical" knife is something basically replaceable/repairable that you can beat the hell out of and not care. I used a Busse like that because of their no-questions asked warranty. I can damage it and get a new one or get it fixed whenever I want.

Anyway, to get back on track, has anyone else noticed the non-$30,000 Shirogorov market softening?
 
STAINLESS90 said:
False. Their are about eighty vendors invited, approximately sixty of which are makers of custom folders. Also I don't see Shirogorov listed on the 2017 vendor list?
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Yes， they will be there, I know the boss, they have confirmed to me
 
Grapeshot said:
I get the whole art knife thing and paying $30,000 for one is no better or worse than paying the same amount for some jewelry if it's worth it to you and you enjoy it. You'd be crazy to use an art knife to open boxes or break down an a deer but that's not why you bough it. Just like jewelry or a nice watch you only truly get your money's worth if you buy it for its aesthetic value, not to brag about the price or show off.

I'm more interested in the production "user-grade" Shiros that are starting to pop up for less than $600. Shiro has some great designs but there s a lot of competition out there and anyone with a CNC can make the same thing, even without copying Shirogorov. Look at Grimso or any number of others. Hell, Snecx blows Shiro out of the water in terms of design, complexity, and innovation but if I could get a hold of one of those knives I wouldn't be using it to strip an animal. I could see myself using a basic Shiro if they came down to reasonable, non knife-geek/collector prices and availability.

I don't think a Shiro is any more or less "tactical" tan any other nice folder. I've had occasion to use a knife in a "tactical" setting to break open pallets, open MREs, pry shit, smash firing/observation ports and break glass but I wouldn't even abuse my Hinderers doing that stuff and they were designed for it. A true "tactical" knife is something basically replaceable/repairable that you can beat the hell out of and not care. I used a Busse like that because of their no-questions asked warranty. I can damage it and get a new one or get it fixed whenever I want.

Anyway, to get back on track, has anyone else noticed the non-$30,000 Shirogorov market softening?
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Yes, Snecx is great, I've been discussing with him about his folders for some time, I actually preordered the buster, but he suggested me to order the next design, he said it will be the best, and I will participate the auction as well .
 
soccerman said:
I actually sold a well used production 95 here on BF.
I don't use the sergey full custom, but it has the ability to be a great tactical knife , not a art knife, not a AKI knife.
no matter I use it or not, the fact is , it is a great tactical knife.
BTW, I don't think sergey will care any ads here, the demand is much higher than supply.
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So wait, you don't use it, so that makes you a mall ninja, right?
 
Cjwknives said:
Sorry bro but he is right those three shiro's are in the 30+ grand range. Those knives are absolutely amazing. I could not bring myself to spend that much.... but I am not gonna lie if I was not married with 5 kids I would prob buy at least one of those.


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Hey, that's great. I don't actually care what they cost, and I'd still question whether or not he could actually get anyone to pay him that much for them. It's clear that this guy's whole personality is wrapped up in these knives, which frankly, is rather sad. (shrug) But that's none of my business. (sip)
 
This thread has gotten out of control. The guy has some nice knives but everyone tastes are different. If He can see the value in them then who cares if someone else can't who cares. That's what I have gotten from custom knife collecting. Some people will pay 7,000.00 for a Michael Burch do I think it's worth that? No but 20 other people did when I watched the auction.


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Yes, Shiro prices have softened. Not enough for me to buy another because the $700 Shiros are $400 knives.

I don't have nearly the nice knives that some others have around BF, but I do have one Shiro. It's an older Tabargan. Although it's a very nice knife, it's only on par with some other very nice $300-500 knives I have.

Fanboi is a bad thing to be. You tend to discredit any actual knowledge you might have and downplay what otherwise is a nice knife.

When Shiros cost what they're worth, I'll probably buy one.
 
Cjwknives said:
This thread has gotten out of control. The guy has some nice knives but everyone tastes are different. If He can see the value in them then who cares if someone else can't who cares. That's what I have gotten from custom knife collecting. Some people will pay 7,000.00 for a Michael Burch do I think it's worth that? No but 20 other people did when I watched the auction.


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At this point, what this thread is really about is that this guy spent $30,000 on some knives, and we're all beneath him.

$30,000 on knives, that's adorable. Our paid-for rental properties alone bring in...know what, nevermind. This guy won't get it and I'm not a braggart.

The fact that he thinks he's the only one of means here is laughable, is all I'll say. In fact, this thread is almost certainly headed for the lockdown, so I'm outta here. This guy can go back to being a chestbeater on USN, that seems like it's where he belongs.

soccerman said:
Read my previous post, I don't like saying things again and again, it will lower my IQ
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Reading your posts here have lowered the collective IQ of this board by a few points, so it's only fair.
 
Hey guys, no need to dogpile soccerman. He likes Shirogorov, you like Shirogorov, let's focus on that. It's all good.
 
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