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Issue regarding Paypal dispute
- Thread starter Popsickle
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OP bought A.
Seller sent B.
OP brought this to seller's attention and seller ignored OP.
OP opened PP case and seller ignored OP
OP went to final stage with PP. Seller ignored OP and, apparently PP (Otherwise, from my single experience [the "excellent" slipjoint rusted shut], PP would have instructed OP to return item).
My issue is determining how much money and how much more time does the OP owe the seller.
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I think the op has done the right thing so far.
Maybe check your spam email & see if the sellers replies have somehow landed there.
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Maybe check your spam email & see if the sellers replies have somehow landed there.
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Give it some time, as others have stated. Go back to the sale thread, see whom else bought from him. Contact them and see if by chance one of the other buyers still has his address.
It's just not normal for something like this to happen. Assume the worst, hope for the best for this member.
It's just not normal for something like this to happen. Assume the worst, hope for the best for this member.
I called paypal and inquired why i wasn't instructed to ship the item back. The answer was simple.... when the other party is non responsive to a claim... it automatically closes in favor of the person who started it. They move it passed all other steps straight to closed. They do not require proof of shipping at that point. I found this to be very strange.
As for the last issue.... why would i owe the seller money? Time i get but money?
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That would be my opinion, but it's just an opinion.
Agreed that your allowed your opinion but i think what were after is clarification lol. One user directly above your post thought you meant something else than what was typed.... even i had to read it 3 or 4 times and still think there was a mistake in wordage.
If it wasn't a mistake would you care to elaborate a little. Not being a smartass.... im open to all advice/opinions.
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Yes, you don't owe him one cent mate !
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"I think TL is saying that you DON'T owe any more time or money to the seller"
That (you DON'T owe any more time or money to the seller) would be my opinion, but it's just an opinion.
That (you DON'T owe any more time or money to the seller) would be my opinion, but it's just an opinion.
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A question. How was the item delivered? U.S. Postal Service?
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If you feel so bad about keeping the knife just have a "give away" and let someone on the forum enjoy it.
Popsickle, it is NOT your fault! I would have no issues at all trading or buying from you!! Don't let this get you down- you handled it like a pro so far! :thumbup:
Popsickle, it is NOT your fault! I would have no issues at all trading or buying from you!! Don't let this get you down- you handled it like a pro so far! :thumbup:
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I really don't know what you could do at this point. Maybe just hold it for a few months to be sure he isn't coming back. Possibly send out an email once a month to see if anything comes of it. Other than that wrap it up and put it away for now, and don't worry about it. You have done all you can and more than required(though good of you for trying).
I can only think of a few reasons for him not responding- Don't care, hospital, jail, or loss of internet. I figure amnesia and abduction by aliens to be long shots
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I can only think of a few reasons for him not responding- Don't care, hospital, jail, or loss of internet. I figure amnesia and abduction by aliens to be long shots
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39 U.S. Code § 3009 -
(a)
Except for (1) free samples clearly and conspicuously marked as such, and (2) merchandise mailed by a charitable organization soliciting contributions, the mailing of un¬ordered merchandise or of communications prohibited by subsection (c) of this section constitutes an unfair method of competition and an unfair trade practice in violation of section 45(a)(1) of title 15.
(b)
Any merchandise mailed in violation of subsection (a) of this section, or within the exceptions contained therein, may be treated as a gift by the recipient, who shall have the right to retain, use, discard, or dispose of it in any manner he sees fit without any obligation whatsoever to the sender. All such merchandise shall have attached to it a clear and conspicuous statement informing the recipient that he may treat the merchandise as a gift to him and has the right to retain, use, discard, or dispose of it in any manner he sees fit without any obligation whatsoever to the sender.
(c)
No mailer of any merchandise mailed in violation of subsection (a) of this section, or within the exceptions contained therein, shall mail to any recipient of such merchandise a bill for such merchandise or any dunning communications.
(d)
For the purposes of this section, un¬ordered merchandise means merchandise mailed without the prior expressed request or consent of the recipient.
(Pub. L. 91375, Aug. 12, 1970, 84 Stat. 749.)
(a)
Except for (1) free samples clearly and conspicuously marked as such, and (2) merchandise mailed by a charitable organization soliciting contributions, the mailing of un¬ordered merchandise or of communications prohibited by subsection (c) of this section constitutes an unfair method of competition and an unfair trade practice in violation of section 45(a)(1) of title 15.
(b)
Any merchandise mailed in violation of subsection (a) of this section, or within the exceptions contained therein, may be treated as a gift by the recipient, who shall have the right to retain, use, discard, or dispose of it in any manner he sees fit without any obligation whatsoever to the sender. All such merchandise shall have attached to it a clear and conspicuous statement informing the recipient that he may treat the merchandise as a gift to him and has the right to retain, use, discard, or dispose of it in any manner he sees fit without any obligation whatsoever to the sender.
(c)
No mailer of any merchandise mailed in violation of subsection (a) of this section, or within the exceptions contained therein, shall mail to any recipient of such merchandise a bill for such merchandise or any dunning communications.
(d)
For the purposes of this section, un¬ordered merchandise means merchandise mailed without the prior expressed request or consent of the recipient.
(Pub. L. 91375, Aug. 12, 1970, 84 Stat. 749.)