Issue resolved***

[Jedi22]

I purchased a large sebenza 21 CF inlays from this gentleman, Qbert_72
Putting aside the drama on the thread, and lack of communication and organization from the seller. He had the knife listed as LNIB and stated he had it in the pouch a few times. He also priced it as such. He said the knife is in perfect condition. When it arrived, there are marks on the titanium scales, by pivot, lanyard hole, and the pocket clip has a good amount of wear. It was obviously in and out of his pocket. The blue thumb stud is wearing down as well.
Worst part of it all, he shipped a $500 knife in a usps padded envelope. The box is damn near destroyed. I'm lucky the contents of the box are in one piece. I'm pretty sure a small flat rate box is the same price to ship.
If you decide to deal with said gentleman, exercise caution.


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[cbking]

I got an xm18 in a padded envelope the other day. [emoji35]


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[Lone_Wolfe]

Have you contacted him about this?

 

[Jedi22]

Have you contacted him about this?

Yes I have. Still waiting for response


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[Gastonknife]

Could you give us a little more information on the time frame involved please? Like when did you get the knife? What date you made him aware of issue, etc?

 

[Jedi22]

I got the knife last night and messaged him today. He responded apologizing and said he considers the knife Lnib according to his standards


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[Gastonknife]

So to summarize if I may here. You got the knife yesterday. Noticed it was not as described and reached out to seller today. Before he replied you started this thread at 2pm. Then later he finally did respond to you and he says he will do nothing about the deal? If this is the case, seems like there are two issues here. 1. The seller incorrectly described the knife and should accept it back for a full refund. 2. You appear to be quite quick on the trigger to post here about the seller before they even had a chance to respond to you. You should have given them a chance to make it right before posting here, this is kind of a last resort. Now, the seller may end up being a bad apple in the end; but perhaps you should have a little more patience.
Have you made the seller aware of this thread? If not you probably should. Would be nice to hear from them too.

 

[Jedi22]

So to summarize if I may here. You got the knife yesterday. Noticed it was not as described and reached out to seller today. Before he replied you started this thread at 2pm. Then later he finally did respond to you and he says he will do nothing about the deal? If this is the case, seems like there are two issues here. 1. The seller incorrectly described the knife and should accept it back for a full refund. 2. You appear to be quite quick on the trigger to post here about the seller before they even had a chance to respond to you. You should have given them a chance to make it right before posting here, this is kind of a last resort. Now, the seller may end up being a bad apple in the end; but perhaps you should have a little more patience.
Have you made the seller aware of this thread? If not you probably should. Would be nice to hear from them too.

My intention is to let others that may want to have dealings with this member know of my interaction with him. Isn't that what this thread is for? I'm not looking for advice on how to resolve my issue, but to simply inform others that this happened, how he shipped and how he advertised the knife. What he does to fix is does matter, but the fact remains he shipped a $500 knife in an envelope and misrepresented the knife to his advantage so he gets his asking price. He ended up responding to me, after I posted this. His words were "the knife is by my definition of LNIB but YMMV". I explained to him that LNIB means the knife is in the same condition as it is when purchased new.


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[Peter Hartwig]

So to summarize if I may here. You got the knife yesterday. Noticed it was not as described and reached out to seller today. Before he replied you started this thread at 2pm. Then later he finally did respond to you and he says he will do nothing about the deal? If this is the case, seems like there are two issues here. 1. The seller incorrectly described the knife and should accept it back for a full refund. 2. You appear to be quite quick on the trigger to post here about the seller before they even had a chance to respond to you. You should have given them a chance to make it right before posting here, this is kind of a last resort. Now, the seller may end up being a bad apple in the end; but perhaps you should have a little more patience.
Have you made the seller aware of this thread? If not you probably should. Would be nice to hear from them too.

I would agree-unless we missed something. It is only fair to give the seller a chance to make things right, although It does sound like he is pretty far off on the description.
Hope you get it worked out. If he won't work it out, file a PP dispute.

 

[craytab]

I would agree-unless we missed something. It is only fair to give the seller a chance to make things right, although It does sound like he is pretty far off on the description.
Hope you get it worked out. If he won't work it out, file a PP dispute.

This. And post back what happens. He's already got some strikes against him on what you have said already OP, I think the forum would like to know how he handles the situation.

Edit: I see he asks for gift. Please tell us you paid goods!

 

[hoodtube12]

I bought a Benchmade 940 from that same listing from the same seller. The 940 also arrived in a padded envelope lol. I have to disagree with the OP. Qbert's pictures in the listing were accurate and the knife arrived in the condition that was described. Sorry to the OP for being unhappy with the transaction. The seller was never dishonest, shipped via Priority Mail the next morning etc..

 

[Jedi22]

I bought a Benchmade 940 from that same listing from the same seller. The 940 also arrived in a padded envelope lol. I have to disagree with the OP. Qbert's pictures in the listing were accurate and the knife arrived in the condition that was described. Sorry to the OP for being unhappy with the transaction. The seller was never dishonest, shipped via Priority Mail the next morning etc..

The 940 was listed as a user, and the photos show just that. The large sebenza was listed as LNIB, and photos would not show small scuffs and snail trails on the polished titanium, unless the seller was trying to capture them.


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[HappyDaddy]

I'm confused. In the thread, you claimed the small Insingo, which was described as a user. Did I miss something or misread something.

 

[Qbert_72]

All, I immediately responded to NycEric's text without knowing this post was going on and asked how he wanted to settle this and I was told that he would keep it. I've received and shipped knives in this same manner in the past without issue but know now that a box is going to be needed to ensure complete customer satisfaction. Like new in box is how I sold it and now understand that definition varies by individual. The transaction itself was a difficult one all together because it created a feeding frenzy leaving very little room to discuss particulars that would have likely reclassified this as more a user to some. Lessons learned. I hope to receive a second chance by all who read this and appreciate and respect BF and it's members.

 

[craytab]

I'm confused. In the thread, you claimed the small Insingo, which was described as a user. Did I miss something or misread something.

Good catch. Looks like that is what the OP claimed. Not sure how it is relevant though if he did actual pay for the large. OP, can you post pictures of the scuffs and trails? Some evidence coming from your end would make your claims even more solid.

 

[Jedi22]

I'm confused. In the thread, you claimed the small Insingo, which was described as a user. Did I miss something or misread something.

I messaged the seller acknowledging that someone claimed the small 2 minutes before me, and that I would take the large if the small is spoken for


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[HappyDaddy]

I messaged the seller acknowledging that someone claimed the small 2 minutes before me, and that I would take the large if the small is spoken for


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Gotcha - thanks.

 

[Jedi22]

Good catch. Looks like that is what the OP claimed. Not sure how it is relevant though if he did actual pay for the large. OP, can you post pictures of the scuffs and trails? Some evidence coming from your end would make your claims even more solid.

Absolutely. I'll post them tonight. Again, there is nothing wrong with the knife, it's just not as described. If paying for Lnib, I, and most others want Lnib. The box was smashed, and the knife has some trails on it, along with the thumb stud blue fading from usage. I intend to keep this as a knife I will carry. Maybe that's just what it needed to push me to carry this one, because I am almost certain that if the knife was absolutely perfect, I would just keep it in the collection, but that doesn't mean it's ok to misrepresent the sale


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[Lone_Wolfe]

All, I immediately responded to NycEric's text without knowing this post was going on and asked how he wanted to settle this and I was told that he would keep it. I've received and shipped knives in this same manner in the past without issue but know now that a box is going to be needed to ensure complete customer satisfaction. Like new in box is how I sold it and now understand that definition varies by individual. The transaction itself was a difficult one all together because it created a feeding frenzy leaving very little room to discuss particulars that would have likely reclassified this as more a user to some. Lessons learned. I hope to receive a second chance by all who read this and appreciate and respect BF and it's members.

So you offered him remediation, he refused any, then still posts this? From his post I was thinking you'd blown him off. If what you say is true, it won't be you going on my Do-not-deal list.

But in the future, pay a little extra, and ship in a BOX, not an envelope!

 

[Jedi22]

So you offered him remediation, he refused any, then still posts this? From his post I was thinking you'd blown him off. If what you say is true, it won't be you going on my Do-not-deal list.

But in the future, pay a little extra, and ship in a BOX, not an envelope!

This thread was posted before I received a response. Regardless of wether remediation was offered or not, this is not what we should expect from each other. The whole thing started off on the wrong foot and I should have known better than to proceed, maybe it's my fault that this all happened to begin with. That doesn't excuse misrepresenting the knife and shipping in a way that the box to a $500 knife is severely damaged, and hurts it's resale value.
I was asked how I would like to proceed. I'm not one to ask for a few bucks back. I don't need the $20-30 bucks, I wanted the knife.


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