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NycEric:
People are going to have a difference of opinion when it comes to condition description. People are going to have a difference of opinion when dealing with anything. It appears that you had a good seller here. Did he ship the knife incorrectly? Yes. However, he's far from being the first person to do that and he won't be the last and he's admitted it and said he'll do better next time. It appears that he responded to you fairly quickly and offered to work with you, but before that happened you just HAD to get on the GBU and start trying to bash him. The GBU isn't here for every impatient squirrel that can't wait five seconds for a response. This thread is completely useless. When there is a disagreement, the buyer and seller need to try to work it out privately before GBU threads are started, and that may require some patience from both parties. I'm not just trying to bash you here, but you're not making yourself out to be a buyer that is a pleasure to deal with.
People are going to have a difference of opinion when it comes to condition description. People are going to have a difference of opinion when dealing with anything. It appears that you had a good seller here. Did he ship the knife incorrectly? Yes. However, he's far from being the first person to do that and he won't be the last and he's admitted it and said he'll do better next time. It appears that he responded to you fairly quickly and offered to work with you, but before that happened you just HAD to get on the GBU and start trying to bash him. The GBU isn't here for every impatient squirrel that can't wait five seconds for a response. This thread is completely useless. When there is a disagreement, the buyer and seller need to try to work it out privately before GBU threads are started, and that may require some patience from both parties. I'm not just trying to bash you here, but you're not making yourself out to be a buyer that is a pleasure to deal with.
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While not excusable it is rectifiable. I think you hit on it with rookie. Those of us who sell regularly would find it very costly to purposely misrepresent a knife or send it poorly packaged. He could easily be getting the knife back with the crushed box and lucky he didn't loose the knife completely. At least in my case I would have paid return shipping (on top of the original shipping )also, since my description wasn't accurate enough or a substantial deduction. You don't get rich this way and it certainly isn't good for a sellers image.
I think you probably could have handled this privately-the seller seems to have been responsive to the problem and learned from it, and I am greatly appreciative of those who have let me resolve problems in that fashion. However I don't see great harm in your posting it here and getting things cleared up in the open, though you should have waited for the sellers response or lack of it.
I will just warn you-you can be completely right and still screw the whole thing up by responding to posters in a poor manner. That is not a judgment on my part just a heads up.
Guys, I'm sorry that this has consumed our evening or at least mine. It was never in my intentions to be deceitful in any way shape or form. That's one heck of knife and LNIB carried sparingly is a description I chose based on my evaluation. In hindsight I should've just said *used* and likely would have sold it for full asking price because it is a rare one. The packaging was Priority Mail Bubble wrap and then I surrounded the box with lots of grocery bags to add extra support just as I received my last purchase and also my first purchase on this forum which was a NIB XM-18 Fatty Harpoon which comes, as you may know, in a much stronger box. May I propose, we move on and get back to enjoying our knife research, study, collecting, trading, and selling. NycEric asked for money in return and it has been sent. If you want to avoid me when purchasing or selling, please do so, but I can promise you this, I will do better. Have a blessed evening.
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A couple pointers, if I may. First of all, good on your for admitting your mistakes and taking care of eric. Next, remember that the mailing box is meant to protect the knife's box, which is important to us collectors. Always ship in a box. And even more importantly, be critical in your descriptions. Underpromise and over deliver. Good pics of all defects/damage are a big plus.
Have a blessed evening yourself.
Ive been around these forums for about 6 months, and purchased maybe 50-60 or more knives. Never has a single negative comment been made to or about me as a buyer. I've been quite literally reviewed as a pleasure to deal with. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt rather than being attacked for posting in GBU because I want people to know of my experience
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After this thread, there is certainly one member I am going to avoid buying or selling with... and it's the one who has posted now two public complaints about this purchase - the first being in the original thread over who claimed a knife first when the seller got multiple posts, DMs, and emails within minutes of the post going up.
You're buying knives, not medicine for your family. There are hundreds of threads in here arguing about what LNIB or USER mean "officially," or what posting "I'll take it" guarantees or doesn't, but nothing is set in stone because ultimately this is a frivolous pastime and the stakes are not higher than a few hundred bucks spent on a nonessential hobby. If there's a dispute, take it up with the seller, and if it's resolved to your liking, keep it to yourself. If you want to buy knives with absolute guarantees, buy from a dealer.
You're buying knives, not medicine for your family. There are hundreds of threads in here arguing about what LNIB or USER mean "officially," or what posting "I'll take it" guarantees or doesn't, but nothing is set in stone because ultimately this is a frivolous pastime and the stakes are not higher than a few hundred bucks spent on a nonessential hobby. If there's a dispute, take it up with the seller, and if it's resolved to your liking, keep it to yourself. If you want to buy knives with absolute guarantees, buy from a dealer.
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OP, I don't believe anyone is attacking you here. I have not seen one person who says that the seller didn't make a few mistakes. So yes, you have absolutely a point there. But, the seller responded to you very timely and asked you what was needed to make it right. See you may not get to know a man's character when everything goes right. It's when things go wrong you can see it by the way they handle it.
Here is where you went wrong; you did not even give the seller a couple of hours to respond to you before you bashed him on GBU. You didn't even give the guy a chance to do the right thing. This place is for when things can't be resolved between the parties when there is an issue. If you would have waited for him to respond - all this would not have been necessary. But, you just went straight for the jugular here. That is not common courtesy, nor how I am sure you would want to be treated if the roles were reversed. How would you feel then? He did say in the sale that it was LNIB, but also said that it was carried sparingly - that does not mean just put in a pouch several times. His pics don't seem to indicate any major issues with the knife. Perhaps you should have asked more questions to confirm that you both were on the same page regarding condition. Putting all this together, it does not seem like the seller maliciously intended deception.
When you described his response to you in this thread you failed to mention that he asked you what can be done to make it right. You just stated that basically he said I feel my statement as to the condition was correct. Not sure why you left the other part of his statement out - it certainly was very important.
You said you would post pics of the knife in question to validate your claim, but have not yet.
The point here is this: Seller made mistakes, apologized, admitted it and offered to make it right. Seems like a reasonable person that can admit they were wrong, OP not so much.
OP appears to be impulsive, and can not admit that perhaps they were wrong to post so soon here and bash the guy without giving him a chance to reply.
Here is where you went wrong; you did not even give the seller a couple of hours to respond to you before you bashed him on GBU. You didn't even give the guy a chance to do the right thing. This place is for when things can't be resolved between the parties when there is an issue. If you would have waited for him to respond - all this would not have been necessary. But, you just went straight for the jugular here. That is not common courtesy, nor how I am sure you would want to be treated if the roles were reversed. How would you feel then? He did say in the sale that it was LNIB, but also said that it was carried sparingly - that does not mean just put in a pouch several times. His pics don't seem to indicate any major issues with the knife. Perhaps you should have asked more questions to confirm that you both were on the same page regarding condition. Putting all this together, it does not seem like the seller maliciously intended deception.
When you described his response to you in this thread you failed to mention that he asked you what can be done to make it right. You just stated that basically he said I feel my statement as to the condition was correct. Not sure why you left the other part of his statement out - it certainly was very important.
You said you would post pics of the knife in question to validate your claim, but have not yet.
The point here is this: Seller made mistakes, apologized, admitted it and offered to make it right. Seems like a reasonable person that can admit they were wrong, OP not so much.
OP appears to be impulsive, and can not admit that perhaps they were wrong to post so soon here and bash the guy without giving him a chance to reply.
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A fellow member PM'd me to remind me of this thread concerning the OP. Now it all seems to add up.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1451762-*Issue-resolved
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1451762-*Issue-resolved
You are right, I forgot about the "I'm an ER doctor!" Lies. Patient coordinator was it?
Seems like the seller was man enough to admit wrongdoing, and it seems as though he knows to use a box from now on. Good on him
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How is this guy still permitted to use the sale/trade section. The OP clearly lacks patience and character. Bashes a seller for improper shipping methods and light pocket wear, while being an awful seller himself. Again, not a good look.
And me getting banned from the FB group was absolute BS, Nyefmaker banned me for following the rules. He seems to have a problem with me, even though I've been an upstanding member of the group, and haven't broken a single rule. He must not like people that stand up for themselves and don't bow down to his every word
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Doctor you have been involved in two GBU threads in 3 months, neither of which paints you in a very good light, your self diagnosis of being a perfect seller seems flawed.
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