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It followed me home (Part 2)

Brian Rust said:






I have been looking for one of these devices this exact size for about two years but never found one at the price I wanted to pay. I end up finding it two streets over in my neighborhood at a garage sale. I paid $15 for the saw and the vice and $10 for the ax. The gentleman had a garage full of rusty tools that he said he would go through this week and Friday they would be up for sale so hopefully I can get some deals. I am super excited about these items!! My first two man saw!! Can anyone tell anything from these shape?
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I like that blade shape and on a hunch went looking...
Perhaps a Disston 599 TOLEDO

Maybe man! Good Luck and careful cleaning her.
 
Thank you Miller! I would love it if it were a disston. But I will love it if it has an etch at all lol. Yes I do need some handles! And that vise I was blown away just to see it. I mean I could throw a rock at the guys house and I never talked to him or anything. Lesson learned! Get to know your neighbors fellas! This week if I see him outside I may try to pop in and be some stuff before he has his sale. Do some cherry picking!!! He doesn’t have any axes though. But I did see some cool old pieces laying around.
 
That would be cool. Also that vise has a quick set on it. It only has threads on three sides so when u line up the little knobs you can slide it in and out. Seems to be more simple and better than the drop down flip up thread thing most are now. I can’t wait to get it restored!!!!
 
Brian Rust said:






I have been looking for one of these devices this exact size for about two years but never found one at the price I wanted to pay. I end up finding it two streets over in my neighborhood at a garage sale. I paid $15 for the saw and the vice and $10 for the ax. The gentleman had a garage full of rusty tools that he said he would go through this week and Friday they would be up for sale so hopefully I can get some deals. I am super excited about these items!! My first two man saw!! Can anyone tell anything from these shape?
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The vise looks like the "Rapid Action Woodworker's Vise" shown in this 1930 ad for the Columbian Vise and Manufacturing Co.

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Steve Tall said:
There's a similar-looking one at Worthpoint that you've probably found already:
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintage-mor-wood-chainsaw-made-strunk-292687671

Another site has a grey Morwood with some specs posted:

Strunk Model "MORWOOD" direct drive.....same as the Speed Cut.

Model: MORWOOD DIRECT DRIVE
MANUFACTURED BY:STRUNK MANUFACTURING CO.
COATESVILLE, PENNSYLVANIA, U.S.A.
YEAR INTRODUCED:
1956
ENGINE DISPLACEMENT:
4.7 cu. in. (77cc)
NUMBER OF CYLINDERS:
1
CYLINDER BORE:
2.0 in. (50.8 mm)
PISTON STROKE:
1.5 in. (38 mm)
CYLINDER TYPE:
Aluminum with cast iron sleeve
INTAKE METHOD:
Reed valve
MANUFACTURER ADVERTISED H.P.:
3.5
WEIGHT :
21 lbs. (9.5 kg) powerhead only
OPERATOR CONFIGURATION:
One Man operation
HANDLEBAR SYSTEM:
Rigid
CHAIN BRAKE:
none
CLUTCH:
Centrifugal
DRIVE TYPE:
Direct
CONSTRUCTION:
Sand cast aluminum
MAGNETO TYPE:
Wico FW2288
CARBURETOR:
Tillotson HP-12A
AIR FILTER SYSTEM:
Skinner ribbon element
STARTER TYPE:
Fairbanks Morse automatic rewind
OIL PUMP:
Manual
OPERATING RPM:
4,500
IGNITION TIMING:
0.175 in. (4.44 mm) before TDC
BREAKER POINT SETTING:
0.020 in. (0.51 mm)
FLYWHEEL/COIL AIR GAP:
Position is fixed
SPARK PLUG TYPE:
Champion J8J, Autolite A7X, AC M45
SPARK PLUG GAP:
0.030 in. (0.76 mm)
CRANKSHAFT MAIN BEARINGS:
Ball
FUEL OIL RATIO:
1/2 pint to 1 gallon = 16:1
RECOMMENDED FUEL OCTANE:
Regular grade 72 to 83
MIX OIL SPECIFICATION:
SAE 30 non-detergent motor oil
CHAIN PITCH:
1/2 in.
CHAIN TYPE:
Atkins
SHORTEST GUIDE BAR SUPPLIED:
16 in. (40 cm)
LONGEST GUIDE BAR SUPPLIED:
19 in. (48 cm)
COLOUR SCHEME:
Grey enamel

from https://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59821
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got the gear casing apart, it's a normal morwood, there's a clutch in there and there's no clutch cover.

do you guys want to be updated on this saw in a thread? keep in mind updates might be few and far between
 
The “rapid action” is basically a screw that has a slot about 20% of the diameter wide the length of the screw that does not have any threads. So a flat spot yes but more like minus the threads. So that instead of unscrewing the 18” long screw you can twist the screw to where the slot lines up with the “slotted nut” in the vice and slide the jaws open the full 18” in one motion. Or if you are going from a larger piece to a smaller piece you can close the jaws in one motion instead of tightening the handle all the way down. Very handy. And a luxury I am not used to. I have a harbor freight 4” woodworking vise right now.

A continuous screw vice you would have to twist the handle all the way back.
 
garry3 said:
So what is the difference between, quick release , rapid action and continuous screw vises? Faster screws, flat sided screws?
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Adding to what Brian already said, it seems like "quick release" and "rapid action" can be used to mean similar things, although "rapid action" seems to be the older term, and different mechanisms can be used instead of a flat/ slotted screw.

From a 1916 book describing how a "rapid action" vise works:

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from The Furniture Manufacturer and Artisan, September 1916, pages 98-99

In the pictured example of a "rapid action vise", the screw is not slotted or flattened. Instead, there's a "nut section" that engages with the screw unless the roller (hanging on the screw) is turned counter-clockwise by the handle and screw (in which case, the "nut section" moves back and disengages with the screw). Turning the handle clockwise makes the roller and "nut section" move and re-engage with the screw. (In theory, at least.)
 
Steve Tall said:
Adding to what Brian already said, it seems like "quick release" and "rapid action" can be used to mean similar things, although "rapid action" seems to be the older term, and different mechanisms can be used instead of a flat/ slotted screw.

From a 1916 book describing how a "rapid action" vise works:

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from The Furniture Manufacturer and Artisan, September 1916, pages 98-99

In the pictured example of a "rapid action vise", the screw is not slotted or flattened. Instead, there's a "nut section" that engages with the screw unless the roller (hanging on the screw) is turned counter-clockwise by the handle and screw (in which case, the "nut section" moves back and disengages with the screw). Turning the handle clockwise makes the roller and "nut section" move and re-engage with the screw. (In theory, at least.)
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Thank you for that Steve. After seeing pictures of rapid action vises with what looked like regular screws it had me stumped.
 
Hvnkj2J.jpg

i wish my phone would stop flipping pictures.

here's the last little bit of my haul from thursday, the irwin no.22 i mentioned earlier and a man true american hatchet w/ sheath and the original handle

if you are interested in the saw being rebuilt, i will leave an imgur link under my posts that links to a post detailing what i'v been doing,

here's part one : https://imgur.com/gallery/wh4Cz6m
 
phantomknives said:
Hvnkj2J.jpg

i wish my phone would stop flipping pictures.

here's the last little bit of my haul from thursday, the irwin no.22 i mentioned earlier and a man true american hatchet w/ sheath and the original handle

if you are interested in the saw being rebuilt, i will leave an imgur link under my posts that links to a post detailing what i'v been doing,

here's part one : https://imgur.com/gallery/wh4Cz6m
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That True American is exceptionally nice. I think them older ones run on the hard side also. Which I like.

BTW I use an older Irwin adjustable auger bit that I carry to jobs. They work as advertised. Mine looks just like that one even the box but is hexagon ended.
 
phantomknives said:
Hvnkj2J.jpg

i wish my phone would stop flipping pictures.

here's the last little bit of my haul from thursday, the irwin no.22 i mentioned earlier and a man true american hatchet w/ sheath and the original handle

if you are interested in the saw being rebuilt, i will leave an imgur link under my posts that links to a post detailing what i'v been doing,

here's part one : https://imgur.com/gallery/wh4Cz6m[/QUOTE

That handle is superb!! Looks very comfortable. And the sheath looks like it is good quality as well! Very nice piece! I have a lot of those adjustable auger bits. I have found them to work very well and easily sharpened as well! Great haul in total!!!
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That handle is superb!! Looks very comfortable. And the sheath looks like it is good quality as well! Very nice piece! I have a lot of those adjustable auger bits. I have found them to work very well and easily sharpened as well! Great haul in total!!!
 
junkenstien said:
Wow those shovels are in great shape.
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I grab every good solid shank/ closed back shovel I come across. I gave $5 each for those two. The boys axe came from the same place for $3. The Dynamic hammer came from an old junk and tool peddler.. he can't read a word, but kept pointing out the hammer had a name on it and wouldn't Jew any at all. I gave him the $12 asking price for it.
 
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