It followed me home (Part 2)

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this is the last of the things i'v inherited, hopefully not as they've not opened the garage yet. aside from about 3,000 N.O.S matchbooks from my uncle's company store, there's 2 link handles, (single and double, not part of the lot) then there's a NAPA new britain tool box, a nice screw driver, a stanley no.965 from their 1958 catalogue, a 2 sided pruning saw, a nice little west german pipe wrench, then finally the plane. i've looked up the patent information, it's actually started to grow on me a bit since i read the documents, here they are: https://patents.google.com/patent/US1914609A/en?oq=1914609
 
3lb 11oz Kelly works true temper red warrior with paint still on the factory edges no chips or wear. A little paint and its literally as new.
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My second red warrior. Might have to mask up and paint the jersey to.
 
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Rise AU said:
3lb 11oz Kelly works true temper red warrior with paint still on the factory edges no chips or wear. A little paint and its literally as new.
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My second red warrior. Might have to mask up and paint the jersey to.
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That's one excellent find! A Jersey Red Warrior as well...:cool::thumbsup:
That dbl is beautiful, sending my address now:D
More coffee!!;)
 
Hello everyone, I’ve been reading and admiring this forum for a while, figured it was time to start posting some of my own.

I picked this up at a garage sale over the weekend, the stamp reads “Mann Patented XX 1904”. On the backside is a #7 in a circle, and a #5 on the bottom of the poll. The 5 I presume is the weight, which seems right this thing is massive compared to another 3.5# Michigan. But what does the 7 mean? Also is 1904 the production year or?? There seems to be a lot of info on the history of the Mann company, including many patents granted before and after the turn of the century. But I can’t find anything mentioning 1904, nor can I find another example of a similar axe or stamp.

It was hung on a beautiful and slim old handle, but unfortunately it has a pretty major bend about 1/3 of the way up. It’s also the first time I’ve seen one of these metal cap wedges.
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phantomknives & Brian Rust--I have a Stanley #122 transitional plane my Grandfather gave me that belonged to his father. It was made with a "76" on the lever cap commemorating our centennial. My Grandfather told me (as did other old carpenters I worked with when I was young) that when iron bottom planes came out a lot of carpenters did not like the iron bottom and still wanted wood bottom because iron bottom "bruised" the wood you were planing. I still use the #122 all the time.
 
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phantomknives & Brian Rust--I have a Stanley #122 transitional plane my Grandfather gave me that belonged to his father. It was made with a "76" on the lever cap commemorating our centennial. My Grandfather told me (as did other old carpenters I worked with when I was young) that when iron bottom planes came out a lot of carpenters did not like the iron bottom and still wanted wood bottom because iron bottom "bruised" the wood you were planing. I still use the #122 all the time.
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Yes sir, I love my traditional planes! Once you get “the hang” of using them they will give you a better finish on the wood than any iron plane could! Glad to hear you have your grandfathers plane! My grandfather also gave me a plane. It’s an Ohio Tool Company number 22. 22” long. Interesting fact, the Ohio Tool Company used prison labor to construct most of their planes from around 1870-1890... plus or minus some years. So there was probably a prisoner that built and hand crafted that plane. Very cool stuff!!
 
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Hello everyone, I’ve been reading and admiring this forum for a while, figured it was time to start posting some of my own.

I picked this up at a garage sale over the weekend, the stamp reads “Mann Patented XX 1904”. On the backside is a #7 in a circle, and a #5 on the bottom of the poll. The 5 I presume is the weight, which seems right this thing is massive compared to another 3.5# Michigan. But what does the 7 mean? Also is 1904 the production year or?? There seems to be a lot of info on the history of the Mann company, including many patents granted before and after the turn of the century. But I can’t find anything mentioning 1904, nor can I find another example of a similar axe or stamp.

It was hung on a beautiful and slim old handle, but unfortunately it has a pretty major bend about 1/3 of the way up. It’s also the first time I’ve seen one of these metal cap wedges.
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You can always weigh it. I would think the '5' stamp is the weight and the '7' stamp is an inspection stamp maybe. The 1901 stamp is a patent so it wouldve been made not long after probably, its very old. I have a 6lb kelly single bit and its huge.
 
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Hello everyone, I’ve been reading and admiring this forum for a while, figured it was time to start posting some of my own.

I picked this up at a garage sale over the weekend, the stamp reads “Mann Patented XX 1904”. On the backside is a #7 in a circle, and a #5 on the bottom of the poll. The 5 I presume is the weight, which seems right this thing is massive compared to another 3.5# Michigan. But what does the 7 mean? Also is 1904 the production year or?? There seems to be a lot of info on the history of the Mann company, including many patents granted before and after the turn of the century. But I can’t find anything mentioning 1904, nor can I find another example of a similar axe or stamp.

It was hung on a beautiful and slim old handle, but unfortunately it has a pretty major bend about 1/3 of the way up. It’s also the first time I’ve seen one of these metal cap wedges.
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There was, at one time, many patterns to choose from. The Michigan pattern and “Daytonesques” that are made/available now are not the same.
The Michigan pattern itself is a worker.

That is a good looking axe.
Definitely attempt to straighten that one’s handle. :thumbsup:
 
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...“Mann Patented XX 1904”...is 1904 the production year or??
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Mann was making the XX axe before 1904 (there's an 1897 reference to the 1896 patented finish being used only on Mann's XX), but in 1904, Mann Edge Tool announced that it had purchased the other Mann axe factories from American Axe and Tool, and MET officially registered "The XX Axe" label in 1904. Perhaps the 1904 stamp had something to do with being clear about which manufacturer made the axe and was responsible for the warranty?

From the Official Gazette of the United States Patent Office, Volume 109, Part 1, 1904:

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Well guys it was my turn to have a great yard sale! Yesterday i went to one and asked if they had any axes. Ended up with a minty snow and neally #2-1/2 boys axe, a #2-1/4 Walters Black Diamond double bit, a Bay State Saw Co. cross-cut saw and an awesome shovel from the mid 1800's in great shape! I already cleaned and hung the s&n.
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Paid $15 for all of it. Saweet! I partially cleaned and oiled the shovel too.
 
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Well guys it was my turn to have a great yard sale! Yesterday i went to one and asked if they had any axes. Ended up with a minty snow and neally #2-1/2 boys axe, a #2-1/4 Walters Black Diamond double bit, a Bay State Saw Co. cross-cut saw and an awesome shovel from the mid 1800's in great shape! I already cleaned and hung the s&n.
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Paid $15 for all of it. Saweet! I partially cleaned and oiled the shovel too.
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Those are some great looking tools!

I’m down here on the coast to officiate my brother’s wedding but I did find time to stop by a sale of sorts yesterday on the drive in:

Unknown wedge (marked but until cleaning I can’t tell what it is), Plumb hatchet (has yellow AAxx code markings on the wedge), and a fairly intact Homestead swamping pattern. I usually look past the swamping patterns but I thought this one was worth the picking.

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What I didn’t notice until I wiped it off was the crack running down the poll.

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I think I need to find someone here who can fix it for me. I don’t have any welding gear to do it properly. :)
 
Really cool stuff!

The shovel is fascinating! The image showing the front of the shovel makes it difficult to see the rivet connecting the front of the socket to the blade. But it must be there. The back takes most of the load but some stiffness is gained by having that one rivet connecting the blade to the front of the socket. That connection would be in tension during use. The back of the socket would be in compression.

What's the maker's name?

Love the little Black Diamond. I'm interested.
 
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I think I need to find someone here who can fix it for me. I don’t have any welding gear to do it properly.
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Find a good local welder. Un-hang it. Ask him to grind it open (or do that yourself). Make a good v-groove down the crack on the poll and get into the eye as far as is convenient. Have him preheat the poll and weld it with 7018 rod. You could wrap the cheeks with a wet rag if you're concerned about the temper but you're not likely to damage bit temper while welding the poll.
 
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