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These last few weeks have been good to me for finding more axes to restore and re-handle, I picked up most of these from a guy I met at a local tool store who's family has been in woodworking for 4 generations. From left to right-

-E&S mfg. co. 3 1/2 lb dayton pattern
-Keen Kutter 3 lb
-Plumb Boy scout hachet
-Large hudson bay pattern from W. Germany? (stamp says made in W. Germany)
-Plumb Anchor brand stamped claw hatchet
-Broad hatchet without any clear stamps
-Collins Homestead Axe
-Fulton Merit axe
-The blue one I don't know yet......

 
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Is there any way to save this handle?
 
Sure. Sand all the finish off of it and then cut it into 2"-3" lengths. Then save it for the smoker.

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Wet rawhide wrap. Stitched then dried by the fire. Functional if not decorative. Alternatively, the modern equivalent; electrical tape. Somewhat less decorative.
 
a few broken teeth but i figured it would be a good saw for learning how to sharpen and for getting more exercise than with the chain saw.

 
Nice looking saw... is that "Canada" I read on the handle?

If you don't mind me asking, what does a saw like that set you back?
 
Should make a very serviceable saw. Looks like a well worn lance tooth. The gaps between the lance teeth are really shallow. The gullets are a little shallow but not too bad. That's a very cool handle. I haven't seen that style before. It probably started its life as a two-handed saw.
 
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a few broken teeth but i figured it would be a good saw for learning how to sharpen and for getting more exercise than with the chain saw.

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You have a sweeeet saw. The tooth pattern on it is called a Tuttle pattern. It is very similar to a Champion pattern. Both the Tuttle and the Champion pattern were designed to cut hardwoods. But it will also do a fair job cutting softwoods also. If I was to own one saw, it would be a Tuttle / Champion pattern. Use some oil for a lubricant and a sharpening puck and you'll be surprised at how it will remove the surface rust on your saw. Clean it using strokes that follow the length of the saw.

If your going to sharpen & tune her up let me know. I have lots of reference materials that I can send you about crosscut saws.

I really like the handle on your saw. You don't see the type of handle very often and yours is in great condition. I can see it has markings on it. Can you tell us what they are?

Enjoy your saw, Tom

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The figure comes from Crosscut Saw Reflections in the Pacific Northwest by Jim Deaton and compares the Tuttle Tooth and Champion Tooth patterns. The tuttle teeth are almond shaped, the champion teeth are triangular. There is also a difference in the depth of the space between the two cutters, full depth for the Champion, and half that for the Tuttle.

EDIT: I think I found a reference to your Cc handle. Is it marked; VIKTOR NO 16, CANADA, with a PAT-D 1930?
 
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Anyone ever seen "Clear Cut" marked on an axe? Picked this up at a flea market. Handle and head have a nice patina on them. Head is loose, gonna need a new wedge. There are no other marks. I can't find any reference to "clear cut" on google or this forum. Any help?

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Double Ott said:
The tooth pattern on it is called a Tuttle pattern. It is very similar to a Champion pattern.
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You may be right. But to me it looks more like worn lance tooth. The incisors are in sets of four like a lance tooth, not sets of two like a Tuttle or Champion pattern.
 
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You may be right. But to me it looks more like worn lance tooth. The incisors are in sets of four like a lance tooth, not sets of two like a Tuttle or Champion pattern.
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Saw makers produced many different patterns of cutters and raker combinations. The pattern isn't defined by the number of cutters in the pattern.

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Still looks like a lance tooth to me with those wide gullets. But I'll concede that I'm not certain.
 
I don't think I've ever seen a Lance tooth that had significant larger gullets between the rakers compared to the cutters. They are usually uniform.
 
I don't quite follow you, Matt. The gullets of every lance tooth I've seen look like that saw. I've got 4 of them in the garage right now.

This one has the teeth worn down like theDH's saw but not quite as worn.

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[Edited to ad]: Sometimes a saw would get sharpened repeatedly without the filer taking the time to deepen the gullets and gaps between the incisors (lance teeth). The result is a saw that looks like that. I've seen plenty of them in antique stores at at flea markets here in the NW where the lance tooth saws were preferred.

I can't say how this particular saw came to look like this. But I know that the process described above will result in a saw that looks like this.
 
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yes its a VIKTOR #16. i paid the asking price of 100 and it came with a handle for each end. the seller also had some nice 2" and 3" augers on 4ft shafts with perfect handles but I couldn't imagine having a use for them.



the saw looks like the tooth and rakers are the original length and shape near the ends of the saw but are well worn in the center of the saw. the teeth are pretty sharp and seam to be set well.
 
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I don't quite follow you, Matt. The gullets of every lance tooth I've seen look like that saw. I've got 4 of them in the garage right now.

This one has the teeth worn down like theDH's saw but not quite as worn.

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[Edited to ad]: Sometimes a saw would get sharpened repeatedly without the filer taking the time to deepen the gullets and gaps between the incisors (lance teeth). The result is a saw that looks like that. I've seen plenty of them in antique stores at at flea markets here in the NW where the lance tooth saws were preferred.

I can't say how this particular saw came to look like this. But I know that the process described above will result in a saw that looks like this.
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Well, I would have called that a champion tooth.
 
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