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The cold detective in me asks: How well do you know your roommate?
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It looks like my custom Emersons were stolen
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The seller or shipper, whatever your relationship with him, absolutely owes you the full value of those knives. You can bet your ass that he didn't insure them because he wanted to save the money. He took the chance, and he lost. IMO you're being stupid, free custom work indeed. That's BS, tell him you want the money because he screwed up, and, failing him paying, sue him in small claims court.
Since you sent the knives insured to him it was his responsibility to send the knives back insured to you. If he tried to save a few dollars of insurance money then it was a risk that he decided to accept and he lost. He is 100% at fault unless you told him not to insure them back to you.
I don't really understand why you feel sorry for him in having to pony up since it was he who screwed up. You shouldn't even have to ask him to pay you. He should be willing to do it if he is a stand up guy.
I don't really understand why you feel sorry for him in having to pony up since it was he who screwed up. You shouldn't even have to ask him to pay you. He should be willing to do it if he is a stand up guy.
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I agree... He should have to pay for his negligence.
This is very poor business practice.
Anyone who runs a professional business working with high end custom knives, knows that they are to be mailed back to the customer with signature required and insurance.
It's a way of protecting your business against loss and fraud.
If you take the risk and not use insurance and the package goes missing then it's the shipper/business's fault. He took the risk and decided not to protect his business and he lost... He made a mistake, is now negligent, and should have to pay.
Sending him a link to this thread might help you out, it might not, who knows, but it's worth a try right?.
Free custom work :jerkit:
This is very poor business practice.
Anyone who runs a professional business working with high end custom knives, knows that they are to be mailed back to the customer with signature required and insurance.
It's a way of protecting your business against loss and fraud.
If you take the risk and not use insurance and the package goes missing then it's the shipper/business's fault. He took the risk and decided not to protect his business and he lost... He made a mistake, is now negligent, and should have to pay.
Sending him a link to this thread might help you out, it might not, who knows, but it's worth a try right?.
Free custom work :jerkit:
I was wondering about that myself but did not feel like being the first one to raise the question.
On a related note, did your roommate know you had a package coming with very valuable stuff inside?
Regardless, the buyer is still liable because he did not ship those knives properly. In your case, signature would have been even more important than insurance because the mailman would not have been able to leave that package on your doorstep unattended like he allegedly did.
Do you have pictures of those knives? They could be useful if you want people to keep an eye open for you (I have zero knowledge of Emersons, so your description does not mean anything to me).
i have had a few boxes left on my doorstep which should have required a signature, i live in a pretty nice 'hood but still............
i hope ya find 'em bud, or get some $$, i know ya were wanting that P-tac for a while now, sure am sorry to hear this.
i hope ya find 'em bud, or get some $$, i know ya were wanting that P-tac for a while now, sure am sorry to hear this.
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I've already tossed his room. There are few places he could hide them, and he doesn't have the stones to stand up to me anyways. He has friends who come over though, so it may have been one of them.
Believe me, I've thought about this. But I'm not the kind of person who has emotional upheavals - about anything. I don't get emotional very easily. I'm pissed about the loss of the knives, but I'm not going to fly into an ape-rage.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=745737
Scroll down to comment number 15. Those are pictures of the knives.
Normally, Emersons all have the same peel-pry black G-10 scales - the texture looks and feels like fine sandpaper. Mine were customized with G-10 bead blasted scales on the Persian and carbon fibre scales on the Super CQC-8.
Let me know if you guys see anything. I'm definitely keeping an eye out.
Damn Thieves!!!!! You have to watch it on everyone anymore. I had a new MACH 1 a few years ago and like a damn fool, I left it on my desk at work after eating lunch to go clean up my dish in the building kitchen. When I returned....the knife was G-O-N-E. I frantically searched everywhere for it to no avail. I asked the guy I shared my office with if he had used it, he said "No" and that he too had just returned to the office. I asked everyone about it, rechecked my steps...nothing. I loved that MACH 1...I added a lanyard to it I made myself. About 8 months later, I was helping the same office partner move and upon bringing some of the boxes into his new home...to my amazement, his wife was using my MACH I knife to open some of the boxes to unload them...I absolutely froze in my tracks and asked her where she got it....she said, "Oh, this is Dave's...it was given to him for his 10 years service award...." I never said a word to her and made sure another guy who was helping that we worked with saw the knife too. I then went outside for a "side bar discussion" with the new home owner/thief. I was so goddamn mad I was seeing red. I told him that I and our co-worker just saw his wife using my MACH1. He took a big swallow and said, "umm...sorry man, I'll get that to you....just take it easy." Take it easy!?! I then let him know that since I had made a report of the theft of the knife on the job and now found the thief and had a witness....I owned his ass. I could easily see that he could lose his job in a New York minute. He now got the realization of it. Ok, so...I get my knife back...now I must decide if I am going to be an azzhole and own this guy's world or let it go. The guy has a family...I let it go....but I did tell him how disappointed I was in him and that he must put in for a transfer to another building that was open. I told him I didn't trust him in my presence anymore. Too bad the other co-worker wasn't as private...he told the entire plant...the guy eventually was shamed beyond belief and 2 months later he took another job in Portland.
That's how it goes I guess....
That's how it goes I guess....
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Damn Thieves!!!!! You have to watch it on everyone anymore. I had a new MACH 1 a few years ago and like a damn fool, I left it on my desk at work after eating lunch to go clean up my dish in the building kitchen. When I returned....the knife was G-O-N-E. I frantically searched everywhere for it to no avail. I asked the guy I shared my office with if he had used it, he said "No" and that he too had just returned to the office. I asked everyone about it, rechecked my steps...nothing. I loved that MACH 1...I added a lanyard to it I made myself. About 8 months later, I was helping the same office partner move and upon bringing some of the boxes into his new home...to my amazement, his wife was using my MACH I knife to open some of the boxes to unload them...I absolutely froze in my tracks and asked her where she got it....she said, "Oh, this is Dave's...it was given to him for his 10 years service award...." I never said a word to her and made sure another guy who was helping that we worked with saw the knife too. I then went outside for a "side bar discussion" with the new home owner/thief. I was so goddamn mad I was seeing red. I told him that I and our co-worker just saw his wife using my MACH1. He took a big swallow and said, "umm...sorry man, I'll get that to you....just take it easy." Take it easy!?! I then let him know that since I had made a report of the theft of the knife on the job and now found the thief and had a witness....I owned his ass. I could easily see that he could lose his job in a New York minute. He now got the realization of it. Ok, so...I get my knife back...now I must decide if I am going to be an azzhole and own this guy's world or let it go. The guy has a family...I let it go....but I did tell him how disappointed I was in him and that he must put in for a transfer to another building that was open. I told him I didn't trust him in my presence anymore. Too bad the other co-worker wasn't as private...he told the entire plant...the guy eventually was shamed beyond belief and 2 months later he took another job in Portland.
That's how it goes I guess....
Looks good on him.
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Well the thing is, I was working E3 that whole week, so I was gone every day from 9:00 AM until 6:30 PM - and since I didn't know he had sent the knives out at the beginning of that week, I had no idea when to expect them.
If I'd known when they were coming, I would have waited at home to receive them before heading down to the convention centre.
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Here are some pics of the knives. Hopefully someone here might get wind of them if they turn up online:
Persian Tactical: heavy bead blasted black G-10 scales
Super CQC-8: matte black carbon fibre scales, scalloped finger groove
Persian Tactical: heavy bead blasted black G-10 scales
Super CQC-8: matte black carbon fibre scales, scalloped finger groove
I'm not in any way suggesting you go into "ape-rage" about it. However, there is quite a bit of emotional distance between ape-rage and your current state of acceptance, sort of like "oh, well, sh**t happens". It does happen but business is business and the sender did not follow common business practices, that is insuring, etc. I'd calmly tell the sender he owes me for the knives and how does he plan on making it good and when, and if he won't pay, send him a registered letter demanding payment within say, 10 days, or that you will institute legal proceedings. You may never collect anything but just the threat of having a judgement on his record should be reason enough for him to pay up if he plans on staying in business. Small claims courts are cheap and don't require a lawyer.
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