It may fail my rope test, but the S35VN Sebenza still works fine for EDC.

[marthinus]

I want to see more pictures like THIS from the CRK people who have been so negative towards CTS and Ankerson's work. But then again, using a Sebenza or Zaan for cleaning and processing game would probably "Not be the right tool for the job" hehe

Here are some pictures for you (from a recent post on another forum). I dont buy pocket jewelry. Waste of my money.

CPM-M4 Military

It has seen a lot of work at a new site:

and my Sebenza Insingo has seen some work:

No plastic board....sorry

and have been using my Gareth Bull custom for the same work (but no pictures of its work sorry). This was taken when still new (have been on site for a few months so no new pictures showing use of this one).

Have some other hunting pictures, but a bit bloody. I just buy knives to use that float my boat. Working on the farm I use my knives to cut plenty of different things. It is a knife. My uses may vary from others. I have had no issues with any of my knives except a CRKT.

 

[Haze]

Many people use their CRKs but don't have much interest in setting up glamour shots every time they cut something. When I worked in forestry the last thing on my mind was stopping to take pictures of my knife for all the people that didn't believe I used it. Now a days I have a bit more free time for recreational persuits and I still don't often bother to take pictures of my knife when I use it to cut something. That doesn't mean it's not being used. I do agree that "collectors" should probably keep their aired opinions to fit and finish tolerances and over all appearances of a knife.

Exactly. For as staunchly as many of the CRK fan's have defended CRK products in your thread I don't see very many pictures like this on the CRK forum. All knives, regardless of high cost or low manufacturing tolerances should be subject to scrutiny. I love CRK designs and will buy them if the price is right but I just see so much opposition to scrutiny and criticism that it kind of turns me off. If you had the same thing happen with a Busse/ ESEE/ Swamp rat or as noted Spyderco knife, and posted about it Jerry, Jeff, Eric and Sal will be on top of it and tell you to send it in so they can address the issue.

Knives should be expected to perform and criticism is healthy and should be accepted, especially when it comes from dedicated knife enthusiasts like you and Ankerson.

Anyways knives in the $400 dollar range should be expected to perform and handle tasks that can be expected for the design at hand. That type of failure after rope cutting is unacceptable and their was obviously an issue with the HT of that CRK. It just bothers me to see such a negative and hateful response from a supposed "knife community" over brand loyalty.

I like many types of knives but I am loyal to ESEE, Busse, Spyderco Etc because they have shown such a remarkable dedication to customer service and performance.

Knives are made to be used and testing, criticism, and scrutiny are healthy elements for any company. Even one as renown as CRK still makes mistakes and I am disappointed in how long it has taken for CRK to address the issue with the Seb and am even more disappointed in the CRK communities response to the tests carried out by CTS.

I want to see more pictures like THIS from the CRK people who have been so negative towards CTS and Ankerson's work. But then again, using a Sebenza or Zaan for cleaning and processing game would probably "Not be the right tool for the job" hehe

 

[Irezumi]

The steel still has room for improvement in my opinion (JUST an opinion), but in no way should anyone be worried about buying a Sebenza and it not performing.


Stick with your original opinion, no need to backpeddle. If it is a POS knife it is a POS knife. It helps the community by allowing others to not get done for their money. Up until I saw your video I thought s35 was the thing to get...now I know it isnt, well in the current offerings, so you have saved me money, thanks.

 

[Tim616]

I have had to process cardboard slip sheets for upwards of 100 pallets with 4 per pallet. Spent a good 2hr's just cutting cardboard that day. Some of us are hard on our EDC's

That's just the thing though, EDC can't even be defined with one test.
Per example, you work a labor job and use it all day to cut things, meanwhile I design computer hardware, and I could get buy with a key on my keychain to pop tape, so my EDC is different, cause I only need to cut something once a day or so.

Then there's recreational EDC, when I'm in the outdoors I'm going to use my knife a lot more than at work. So in reality there's no full proof test that will satisfy everyone's ideas of EDC.

 

[NightMare Silverado]

That's why I said "some of us" I would rather see a test where you cut rope, zip ties, cardboard then cutting open a FedEx box or some chips because if it can handle the much harder stuff you will know your set for light duty use.

 

[Zidane]

Looks good to me! Thanks for the video.

 

[DBH]

CTS, have you done the cardboard test with the Native as well? Just curious on how the Native would have performed for the same cardboard cutting.

 

[richstag]

all to often people will pick "the right tool for the job" before choosing a knife to do ANY task. They pretty much talk themselves out of using their knife because "there is a better tool for this job."

A lot of people that say this are not afraid to use their knives. It is more of a statement out of necessity. A professional mechanic/tradesman has daily tasks that a knife is just not the preferred tool to execute. I could go on to list tons of examples, but my point is that, for myself at least, the right tool for the job is chosen due to the performance, safety and day in day out reliability.

With that said, I still want to see these tests. Who hasn't been in the field and NEEDED to use their knife when the "best tool" simply wasn't available?

 

[Handwrecker]

Knives should be able to handle a plastic cutting board.

Just to clarify; I agree that knives should be able to handle a cutting board. That's what the knives and boards are made for. Then again, I've never used a folder or a big fixed blade when it comes to preparing dinner in my kitchen, I use very thin and a more delicate kitchen knives. I'm an unbiased but interested observer, and was just asking as that was one of the factors that I thought might have an impact on this controversial topic. I was simply pondering that perhaps the repeated hard pressure through the tough manilla might be putting a lot of force into the edge when it hit the (not) plastic board, since the edge was highly refined from the Edge Pro. I stand corrected. It's something that I've seen happen quickly on the delicate edges of kitchen knives, and I'm of the opinion that a wood board helps keep my kitchen knives in better shape. I like my veggies thin, and man are those knives fun! Next time I'll have to watch the vid closer.

I agree with Haze though, it seems like the "proper tool for the job vs one knife to rule them all" always turn into a pissing match. My folders and smaller fixeds have seen more than their fair share of fish and squirrels, plus whatever cardboard and rope/line comes up from work. But that one simple cutting board question makes me a knife poser? Disheartening.

Sorry for the rant CTS, and keep up the tests. No harm in knowledge and thinking. A quality utility blade is an invaluable tool.

 

[JNewell]

How the edge hits and moves on the board could make a huge difference. If there's any lateral motion at all, which is probably inescapable, there is likely to be some edge wear/damage/choose your own word, I think.

Just to clarify; I agree that knives should be able to handle a cutting board. That's what the knives and boards are made for. Then again, I've never used a folder or a big fixed blade when it comes to preparing dinner in my kitchen, I use very thin and a more delicate kitchen knives. I'm an unbiased but interested observer, and was just asking as that was one of the factors that I thought might have an impact on this controversial topic. I was simply pondering that perhaps the repeated hard pressure through the tough manilla might be putting a lot of force into the edge when it hit the (not) plastic board, since the edge was highly refined from the Edge Pro. I stand corrected. It's something that I've seen happen quickly on the delicate edges of kitchen knives, and I'm of the opinion that a wood board helps keep my kitchen knives in better shape. I like my veggies thin, and man are those knives fun! Next time I'll have to watch the vid closer.

I agree with Haze though, it seems like the "proper tool for the job vs one knife to rule them all" always turn into a pissing match. My folders and smaller fixeds have seen more than their fair share of fish and squirrels, plus whatever cardboard and rope/line comes up from work. But that one simple cutting board question makes me a knife poser? Disheartening.

Sorry for the rant CTS, and keep up the tests. No harm in knowledge and thinking. A quality utility blade is an invaluable tool.

 

[GigOne]

Yeah but Sebenza means work in Zulu! Buy one now and ditch the box cutter.

I've owned / have owned a few Sebenzas. In fact, 22. I'm more selective on what I use knives and box cutters for.

What's the problem with this?

First my rope test isn't real world enough, now this one isn't either? The grapes are too sour for some it seems.

Didn't watch your "rope test." Watching coaxial cable cutting vid and stepped down box cutting thread was enough. But thanks!

Sour grapes?

You're full of "assumptions!" Poor baby. . .don't get all butt hurt because someone doesn't agree with your. . .errrrr. . . .so-called "testing."

i think he wants you to do "real world" tests like that of the knifetests.com thread, otherwise your videos hold no ground

Thinking for others (more assumption BS). . .you'll hurt yourself.

it's funny to see people attack so quickly, regardless if it was a CRK or x brand. It's better to have people out there actually take the time out to show others their results, than someone about to purchase a $$$ knife with no reviews, no videos, lack of information in general. I would have never made a CRK purchase if i hadn't seen the countless comments, videos, reviews from this forum. So thanks to those who take their time out to do this kind of thing.

There are copious amounts on information "on this forum" about Sebenzas and other edged tools. I know shocking.

I've yet to purchase a knife as a result of watching any of the lame, assed "vid reviews" circulating on the InnerWebz. For the most part. . .they're pretty much worthless, IMHO. Oh, just like the knifetests.com you seem to want to toss in my lap. :jerkit:

i don't think the majority posting on here are doing so on their smartphones, so the ones casting judgement are probably on their desktops idling around throwing out their useless opinions. Find something better to do eh.

Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions.

Like the device used to post matters? I know. . . .I'm also posting from my Mom's house. You know, from my basement bedroom.

 

[Ken44]

Well said Gig:thumbup:

 

[cziv]

Feeling better? Did ya get all of that out of your system? It didn't really make a lot of sense. Maybe you could state your point in Earth language and no jerkits? Thanks!

I've owned / have owned a few Sebenzas. In fact, 22. I'm more selective on what I use knives and box cutters for.






Didn't watch your "rope test." Watching coaxial cable cutting vid and stepped down box cutting thread was enough. But thanks!

Sour grapes?

You're full of "assumptions!" Poor baby. . .don't get all butt hurt because someone doesn't agree with your. . .errrrr. . . .so-called "testing."





Thinking for others (more assumption BS). . .you'll hurt yourself.






There are copious amounts on information "on this forum" about Sebenzas and other edged tools. I know shocking.

I've yet to purchase a knife as a result of watching any of the lame, assed "vid reviews" circulating on the InnerWebz. For the most part. . .they're pretty much worthless, IMHO. Oh, just like the knifetests.com you seem to want to toss in my lap. :jerkit:

Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions.

Like the device used to post matters? I know. . . .I'm also posting from my Mom's house. You know, from my basement bedroom.

 

[bhyde]

The bromance in the CRK forum has been interesting as of late. LOL

 

[cziv]

The bromance in the CRK forum has been interesting as of late. LOL

Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy getting rid of the hooligans and getting back to CRK love again.

 

[GigOne]

Feeling better? Did ya get all of that out of your system? It didn't really make a lot of sense. Maybe you could state your point in Earth language and no jerkits? Thanks!

Thanks for asking, Mom.

Relatively cut-and-dry responses. I have no control over you're inability to "make a lot of sense" of what was written. But, in the future, I'll make it a point to dumb it down for you. Maybe a crash course in comprehension will assist with your little problem.

Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy getting rid of the hooligans and getting back to CRK love again.

:jerkit:

A legend in your own mind.

 

[lemmuhj]

This thread is getting awesome!!!!

 

[cziv]

Thanks for asking, Mom.

Relatively cut-and-dry responses. I have no control over you're inability to "make a lot of sense" of what was written. But, in the future, I'll make it a point to dumb it down for you. Maybe a crash course in comprehension will assist with your little problem.







A legend in your own mind.

I'm waiting for the dumbed down version you promised.

 

[Ken44]

I don't think he can get that stupid.

 

[cziv]

I don't think he can get that stupid.

You're probably right. He's still stuck on social ettiquette 101.

Another tail trying to wag the dog....