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To be honest I had never heard of Jim Wagner before I saw his add taken out a couple years ago selling his "Reality Based" knife made by Boker of Germany. The knife did not appear to be total junk like many of the knives sold as military style knives but it was nothing new outside of having more features than a Swiss Army Knife, all of them being overhyped as selling points when in fact it was just much about nothing. The initial advertisement did stay in the back of my mind as it was somewhat bothersome to see what was a small fuller advertised as blood grooves on a knife that was being marketed to kill humans as a last line of defense when in fact the fuller is absolutely useless in such a small blade and possibly harmful by making the small thin blade harder and more brittle during the heat treat which would make it snap under stress rather than bend. I considered it dishonest advertisement but in retrospect it could have just been amateur design combined with hyper marketing. Later the name Wagner seemed to pop up everywhere, mostly in paid advertisements.
Here is a picture of the knife as advertised.
I viewed the knife advertisements as being overhyped but the resume of the designer would make P.T. Barnum blush. According to Jim Wagner himself he is none other the original Black Belt Forrest Gump of been there done that military cop special tactics special forces sniper counter sniper scout sniper marshal inosanto kali jeet kun do krav kapap counter terror mofos. What follows is pictures and quotes mostly from the Wagner website.
http://www.jimwagnertraining.com/aboutjimwagner.html
Much has been made about Wagner and his military background and I'm quite sure that anyone unfamiliar with the Army and DOD Documents would be impressed with Wagner on paper, however, any military personnel who read the Army resume of Wagner is left with more questions than answers. After I read part of it I started asking some questions myself, here are some of the answers to those questions.
Was Jim Wagner ever in the Army? That answer is yes, He joined the Army under the name James Linn Wagner on September, 9, 1980.
Was he ever a Sergeant in the U.S. Army? That answer is No. His highest rank was PV2 which is to say he was a Private E2. No shame in that but it is one hell of a dishonest thing to dress up in military uniforms in advertisements and and call yourself Sergeant selling to those looking for military based training.
Was Wagner ever Special Forces or any kind of Operator in the Army? Yes, he was a radio operator, beyond that, no, he was not Airborne, Special Forces, or a member of any unit considered high speed and to insinuate any such thing is just a lie.
How much Military experience does Wagner have in reality? This question was hard to answer but it has now been answered and I'm posting it here on Blade Forums first. Jim Wagner was a member of the U.S. Army a sum total of 8 months, thats right, he was only in the Army for 8 months and a week or so. His entry date was September 9, 1980 and his discharge date is May 20, 1981.
To break this down into a time line, 9 weeks basic training, 7 weeks radio operator training, 10 days (give or take) leave between training and showing up to duty at permanent party, undisclosed incident that made Wagner unfit for duty and eligible for separation, A few weeks worth of paper work to discharge him from the Army.
The paperwork I saw concerning this stated, "Transcript of Court-Martial Trial, Not In file" which could be read two ways, one, there was not a Court-Martial Trial, or two, there was a Trial and it resulted in him being discharged and the transcript was just as it said, Not in file. I cant say either way as I do not know but one thing is for sure, Jim Wagner was not discharged from the Army for doing a good job, furthermore his failure to be truthful regarding his true military record adds him to my list of scumbags.
Here is a picture of the knife as advertised.
I viewed the knife advertisements as being overhyped but the resume of the designer would make P.T. Barnum blush. According to Jim Wagner himself he is none other the original Black Belt Forrest Gump of been there done that military cop special tactics special forces sniper counter sniper scout sniper marshal inosanto kali jeet kun do krav kapap counter terror mofos. What follows is pictures and quotes mostly from the Wagner website.
http://www.jimwagnertraining.com/aboutjimwagner.html
Much has been made about Wagner and his military background and I'm quite sure that anyone unfamiliar with the Army and DOD Documents would be impressed with Wagner on paper, however, any military personnel who read the Army resume of Wagner is left with more questions than answers. After I read part of it I started asking some questions myself, here are some of the answers to those questions.
Was Jim Wagner ever in the Army? That answer is yes, He joined the Army under the name James Linn Wagner on September, 9, 1980.
Was he ever a Sergeant in the U.S. Army? That answer is No. His highest rank was PV2 which is to say he was a Private E2. No shame in that but it is one hell of a dishonest thing to dress up in military uniforms in advertisements and and call yourself Sergeant selling to those looking for military based training.
Was Wagner ever Special Forces or any kind of Operator in the Army? Yes, he was a radio operator, beyond that, no, he was not Airborne, Special Forces, or a member of any unit considered high speed and to insinuate any such thing is just a lie.
How much Military experience does Wagner have in reality? This question was hard to answer but it has now been answered and I'm posting it here on Blade Forums first. Jim Wagner was a member of the U.S. Army a sum total of 8 months, thats right, he was only in the Army for 8 months and a week or so. His entry date was September 9, 1980 and his discharge date is May 20, 1981.
To break this down into a time line, 9 weeks basic training, 7 weeks radio operator training, 10 days (give or take) leave between training and showing up to duty at permanent party, undisclosed incident that made Wagner unfit for duty and eligible for separation, A few weeks worth of paper work to discharge him from the Army.
The paperwork I saw concerning this stated, "Transcript of Court-Martial Trial, Not In file" which could be read two ways, one, there was not a Court-Martial Trial, or two, there was a Trial and it resulted in him being discharged and the transcript was just as it said, Not in file. I cant say either way as I do not know but one thing is for sure, Jim Wagner was not discharged from the Army for doing a good job, furthermore his failure to be truthful regarding his true military record adds him to my list of scumbags.
