Just can't warm to SAKs

I remember as a kid looking at an add for the Savage 99 in an outdoor magazine .
It had a Indian chief in full feathered head gear sitting cross legged holding the rifle out in front of him .
For a small kid living at the bottom of the world that was the coolest picture I'd ever seen .
You have just reminded me of it , and I'm tempted to look for one myself .
What calibre are you thinking of ?

Ken
 
Ps I went to two gunshops at lunchtime because I wanted a leather rifle sling for one of my rifles (most shops stock rubber or synthetic now) - the gunshop that had some leather slings also had a shelf of old knives they had found in their storeroom, with some decent prices to spur sales. Remembering this thread, and being the open-minded knife collector that I am - I grabbed this one to throw in the glovebox of the truck - never know when I might need to rewire my truck in order to get out of the woods! With that leather awl I can also adjust my leather sling to more precisely fit it to my rifle. OH

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GOOOOOOOOAALLL! GOAL-GOAL-GOAL-GOAL-GOAL!!

Great score, OH :thumbup::thumbup: Superb knife, and the story is even better! :D

- GT
 
I remember as a kid looking at an add for the Savage 99 in an outdoor magazine .
It had a Indian chief in full feathered head gear sitting cross legged holding the rifle out in front of him .
For a small kid living at the bottom of the world that was the coolest picture I'd ever seen .
You have just reminded me of it , and I'm tempted to look for one myself .
What calibre are you thinking of ?

Ken

Likely .300 Savage and a GEC Moose.... looking forward to seeing what jigging options are available!
 
A reasonable amount of adaptility in order to overcome potential obstacles, along with a fertile and highly active and intelligent imagination is required to see the superiority of a SAK as a pocket tool chest over all other brands. Those without the requisites will never see this reality.

My oh my... seriously... passing judgement on someone because they don't like a $12 knife as much as you do? How embarrassing... the playground just got little meaner.

I have had three or four SAKs and given them all away. Never warmed up to them myself, and I finally figured out why. First, I have never worked with the dreaded specter that haunts so many Bladeforumites - a "sheeple". I can carry what I want on the job with wild abandon.

Second, being in "the trades", I am always near my truck, with another guy in his truck, on the job, etc. which gives us access to full sized tools. If we go somewhere as a group, someone always has tools, even if it is their wife's car. On site, I found NONE of the small tools on a SAK work, operate, or are as easy to use as their full sized counterparts. I have to say though, that I know several guys in the trades that carry a small SAK on their key ring.

Third, I always look at utility value for me. Giving up pocket real estate is a big deal for me, so I took a few minutes to ponder how often I used all the tools on the SAKs I was gifted. Without exception, the only tools I used frequently was the cutting blade and the awl/punch.

So back to the stockman I went. A longer keener blade, and with a bit of grinding and reprofiling, a better awl/punch.

I have to say though, it is a bit of a conundrum for me to see how easily some folks shift gears on their opinions. They love the old world craftsmanship, the careful choice of natural materials for scales, the use of a centuries old simple carbon steel blades on their knife of choice, the idea that many human hands made their knife , the fact that the designs used by their favorite makers are many decades old, and proudly stand at attention when noting their favorite knife is made right here in America in a small, dedicated factory.

The SAKs have exactly none of those attributes, but still have a fierce (see above) following here in Traditionals.

Always interesting to see which way the wind blows around here.

Robert
 
Just talk about the knives, please. And why you do or do not like them.

Please don't berate other posters. If you think a poster has crossed into dissing somebody or their choice of knife, hit the report post button and let the mods deal with it. (triangle with exclamation point in it at the bottom left of each post.)
 
I always carry my custom keychain sak: The Midnite Manager.
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And either a Compact or a Swisschamp...
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And I use them daily... more as tools, than knives, if I need a knife blade I'd rather go for a Leatherman SkeleTool. ;)
 
I too have never really taken to the SAK,s..I know they are probably one of the most sold knives in the world for very good reason,but they just sort of lack CHARACTER??....That was until i recently picked up this beauty for a pittance....Ive been away from home on a large construction site ,and been carrying this daily...The only tool i havent used is the corkscrew (dont drink wine)....Made in France by DUCHER,awesome stag and F and F to rival any GEC,crinked main blade and just a lovely solid knife...The steel is also much harder than a normal SAK (i dont like soft steel).....I am a convert..........................FES







 
Nice one, Fes, and interesting that they put the caplifter on the can opener, not on the driver.
 
Here's the SAK that started my appreciation of them after I carried it for a couple of weeks, the Electrician (same size as the Pioneer):



Here it is beside one of my all-time favorites, the Case Small Texas Jack:


I later got an Alox Cadet, which is a bit smaller and slimmer, and it just hit the sweet spot for me. I've been carrying it pretty much daily for over a year. For the first third of this year, I carried these two daily:



I haven't developed an interest in the plastic handled ones, and other than having a spare for each of these two, haven't wanted any more Alox either.

It's all a matter of individual taste and what works for you.
 
I too have never really taken to the SAK,s..I know they are probably one of the most sold knives in the world for very good reason,but they just sort of lack CHARACTER??....That was until i recently picked up this beauty for a pittance....Ive been away from home on a large construction site ,and been carrying this daily...The only tool i havent used is the corkscrew (dont drink wine)....Made in France by DUCHER,awesome stag and F and F to rival any GEC,crinked main blade and just a lovely solid knife...The steel is also much harder than a normal SAK (i dont like soft steel).....I am a convert..........................FES


Holy cow! I can see how that knife could convert you, Fes!!
I don't have any stag, but when I grow up I want to have a knife with stag exactly like your Ducher. :thumbup::thumbup::D

The teeth on the saw are BIG; does it work well?

- GT
 
I have a challenge for the SAK fans. Recommend an SAK to replace my Opinel/Micra combination.


EDC Pair by Pinnah, on Flickr


I consider each and every tool on this combination to be a "MUST HAVE". So, the SAK I'm looking for but can't find must have the following:

+ Large main blade
+ Small pen blade
+ Robust scissors (should be capable to cut zip ties)
+ #2 Standard screw driver
+ #2 Phillips screw driver
+ Small eyeglass standard screw driver (should be long enough to reach most recessed screws on electronics
+ Cap lifter (I mentioned this is a must have, right?)
+ Nail file or metal/diamond file
+ Tweezers

Weight and carryability are issues for me. I don't mind length and am open to the 111mm frame.

Suggestions?
 
@ pinnah, I really admire your edc carry, I do. It works for you so well. But for me I have other needs that are dictated by much of the work I do. Plus since I own a Handyman business, my tools are only as far away as the van. But when I'm in an attic, or under a sink my SAK works so well, and when I say SAK, the model can change depending on the job scheduled for the following day. The saw on the Farmer is IDEAL to cut a notch in small floor and door trim. I did the very thing yesterday and the Micra wouldn't have been able to help me in that situation. But I can guarantee the Micra would in others where the SAK may not.

I can't think of what would replace your combo and if I did we could argue endlessly the size and functionality of each tool? You could go the Modification route if you wanted then price becomes an issue. I carried a Micra when they first came out for over a year---gifted many to fellow electricians. Then I found what suited my needs better---not better than anyone else's needs just mine.

A comparison of the two just doesn't work---to many uses/variations.

I TOTALLY admire your carry---I see you are a dedicated EDC of that duo:thumbup:
 
Paul,

For what you describe with the Farmer... I keep a full sized MT in my day pack in a clip on holster. Agree about the saw, but at that point, also want pliers.

But, that's a different issue.

At this point, just for pocket carry, I'm curious if there is an SAK that delivers on this set of tools. Better yet, I'm looking for the most pocket friendly SAK that delivers that combo.

I've not yet seen one but I'm in the "SAKs don't move me" camp, so I may not be looking hard enough.

Hoping to crowd source suggestions.
 
I have a challenge for the SAK fans. Recommend an SAK to replace my Opinel/Micra combination.





I consider each and every tool on this combination to be a "MUST HAVE". So, the SAK I'm looking for but can't find must have the following:

+ Large main blade
+ Small pen blade
+ Robust scissors (should be capable to cut zip ties)
+ #2 Standard screw driver
+ #2 Phillips screw driver
+ Small eyeglass standard screw driver (should be long enough to reach most recessed screws on electronics
+ Cap lifter (I mentioned this is a must have, right?)
+ Nail file or metal/diamond file
+ Tweezers

Weight and carryability are issues for me. I don't mind length and am open to the 111mm frame.

Suggestions?

The Climber Plus has everything but the file and is pocket-able. A Classic or Rambler on you key chain and you get all your needs met.

ETA: the Mountaineer is the same as the Climber but also has a full size metal/nail file.
 
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