Just received my PM2 today...It's not sharp....at all.

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The Mastiff said:
Is it really? Should I just tell you what you want to hear instead?

Do you think everybody goes through this when they have a problem with a knife? You do seem to be the type to refuse to see any actions you have taken could have affected peoples reaction to you. You seem to see it as everybody else who was wrong. They only reacted to your posts because there was something wrong with them maybe? So it seems anyhow. Only you truly know what you think.
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Do you have something you're trying to prove here Joe or are you just incapable of laying off over an utterly insignificant thread that seems to be some kind of personal affront to you? Obviously not everyone views the original poster the way you do and you've made your "opinions" abundantly clear so why not just step away from the keyboard for a bit eh? Continuing the completely uncalled for badgering of the OP and the thinly veiled personal insults isn't doing anything other than alienating a new member of the community.
 
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^ what he said !
The OP has done nothing bad what so ever. He simply asked was this normal to have a dull spyderco new out of the box. He stated this was his first spydie. Lay off him grow up its pathetic.
All this just sharpen it and carry on nonsense.

If the knife is advertised as new it should come sharp if it does not send it back !
 
Gentlemen,

Please discuss the Topic and not each other. You are in a manufacturers forum and should be respectful in your interactions and postings.
 
noseoil said:
I can't imagine anyone would buy a knife and not (sooner or later) learn how to sharpen. I'm not suggesting that a new knife has any reason whatsoever to arrive dull, just that sooner or later it will become dull from daily use.
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Few people I know outside of this forum know how to sharpen but most men in my neck of the woods carry a knife. I work with about 25 people who each carry a knife daily. None of them know how to sharpen one and they usually only bring it to me when it will not cut at all. One guy sends his benchmades back every time to have them sharpened.? Most of them have 3-5 knives of Spyderco, CRKT, or Benchmade. Heck my Dad has carried a pocketknife in his office every day of his life and I bet he has never sharpened one. I started doing it when I was 10 because my maternal grandpa the butcher taught me. Lots of people use and can't sharpen IMO.

Oh yes, OP original question. I have purchased over 50 Spydercos and all of them would shave hair off my arm. Your situation is not normal IMO. If it was returned anything could have happened to it when the original buyer had it. Sal will take care of you. I really really like Spyderco and found nothing insulting in your post. New should mean sharp.....especially a Spyderco.
 
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Apologies to the op or anyone else on this thread if I was impolite in any way...was not my intent. I have opinions (and of course i always think they are right because they are MY opinions, hehehe), but I try not to force them on anyone.

Peace, I'm outta here,

Lance
 
minimalist - Congrats on your purchase and excellent deal you made. Whether it turns out to be NIB, LNIB or otherwise it's still a good deal. Sal & company will take good care of you and if you peruse the Maintenance subforum you will be an expert at keeping it sharp yourself before long. The Endura is a classic and a good choice for your next Spyderco. I am looking forward to the Endura sprint in Aogami Super Blue coming soon.

From my experience (90+ Spydies) it would be be very uncommon to receive a new Spyderco that was dull. The only less than satisfactory edge I have ever received was on a Dodo, which is tricky to sharpen given the S shape of the edge. It was fairly sharp but had uneven edge grinds.
 
Skelator88 said:
The OP has done nothing bad what so ever. He simply asked was this normal to have a dull spyderco new out of the box. He stated this was his first spydie. Lay off him grow up its pathetic.
All this just sharpen it and carry on nonsense.

If the knife is advertised as new it should come sharp if it does not send it back !
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The problem here is that the OP knew the knife was not advertised as new, and was in fact a returned knife, that was a sold-out item at that price.

He chose to take the gamble on that returned item.

Folks here defending the fact that it's a new in the box knife have seemed to miss the fact that this knife has been through several hands before being delivered to the OP.

I have no horse in this race, as I'm not realty a Spyderco guy, more into fixed blades.

The problem I saw here was a poster not really giving the company a fair shot.

Any knife that has been through several hands can not be assumed as New In The Box.


I do love me some Spydies, but Rapid Fan Boy?, Come On. :confused:





Big Mike
 
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WOWWW!! For the what feels like the 100th time. It was advertised as new. It was supposed to be a new knife. The price was the price that is charged for a new knife. It's actually mind boggling that you still have not grasped that after this lengthy discussion. That's literally the 3rd time I've told you I was buying a new knife. I've returned plenty of things that were unused and untouched and I'm sure someone else bought them, AND THEY WERE STILL NEW. Nothing was altered.

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Folks here defending the fact that it's a new in the box knife have seemed to miss the fact that this knife has been through several hands before being delivered to the op.
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It's also absolutely hilarious that you think you know that the knife has been in multiple hands before it was returned. Just curious, how do you know that?
 
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minimalist said:
WOWWW!! For the what feels like the 100th time. It was advertised as new. It was supposed to be a new knife. The price was the price that is charged for a new knife. It's actually mind boggling that you still have not grasped that after this lengthy discussion. That's literally the 3rd time I've told you I was buying a new knife. I've returned plenty of things that were unused and untouched and I'm sure someone else bought them, AND THEY WERE STILL NEW. Nothing was altered.


It's also absolutely hilarious that you think you know that the knife has been in multiple hands before it was returned. Just curious, how do you know that?
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Your own tale tells the story of a knife that has been shipped to a dealer, then on to a customer (who rejected it for some unknown reason), back to the dealer, then on to you.

Who knows what that knife has seen?, judging it as NITB is foolish at best.

I did not in anyway attack you or your question, I just re-stated the facts of this purchase.


I feel the problem would have been best resoled by returning the knife to the dealer, and not getting Spyderco involved in this Issue, after all this knife had been passed around a bit before getting to you.





Big Mike
 
Big Mike said:
Your own tale tells the story of a knife that has been shipped to a dealer, then on to a customer (who rejected it for some unknown reason), back to the dealer, then on to you.

Who knows what that knife has seen?, judging it as NITB is foolish at best.

I did not in anyway attack you or your question, I just re-stated the facts of this purchase.


I feel the problem would have been best resoled by returning the knife to the dealer, and not getting Spyderco involved in this Issue, after all this knife had been passed around a bit before getting to you.





Big Mike
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People return things that haven't been touched and are STILL brand new all day, everyday. I've purchased plenty of things that have been opened and returned that were fine before.

I had no idea Spyderco would get involved. I also never bad mouthed Spyderco. I stated what I received. I never pointed the blame AT ANYONE.

Also, I had no idea how these manufacturer forums work. That's my mistake. I have no problem admitting that. I'm pretty new to forums and didn't realize the actual manufacturers monitor them. I thought they were specific to manufacturers and allowed discussions to only be about them and in one place. If I knew that Spyderco monitored this section I wouldn't have posted this here because I wouldn't want it to take away from them. I had heard nothing but good things about them. A little more attention to detail on my part and I would have known that.
 
Minimalist, glad to see we can finely see things as they are.

As much as that's possible in the interweb.




Big Mike
 
Why is it that the powers that be, or so they think, allow this thread to be an obsessive baiting of the OP; and why does the OP continue to bite at the troll bait? My mantra is to never, ever, be on the defensive side of a discussion.:mad:
 
Alnamvet68 said:
Why is it that the powers that be, or so they think, allow this thread to be an obsessive baiting of the OP; and why does the OP continue to bite at the troll bait? My mantra is to never, ever, be on the defensive side of a discussion.:mad:
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i like that mantra. I keep telling myself I'm not going to respond anymore but I have no self-control.
 
mqqn said:
Once again, Mr. Glesser's shiny footprints shine on a path where the footprints are not all as bright.

best

mqqn
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I thought the same thing. Really great to see Sal step in and take care of the guy.
OP could have avoided so much drama and should have locked the thread as soon as the issue was addressed though.
 
I would classify any knife that has been taken out of the box and handled as used. Would I call it "Mint"? Sure. I think you could handle and to a point, even use a knife and still consider it mint. I definitely wouldn't feel comfortable calling it new though.

minimalist,

You did say you were able to buy it because it was a returned knife, but you suspected it had been used. Now I'm confused, because you said the dealer had marked it as new. I was just curious how you found it was a returned knife. Did someone from the company email you?
 
It doesnt bother me if the edge bevels are nice and symmetrical. That's an easy fix with an hours time and a spyderco medium/fine stone (yes I suck at sharpening). What bugs me is really asymmetrical edge bevels where one is wider than the other or its a little wavy as if the guy who sharpened it had a few too many to drink last night. Establishing all new edge bevels is trickier imo.
 
When people say sharp, I never believe them.

I have never seen a factory edge that was good enough for me (sushi chef) so I polish all my knives within the first day or two.
 
StuntDouble said:
I would classify any knife that has been taken out of the box and handled as used. Would I call it "Mint"? Sure. I think you could handle and to a point, even use a knife and still consider it mint. I definitely wouldn't feel comfortable calling it new though.

minimalist,

You did say you were able to buy it because it was a returned knife, but you suspected it had been used. Now I'm confused, because you said the dealer had marked it as new. I was just curious how you found it was a returned knife. Did someone from the company email you?
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They were sold out. I reached out to find out when more would be in. I was told one was actually being returned and after inspection, to see if it was still in new condition, I could purchase it.

This whole thing is getting old though. I told my story. I didn't point blame at anyone. So I'm done posting in this thread. The problem has been solved and I couldn't be happier.

Later.
 
Ah gotcha. Now I'm wondering if the previous buyer had the same issue with the edge, and that's why it was returned.
 
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