Just slightly disappointed....noted some recent quality issues.. :-(

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Desert Hermit said:
I was curious about this myself, so I examined my three recent Sebenzas, all of 2012 manufacture, under strong magnification. I found all screw heads to have perfectly centered Allen heads, all were well and smoothly polished, and fit properly to the frames on all three knives. No issues here, on any of them. :thumbup:
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Great! ..i'll give you $2 a piece for them.
 
The screws on my Feb 2012 born small lefty are all fine, but the replacements I ordered are all off center.
 
seriously....this is about screws...off centered...really....maybe go check the lug nuts on your vehicle
 
badger 2 said:
seriously....this is about screws...off centered...really....maybe go check the lug nuts on your vehicle
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I think its more about spending x amount of money on a knife that is regarded as being as close to perfection as one could get and not having everything on it be perfect. Personally it's not something that bothers me, but its not a gigantic effort to see/understand where he's coming from. As the OP said it is a matter of principal.

Go spend $80,000 on a vehicle and let me know how out of sorts you'd be if the stitching on the leather seats were off. Just sayin:rolleyes:
 
badger 2 said:
seriously....this is about screws...off centered...really....maybe go check the lug nuts on your vehicle
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No this about the ugly fit & finish of an award winning $500 folder. ;)

I assure you I'm not trolling or I'd have started a thread, but I've had to return a large Sebenza in the past month for the same kind of stuff. A large micarta 21 arrived (made about 2 weeks previously) with the inlay on the locking side cut a bit too short. If rotated in the right direction you could see the reflection of polished bare metal, in the end of the cut-out (channel) where the inlay was cut too short.

It also had a weird recurve look, added to the 21's already slim blade profile (not good). The 21 has the tiniest amount of belly but this one - upon inspection with a cheap magnifying glass revealed that the grind was started and stopped mid blade (for Lord knows what reason)......

The grind then resumed at the same spot (the center) and completed the edge. This left the center of the blade with a tiny belly going toward the spine instead of heading away from it. I have detailed pics. The dealer took the knife back and it's now for sale again. I found that kind of troubling. :(
 
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badger 2 said:
seriously....this is about screws...off centered...really....maybe go check the lug nuts on your vehicle
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You're completely missing the point. It's not about nit picking the knife, it's about noticing subtle changes in quality that weren't there just a few short months ago.

I've followed this forum for a while now, and I've never heard of an inlay being off. In this thread alone there are two people with the issue, both being new knives. Seems like a recent change, and definitely note worthy.

Despite all this, I keep buying them. Stop me!
 
Oh and I had completely forgotten that on this last micarta knife with the softer heads, one of the male screws was one thread shorter than the rest.

I emailed Crk about it a few weeks ago but never got an answer.

Something funky is going on in the screw department.
 
Just checked my 2012 Bocote inlay large 21 and it's ok in all aspects. Centered screw heads and inlays are as good as it can get.
 
CrimsonTideShooter said:
I've followed this forum for a while now, and I've never heard of an inlay being off. In this thread alone there are two people with the issue, both being new knives. Seems like a recent change, and definitely note worthy.

Despite all this, I keep buying them. Stop me!
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Me either. I have another large 21 on it's way. I keep hitting the tracking link & it's still about 2.5 hrs from home. That means Monday. Arrgh, why don't the free shipping guys use Priority instead of 1st Class? :)
 
damn i cant believe it my mircarta also has a small gap between the ti and the inlay never noticed it ..:( ohh maan :grumpy:
 
is it the rate of inflation forcing crk to make short cuts in quality control ? :barf:
 
;)Perfection...is in the eye of the person looking on....and when "man'' makes something....it ain't perfect trust me even with all the Handmade knives that I own....none are perfect except to me!
now you add...semi - custom....that is another equation that you have to contend with...allowances in all the steps that go into making knives...and I mean all...starts at the beginning...who made the steel and the machinery...that makes these knives....MAN...so there is our issue to start....some times you just got to say ...this is good...cause there is nothing perfect that is man made! and I don't care what you paid for it!:)
 
badger 2 said:
;)Perfection...is in the eye of the person looking on....and when "man'' makes something....it ain't perfect trust me even with all the Handmade knives that I own....none are perfect except to me!
now you add...semi - custom....that is another equation that you have to contend with...allowances in all the steps that go into making knives...and I mean all...starts at the beginning...who made the steel and the machinery...that makes these knives....MAN...so there is our issue to start....some times you just got to say ...this is good...cause there is nothing perfect that is man made! and I don't care what you paid for it!:)
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This is a good point badger 2. ;)
 
I recently bought 2 Lrg 21's both with micarta one Insingo, and one with reg 21 blade so I'm up to 3 including my plain jane 21. The plain jain 21 born Nov 28 2011 the other two Micarta's were born march 29 and april 16 2012, the screws on all 3 aren't the best but the one born the earliest has the best looking screws:eek: I thought I was being anal but the inlays on both of my micarta's could be more precisely fit, theres no shiny metal seen if I shine a light but some spots on the inlay are perfect and others aren't, thats basically what it comes down to. Also part of the spine on one wasn't as rounded in two spots:( so I did it myself with a little time and a strop:confused: I didn't want to say anything until I saw this thread b/c I thought it might just be me. I think CR needs to have a talk with his staff. I'm in no way bashing here I love my CRK's and would never sell them unless for another CRK:eek: maybe CRK just needs to be made aware so he can get a handle on the situation ?
 
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This is an interesting thread. I can see the point, and it seems to be well stated. However, (and not to over-use the car analogy) if I buy an $80,000 car, I'm going to drive the mess out of it. It would stay perfect for about 10 minutes. I'm not going to abuse it, but I loose interest in the small details. I love and respect you guys who stare at knives under magnifying glasses, you keep quality in check, so thank you. And I don't collect CRK's either. But my point is, I wouldn't buy a Z06 to stare at in my garage. If you collect them I GET IT, but I do 200mph with my folders.
 
Don't get me wrong I use all my knives there tools afterall:thumbup: The only problem I have is if quality is slipping :eek: the reason I buy CRK's is b/c there known for there precise tolerances and fit and finish:thumbup:
 
Fferrell1 said:
This is an interesting thread. I can see the point, and it seems to be well stated. However, (and not to over-use the car analogy) if I buy an $80,000 car, I'm going to drive the mess out of it. It would stay perfect for about 10 minutes. I'm not going to abuse it, but I loose interest in the small details. I love and respect you guys who stare at knives under magnifying glasses, you keep quality in check, so thank you. And I don't collect CRK's either. But my point is, I wouldn't buy a Z06 to stare at in my garage. If you collect them I GET IT, but I do 200mph with my folders.
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yep. my sentiments exactly.

give up the microscope awhile people...we're not dealing with the space shuttle here LOL
 
I'm sorry to hear about some of you having some minor QC issues with the newer Sebenza.
The screws, and inlay's is a cosmetic flaw only, but like you guys, I would want my Sebenza to be tip top on arrival. The QC award they receive at Blade each year is one reason many buy them.

My oldest is from the 90's, and my newest are both micarta inlays bought back in 2005, and they are perfect in every way. Now I'm glad I did purchase an extra set of screws and pins for both of the Micarta's.
I did buy a 21 last year that was very well made. I just didn't like the 21 as much as my Classic's and regulars, so I sold it.
 
I was never using a microscope with mine or a loupe or any other magnification, mine really aren't that bad, most wouldn't notice ever, but I have seen some that are pretty noticeable. It would be one thing if thats the way it used to be but its not, its a current trend being noticed thats all nothing more. I'm contemplating my next CRK right now so its not like its the end of the world or anything. If I were buying CRK's for collection purposes I might be a little upset though, and I do plan on buying some CRK's for collection purposes only its just that I don't have the funds right now, and I have found that the more I use my Seb's the more I appreciate them:thumbup:
 
Fferrell1 said:
This is an interesting thread. I can see the point, and it seems to be well stated. However, (and not to over-use the car analogy) if I buy an $80,000 car, I'm going to drive the mess out of it. It would stay perfect for about 10 minutes. I'm not going to abuse it, but I loose interest in the small details. I love and respect you guys who stare at knives under magnifying glasses, you keep quality in check, so thank you. And I don't collect CRK's either. But my point is, I wouldn't buy a Z06 to stare at in my garage. If you collect them I GET IT, but I do 200mph with my folders.
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I'm inclined to agree, and I do the same with my large snakewood. However, the reason I bought a sebenza in the first place was because it was widely regarded as perfection. If I'm not getting perfection when I spend this much money on a knife, from a company whose renowned for having the tightest quality control and manufacturing tolerances on the planet, then there is an issue.
 
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