Just slightly disappointed....noted some recent quality issues.. :-(

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If my new small Micarta comes with a bunch of fit and finish problems, it's going to be returned.

While I agree to a certain extent to stop looking at them so closely and enjoy them... If I wanted sloppy machining and crappy components, I would buy a nearly identical knife for a fraction of the price. I paid $500+ for this knife BECAUSE of the fit and finish; I know how hard it is to get it close to perfect, and that is what I am paying for. If the fit and finish is not top notch, I am not paying top notch prices.

About cars, I have a BMW X5 that cost a little over $80,000 new, and yesterday I bought a new work car which is a 2012 $26,000 Chevy Cruze. The difference is apparent, but the Chevy is close in fit and finish in a lot of areas. It's not as nice materials, and not as nice attention to detail, and the fit and finish is not as good in the interior, the molds they used are not as smooth and they have visible seams, but the X5 is not exponentially better. There is a rule of diminishing returns on quality.

You can find a good engineer will make a product that is easy to manufacture to prevent quality problems at certain levels of pricing. A knife that for example uses overlays. This is because the quality is much easier to control. If someone wants to use an inlay, and they charge you exponentially more because of paid for an inlay that fits as good as an overlay, it better be as good, or you just wasted your money.

Finally, the best watches are almost entirely Swiss. The "best" while subjective is no doubt Patek Philippe, a Swiss manufacturer. While there are 2 notable manufacturers in Germany, Glashutte obviously, in no way are they the best, and form a very small majority of the high end market share. They form another good example, you can pay thousands for one piece then for a comparable piece tens of thousands in the luxury watch segment, and have very small differences between them OTHER than fit and finish.

Ultimately if we are paying a premium here for fit and finish due to more time being consumed in manufacturing and increasingly difficult manufacturing techniques which result in increased rates of rejected components in assembly; we have a right to expect it, because we paid for it.

If you paid for the name, who cares about the details, go enjoy your knife!!!
 
I'm inclined to agree, and I do the same with my large snakewood. However, the reason I bought a sebenza in the first place was because it was widely regarded as perfection. If I'm not getting perfection when I spend this much money on a knife, from a company whose renowned for having the tightest quality control and manufacturing tolerances on the planet, then there is an issue.

these are my thoughts exactly
 
Can we plz knock it off with all of the cumbersome car & watch analogy tales! :fatigue:
 
Can we plz knock it off with all of the cumbersome car & watch analogy tales! :fatigue:

Sorry! :(

I'm going over the pics right now of the Micarta I just bought, and I realized I'm not sure if it's the specific one I am getting. But they look good otherwise.

I would pay $5 a side for custom made screws that are perfect.
 
Sorry! :(

I'm going over the pics right now of the Micarta I just bought, and I realized I'm not sure if it's the specific one I am getting. But they look good otherwise.

I would pay $5 a side for custom made screws that are perfect.


...you have detailed the other side of the equation very eloquently, and you are just as correct...
 
Its a small world. I am also very disapointed in my CRK.
I just received a large new CF Sebenza yesterday and the action was ridiculously stiff and almost gritty like. The detent was also way too strong. Lets put it this way, out off all my Striders and customs like Lambert,Mosier,Doucette The CRK was easily the worst action. I know what a smooth knife feels like and should expect. I adjusted the pivot and its action was average to poor for a production knife. It was sent back today. I am jaded because I own a little bit of every brand but the CRK was unacceptable and I want to own at least one of every brand. Over all the fit and finish was excellent and the weight and size of blade was great....BUT the action and horrific thumb studs are a deal breaker for me. The thumb studs would be a disaster in the cold wet snow to open.

I took a couple of picks before I boxed it back up. Does this lock-up look a bit advanced for a new knife????
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The lock up looks fine. I have some at about 30%, and some about 70%. Most come from the factory over 50%. None of mine has worn one bit farther from where it was when bought.
 
Its a small world. I am also very disapointed in my CRK.
I just received a large new CF Sebenza yesterday and the action was ridiculously stiff and almost gritty like. The detent was also way too strong. Lets put it this way, out off all my Striders and customs like Lambert,Mosier,Doucette The CRK was easily the worst action. I know what a smooth knife feels like and should expect. I adjusted the pivot and its action was average to poor for a production knife. It was sent back today. I am jaded because I own a little bit of every brand but the CRK was unacceptable and I want to own at least one of every brand. Over all the fit and finish was excellent and the weight and size of blade was great....BUT the action and horrific thumb studs are a deal breaker for me. The thumb studs would be a disaster in the cold wet snow to open.

I took a couple of picks before I boxed it back up. Does this lock-up look a bit advanced for a new knife????
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In my experience, that lockup is actually earlier compared to the 20+ 2012 sebenzas I've seen recently.
 
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I try to buy my CRKs with birth dates before 2011. I don't have much experience with the new Sebenzas that are coming out of the shop now but I did purchase the large Starbenza right when they
released them. I too found the new screws to be lacking in finish. It is just a small part of the knife but it does put that finishing touch that really completes the package. The Sebenza is constantly seeing small changes to the design. Some probably due to Quality Improvement and some others due to just availability of materials.
 
Checked again. My pivot screw hole is off center. WHAT THE F$CK Christopher Reeve....
 
Crk could put screws covered in poop on a sebenza and I'd still buy it. I'll drink any kool-aid they put out to. I love their knives. Simple as that.
 
In my experience, that lockup is actually earlier compared to the 20+ 2012 sebenzas I've seen recently.

Yeah. My 2006 Classic is a keeper.

As far as the pivot screws not being perfect, I don't know, I can't get myself to care that they aren't perfect. As long as they keep the handles together and the knife working I'm fine with it I guess.

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All my screws are awsome on all my CRKs. Then again they are scews and I don't obsess about screws as long as they do their job.
 
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