I'm a troll because I wrote a bad review and don't want a free kershaw knife? If I accepted one I'm certain you'd all say I just made up this situation to get something for nothing. My goal was simply to make prospective buyers (of one specific product) aware of its limitations. I know it may seem incredible to you but there is nothing from kershaw I want. But it's true. I've been buying knives for 30 years. Nothing in the kersaw line appeals to me. It's just my taste. That's not sacrilege guys, it's just my opinion. This is supposed to be a forum: A medium of open discussion or voicing of ideas. I guess you just wanted a fan site where everyone gushes over how great it all is. Why are so many of you threatened over one post over a knife most of you didn't even decide to buy? I hope you're that protective of your own family. Mafia is a good description for your group. I wasn't going to respond but the personal attacks and the inaccuracies ticked me off. I know many more will come after this post but that's because it's all some of you are capable of doing. If you really want me gone just drop it. I have no interest in what you normally write about here. When I communicated my opinion about the carabine I was done. When you analyze it this whole site is just talking about possesions we like. It's kind of funny how serious some of you take this.
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Kershaw carabiner knife review
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Ok you have made yourself clear. You voiced your opinion and are unwilling to work with the company to allow them the chance to make it right for you because you are worried about what others will think of you if you let them do that for you and its apparently more important to you to just 'warn' others of your bad experience and write off the company and all the rest of their products based on your one bad experience and you wanted to do that with little hassle. Some members here, not necessarily fans of just Kershaw, or any one company by the way comment and you have the feeling of, 'how dare you guys comment, can't you see I just wanted to make my post to warn you and be done with it?' Hey, I can live with that. Now its done. I think it could have been done without slamming the members here or the owner of the forum with your comments earlier but whatever.
I see no reason to continue to post further on it and personally I think its time to close this thread.
STR
I see no reason to continue to post further on it and personally I think its time to close this thread.
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Thats fine. Thanks for your opinion on the product. I think everyone should just let this thread die now and part ways.
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i agree. thomas?
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Your right about that. Its no big deal that you don't like that knife/tool
you bought. I haven't bought one because isn't heavy duty enough for what I would use it for. I don't need a bottle opener but if if did i'd do some research to find a HD one.
Since this is the internet all my comments are meant in a friendly tone not a hostile one.
So, if in the end you really don't like any thing that kershaw does and your taste isn't for Kershaw knives, I don't know why you would waste your time coming here commenting on a product you don't like or care about. Why bother, I wouldn't.
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You said you didn't agree with Thomas as a mod and didn't like what happened in this thread. Okay, accepted. I don't like a lot of what's happened in it either. But you didn't leave it at that and had to put in one more jab. Explaining your motives is appreciated, but I think this veiled reference stuff is b.s. It bothered you enough to throw the rock once but not enough to back it up. What's the point of throwing that out there for everyone to wonder about and then skip the details? Do you want to somehow impugn Thomas' credibility to get back at him for what he said to you?
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Forums are for discussion, Stelths posts were designed to voice his opinion to provoke negative reactions from members which is the defintion of a troll.
Stelth is clearly not interested in discussion, by the way he does not respond to members posts. He comes to argue, he comes to troll.
Stelth is clearly not interested in discussion, by the way he does not respond to members posts. He comes to argue, he comes to troll.
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Troll. a response designed to invoke negative reactions.
That was definitely not the way you started the thread, or what you said initially, and you know it. The above statement is much less inflammatory than your first ones.
Again, not the way you started out your thread, and the wrong sub-forum, and I believe this has been mentioned several times already and been blithely ignored.
An educator and a mind reader? If you are in fact a teacher, you should be more aware of reading and analyzing content. Most of us suggested that you take Thomas up on his offer. Please take the time to read the threads posted completely before making an inaccurate blanket statement to cover them all. Furthermore, I never attacked your review, just the tone and your contradictory statements from one post to the next.
Yours as well. Again, please read ALL threads before responding inaccurately.
We are all for that, however your initial few posts seemed more reactionary than a "voicing of ideas"
I did buy one. However you seem to only respond to the critical posts, not the ones that "voiced ideas".
I don't want you gone personally. I'd be happy to see you stay and post in the manner you said you were attempting to, "A medium of open discussion or voicing of ideas." If you want to go on a rant, you can do that too, in the W&C sub-forum. Go nuts, everyone else in there does because that's what it's for.
Many of us here offered genuine suggestions, but you have chosen not to respond to those. Some have asked for pictures, because that's what people do here when describing a problem that is easier to interpret visually. You have also received an offer that most, if not all of us "regulars" have ever been offered, and you have also spurned that with your lack of response to it.
The ball is now in your court. Let's see what you do with it.
Rik
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More trolling.
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I'm sure they are not a "real" carabiner, in the sense that they're not rated to hold your weight, but they're inexpensive enough, and they look like they would be handy in situations where you didn't have easy access to more conventional knives. Like climbing (oddly enough
), or fly-fishing, or backpacking. Stuff like that. Anytime you're wearing strap gear, these look like they'd be pretty convenient.
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I think that I speak for the rest of us regulars when I say that this thread is finished.
Stelth, you already know our opinion. Sorry to be blunt, but you are a troll as others have said, so shove off.
OE, you also know our opinion. We have shared negative responses to things. Look them up. As i said in my earlier post, you made a mistake, tried to get back in good with us all, then did what you did in this thread. For all we care, have fun on your self imposed vacation. Hope all turns out well with ya, as some things suck more than they should.
Stelth, you already know our opinion. Sorry to be blunt, but you are a troll as others have said, so shove off.
OE, you also know our opinion. We have shared negative responses to things. Look them up. As i said in my earlier post, you made a mistake, tried to get back in good with us all, then did what you did in this thread. For all we care, have fun on your self imposed vacation. Hope all turns out well with ya, as some things suck more than they should.
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Here's the troll's last post at edc:
"I've had this piece of junk for over a year. I forgot about it until I came across it the other day and it bothered me that it cost $40. I wanted to warn others of what this product really is. I don't want to be bought off by accepting another product in its place like you would seem to prefer I did. If I accepted something else would that make the caribiner any better? The Thomas guy from the other site did offer me a different knife; isn't the fact he made that offer an admission of guilt? Get over yourself SPXTrader. Not everyone has to agree with you to be right. Instead of accepting something else I chose to alert possible buyers to this poorly made chinese product. It's as simple as that. You're trying to make it seem like I'm looking for trouble when that is simply not the case. I bought something, I didn't like it for valid reasons, I'm telling others those reasons. You're not going to shut me up; The only place I made an error is where I posted on the other site. Fine. Have them move my post from your kershaw love-fest to another category. But, don't be scared. It's called a difference of opinion.
Now he's saying that the generous offer made by Thomas is "an admission of guilt". Wow. And it looks like they've removed my post!
"I've had this piece of junk for over a year. I forgot about it until I came across it the other day and it bothered me that it cost $40. I wanted to warn others of what this product really is. I don't want to be bought off by accepting another product in its place like you would seem to prefer I did. If I accepted something else would that make the caribiner any better? The Thomas guy from the other site did offer me a different knife; isn't the fact he made that offer an admission of guilt? Get over yourself SPXTrader. Not everyone has to agree with you to be right. Instead of accepting something else I chose to alert possible buyers to this poorly made chinese product. It's as simple as that. You're trying to make it seem like I'm looking for trouble when that is simply not the case. I bought something, I didn't like it for valid reasons, I'm telling others those reasons. You're not going to shut me up; The only place I made an error is where I posted on the other site. Fine. Have them move my post from your kershaw love-fest to another category. But, don't be scared. It's called a difference of opinion.
Now he's saying that the generous offer made by Thomas is "an admission of guilt". Wow. And it looks like they've removed my post!
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Lol. Maybe thomas should have redisgned, tooled, and produced a new carabiner and sent it to him the next day. I think its quite clear by this point that the guy is just trying to stir up trouble. I think we are best off if we quit fueling the fire (troll).
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*ahem*
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Rather, Pile on me for my opinion, because I couldn't care less. Even "ignore list" me for my opinion, or get me banned. You guys are way to quick to jump all over people for being alittle emotional and upset. and the reaction of Kershaw on here just proves they shouldn't run a forum that's not hosted by their own site. It's overly biased and completely innappropriate in my view.
There, have fun with that
Oh...you care, OE...you care....if you didn't...you would just STFU...but you LIKE to stir up the stinky mud.
IT IS A KERSHAW forum on BladeForums, and if you think THIS one is overly biased, if the troll OP(which by definition, is someone who comes in, craps in the forum, and splits, while everyone is all frothed up) had tried this on the Busse forum the way that he did....there would be Hogs EATING him right now.
Your view is that of precocious 12 year old who can't see over the counter without a step stool....I look forward to your hiatus...the longer the better...as a matter of fact...please make it permanent!
No regards & ESADMF,
STeven Garsson
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I for one, wanted to see if he had the stones or intelligence to answer the questions posed to him about the following:
-the offer made to him by Thomas
-his contradictory statements
-his inaccurate observations
As an aside, his other forum postings make no more sense than they do here, plus he has a quote (in Latin) in his sig line which loosely translated, means "everything unknown is magnificent". So I put this to you, Stelth. before you come back here, make sure you are animis opibusque parati, because right now you seem to be argumentum ad ignorantiam. Thomas offered something which was magnum bonum, but you have decided that it is nihil agere delectat about it. By choosing to ignore the help, offers and questions, your opinion is now non gradus anus rodentum.
-the offer made to him by Thomas
-his contradictory statements
-his inaccurate observations
As an aside, his other forum postings make no more sense than they do here, plus he has a quote (in Latin) in his sig line which loosely translated, means "everything unknown is magnificent". So I put this to you, Stelth. before you come back here, make sure you are animis opibusque parati, because right now you seem to be argumentum ad ignorantiam. Thomas offered something which was magnum bonum, but you have decided that it is nihil agere delectat about it. By choosing to ignore the help, offers and questions, your opinion is now non gradus anus rodentum.
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