Kershaw JunkYard Dog II pics

Well, maybe. I'm looking at both folders right now. And one thing about them is that the blade drops pretty far down into the body of the folder so the edge sits pretty low. The only potential way I see to install a lanyard would involve taking the knife apart to take out the black rear spacer. Then you would have to replace that with two separate new barrel type spacers and discard the black one altogether. Then your lanyard could effectively be the very rear barrel.

You would have a lanyard but it would be a hidden one on the inside between the liners if you follow my train of thought, and not one drilled through from the sides of the folder. Without doing one I can't say how close the edge would be to the cord or if it would touch it or not. Thicker cord may be frayed by the very tip of the cutting edge. I just can't say. There may be a way to use a piece of black G10 or Micarta and remake another spacer with a hole in it to run the lanyard cord through and protect the cord. I'm sorry if you don't follow my thoughts on it. It would help to have a folder in front of you. I may do one of my own and see what comes out of it.
STR
 
Ok at the risk of missing Monk I went to the shop and knocked out some things on my own JYD frame lock. Must say I like it a lot better personally.

Some of these Kershaws surprise me and some don't. This one did when in the shop because I went ahead and cut 25 slices off the end of a hemp rope while out there just to get a feel for it compared to some others I've already tested. Wow. This little guy cuts pretty well and with far less effort than I expected. Works a lot easier through it than the Groove did thats for sure. Much easier on the hands, no gloves needed. Really must be the blade shape is all I can figure. This one impressed me for the size of it. Blew the Storms ( both models) out of the ball park.

Anyway, as you can see from the pics I've done what I referred to in my last post #42 where I was talking about making some new spacers for a potential lanyard. Been there done that. I'll carry it a while like this and see if the blade cuts the lanyard and get back to everyone.

Some have asked me about tip up carry on the JYD being hardened stainless. Been there done that also, inserted two 1/8" threaded slices off a pivot barrel for 2-56 screws after drilling out the #44 holes with a good cobalt and following underneat with a 1/8" one to recess the threaded inserts.

Then with the rest of the same barrel I used for the inserts I cut two new spacers and drilled those with a #44 carbide to get rid of the threads allowing the screws to slide in and out like they do on the factory spacer. Once cut to length they work just like the original only now there are two instead of one piece and now the folder is an 'open design.'

I stuck a lanyard on it for you to see how I was seeing it in post 42.

Then since some were also asking me about thumb studs, I went ahead and did one on my own just to be able to show what it would look like, where it would go and vividly picture the drawbacks as I see them.

One the detent is surpringly tougher than I thought so its a bit hard to get the blade started with my knife but once the detent lets go it is nice like any other folder.
Two, the writing on the reverse side of the blade gets wiped out in a spot and comes very close to being covered on the Kershaw name logo on the front side.

Otherwise there you have it.

By the way. I love this thing tip up. Makes the flipper a lot better for whipping it out in my opinion.

STR
 
At the risk of a scolding I did make one other change to my JYD frame lock. I've done this for forum members also but not on this one of course, just on the Buck Mayo TNT and the Dozier designed Thorn by Ka-Bar as well as a few others with what many users say is to "knock off the horns" when they ask me to do the job for them.

Can you see it in this comparison shot?

For what its worth I never buy two of anything in the way of cutlery unless I really like the knife and I like this folder, so I did get two as soon as they were available from Kershaw. This mod here was one of my own preferences in a user. I bought one to use, one to keep as a safe queen that will remain untouched. Even had Tim sign it for me.
 
Thanks STR,
Yeah, I was following you pretty well even before I got to your next post and the pics you supplied.
Got any more pivot barrels? I like open backs, matterofact I made spacers for my Emerson Comrade one time, just happened to find material that would work.
Man, I really appreciate your sharing your knowledge and abilities with us.:D
Tom

Oh yes, those red micarta scales you made for my custom Pardue are holding up well and still looking fine. :thumbup:
 
I have plenty of those barrels yes. I keep them in stock and the 3/16 most all the time. Glad you like the work.

All of the above mods could apply to the JYDII as well.

STR
 
STR inspiered me to do something also.

I cut out solid choil from the flipper - exactely finger size and it feels and looks so great now! I can not wait tommorow to post pictures of it...

I think Kershaw should consider it do same for major run.

Thanks, Vassili.

P.S. I am kind of in grinding moode right now, after regrinding Delica ZDP.
 
I have another suggestion to Tim, if you excuse me.

It seems like you carefully fit clip to the handle shape and this is why it is so comfortable. But because of this it is impossible to place it on other sides of the handle - there shape should be different. As I saw there is possiblity to put screws there in liners, so this is mostly geometrical problem not technical.

I think you may consider to produce different, additional clips for that positions, which will also fit handle shape so nicely. Nobody doing this it will be kind of new and Kershaw will win some points I guess.

Thanks, Vassili.
 
I have been wanting to choke up farther on the blade myself, mostly because I'm so used to having a choil to do that from habit but your idea is a good one Vassili. I've been just using the flipper the way it is but a little dip there almost like the Boye detent in the lock bar would sure be something to look at. May have to do that on mine to complete the look.

Now that I've got a thumb stud on there I may even have to Wave it to step it up a notch and bring it to real Emerson competition level. Like it needs help there. Honestly EKI could take lessons on smoothness from Kershaw because none that I've seen or handled have ever come straight out of the factory anywhere near this good. Only 1998 SpecWar comes close and I had to change out the washers to achieve that.

STR

STR pocket hook Wave mod attatchment
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62755&d=1163793772
 
I like for my knives to have pocket clips so I can carry them in my pocket. Tim's custom, that STR showed a few post back, has a clip that looks great. The reason I want a clip is so I can pocket carry the knife and I want that clip to be one that puts the knife all the way in my pocket. I don't really care if the clip matches up with the flow of the knife or not. If it matches and gives deep carry, then I'm all for it. I'm not a big collector and only have a handful of folders, but I'm working to add more as I type. I'm starting to get into the custom world of tactical folders and have a few makers whose work really trips my trigger. I think one thing I like about their work is the high mounted clip. The Martin Devastator I just received has a high mounted clip that puts all but 1/8" of the knife in my pocket. The JYDII is a great looking knife that I will get. Whether I will carry it will be decided by the clip and as it looks now I would not carry it. It would definately have to go to STR for a new clip. STR, is there anyway to make a foldover clip to have the entire knife to be hidden in the pocket?
I sorta got OT a bit so forgive if you will. I just wanted to explain where I was coming from when I dissed the clip on the JYDII.
 
A few observations;

Vasilli, nice write up and terrific images as always.

In regards to the clip, I have personally carried this JYD for weeks at a time, although it is a fatboy clip, I found it to be comfortable for carry and seems to go unnoticed when in use.

Of course when a new knife hits the streets, it will be critiqued, and suggestions from you all will always be welcomed.

With the current clip set up, if we were to change to tip up/down, we would need to reconfigure it completely, as the shape of the existing clip does not allow for the flip flop. We did confer with Tim on this set up, and he felt comfortable with the single set up and its overall look, I do as well.

Nice to know quality guys like STR are around should someone need an alteration to fit their specific style.

It is very agonizing (but fun at the same time) trying to establish all the details of a knife that brings out the best of a pattern, and at the same time is pleasing to the majority. IMO this is one of the toughest parts of developing and specifically finishing off a new knife. Colors, textures, size, steel, finishes, grinds, clips and much, much more are always so subjective to each individual, and that’s what makes those final calls tough ones. Knowing that the eyes and talents of Ken Onion, Grant & Gavin Hawk, RJ Martin, Lee Williams, Tim and others are there 100% of the time, eases the stress for sure.

In the future we will need to be a bit more conscience with at least a right hand up/down clip carry option. If for no other reason than to please Thom, we also need to look at lefty carry options as well:D .

Hopefully the single set up won’t keep some away from handling a really sweet design (if I do say so myself).

With these new manual flippers now hitting the streets, I will be looking for your input and thoughts on what we feel is an up and coming and overlooked category.

Anyway, thanks everybody for all the commentary.
 
Thomas W said:
With the current clip set up, if we were to change to tip up/down, we would need to reconfigure it completely, as the shape of the existing clip does not allow for the flip flop.
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Please, do 3 additional clips, similarly comfortable. It is very important for hard use - power cuts to have it not to dsturb hand! This one is ideal from that perspective, I rather have another one comfortable as this one, at the end of tha handle.

This is my flipper modification:

Kershav-JDII-013.jpg


It looks and feels better IMHO this way.

Thanks, Vassili.
 
Looks good Vassili. I was waiting for you to post up your pics before I posted my own since it was your idea and turns out we think alike. I did almost the exact same thing only on the JYD and not the JYDII

Here is some comparison shots of factory and after modifications made. Again the mods done so far are making a quick custom clip of some titanium, bead blasting it after shaping, marking and drilling proper sized holes and placing threaded inserts on the underside to screw into for tip up carry conversion.

Thumb stud placement to aid in opening should the flipper not do the job for you or the knife get dirty and gritty preventing it from working until it can be cleaned. Or if you just prefer that over a flipper. Point is it can be done.

Rear spacer replaced from one solid piece to allow for lanyard attatchment.

And finally the Vassili choil mod to the blade to aid in choking up on the blade to get more tip control. After doing this I have to agree its a lot more controlable now and much more appealing to my big basketball palming hands than the factory set up was. In fact its taken this knife from being one that would have taken a back seat to the larger model into passing it up for preference as I much prefer frame locks and thought the handle too short before the choil was added. This made the handle ample in length for me.

I do not think I'll need to do the choil to the JYDII as I find the handle to be very ample already on that model.

Cons to the mod.

Clip requires drilling holes and removing the nice curves of the factory one for one of a more utilitarian design.

The Vassili choil will wipe out the date of your folders manufacture so if that is important note it on the box before the choil mod.

The model number on the blade will be wiped off but its also one of the decals on the folder scale so no big deal. Other than this the mods were as straight forward as any and all are easily done with simple tools and some patience.

"Horns" on the spine part of the handles was removed taking off the bead blasted finish where it was ground down. I think this mod goes quite nicely with the choil.

STR
 
Wow, that choil does look good and functional to boot. You guys have really worked some magic on this!:thumbup:
 
Yep. I like the choil probably as much as any of the other mods except for maybe the horn removal. I noticed that right off the bat with the JYD. I noted it in the JYDII but being so large with such an ample handle it wasn't as evident or necessary in my opinion.

The pocket clip of course sits well with me because thats just the way most of the quality tactical knives I have are situated. The HK34, the HK29, the Emerson Commander and Mini Commander, CQC8, CQC11, Storm II and many hosts of others I feel the JYD knives can compete side by side with more on the same turf if they had tip up carry options.

I started looking around the net and at various other knives with choils and finally decided I liked the looks of the Scraper 4 and shot for a pattern like that on the JYD. I think it made the knife in conjuction with all the other mods. The only one I could take or leave is the thumb stud on this model but I can see where some would want it.

STR
 
I crank up the drill press to high speed and use a #44 drill bit in a carbide from Texas knifemaker supply. I've usually got a few of them in stock. Carbides will drill through anything upwards of 74 Rockwell with little trouble until they get good and dull. In a pinch a 3/32 will work but technically its a tad oversized for a 2-56 screw. I have done it that way and its never noticed though being slightly larger.

I know some knife makers just typically use 3/32 for that size screw because that size is easier to find than numbered drills sometimes. I usually buy all my carbides from Jantz supply because the type they sell are longer lasting than the twist drills from Texas knifemaker. Those twist drills will break apart and shatter on you so easy I rarely buy any at all in carbides except the #44 which Jantz doesn't offer in a carbide at all.

For most of my titanium and anything up to 45 Rockwell hardness I use cobalt drills which handle it pretty good and are less money. That little #44 carbide is over $10 by itself before shipping.

STR
 
Had to have it! Didn't need it for sure but after seeing those pictures, Plus found it in stock for 45 bucks! So its on the way.
 
jill jackson said:
Had to have it! Didn't need it for sure but after seeing those pictures, Plus found it in stock for 45 bucks! So its on the way.
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I am fighting myself to buy another one. I think in terms of look it is one of the best looking Kershaw model, I think it is on the top with ZT300 together in my rating. I hope they will have at some point ZDP189+Titanium scales limited run to really appretiate this beauty with top materials.

Thanks, Vassili.
 
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