Kershaw Lockbacks Made in China!!

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cj65 said:
I think it would be a riot if warranty addy was in China. Sorry, had to do that... I love my Kershaw a/o Cyclone. It broke my trend of traditional slippies into modern tactical folders and a/o's. It handled the volcanic pumice of Mammoth Lakes CA quite well, and still flips open like a champ. If Kershaw wants to stay strong by having multi level price points, then so be it. Benchmade does it too. Kershaw is a fine name brand in my eyes. It is also amazing how much Thomas W looks like Robert Deniro! The similarities are frightening.
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That is funny, got a good laugh. The resemblance is uncanny, although he looks totally different in person, he is much better looking that Robert Deniro. LOL

On the topic though, I have never really cared for the whole China thing, but I have seen some knives from Kershaw that were produced in China and some that are in progress, that I am excited about. The quality is there, and I am impressed. I have been collecting Kershaw for 25 years, so I have seen knives with the Kershaw name from Germany, Japan, Italy, USA and now China. I have yet to be disapointed with quality, there have been a few I flat didn't like but, Until something changes in their mission statement or they change the way they treat the customer, I will continue to be one of their biggest fans. The people at Kershaw really care about the customer, it isn't just lip service , like so many other large corporations. Am I a fan boy ? You bet I am , but ask yourself how many companies can keep fans for twenty five years or more ? It's more than knives, it's people that care about people.


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I'm a fan of Kershaw knives too, and proud of it.

I've yet to get one that didn't have good grinds, and an excellent heat treat. I've stated here before Kershaw was the first knife in 440A ( long ago) that I respected. They didn't treat it like a throwaway steel, and it was an excellent knife.

They've come a long way since then. We've seen S30V, 154cm, D2, CPM D2, VG10, SG 2, ZDP 189, S60V, S110V ( still a first and only for a production company. IIRC, also the first company to work and heat treat their own ZDP here in the US). Damascus too, which I still like.

Of course the development of 14C to replace the already excellent 13C. All high quality stuff, with excellent designs.

When I used to sell knives on the gunshow circut it was rare to not sell out all my Kershaw AO's.

We've had some strange complaints in this thread. To a man they've all ignored Thomas W's statement about working toward making 90% of knives in country. They also leave out what we all know. When you have a problem, It's very likely to be settled in a way that will satisfy the customer.

I guess facts aren't relevant when you are just blowing off steam. Joe
 
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cj65 said:
It is also amazing how much Thomas W looks like Robert Deniro! The similarities are frightening.
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Yeah, if Bobby D. was an albino Red Irishman, lol:D Thomas also has no lips, due to a tragic childhood accident involving an exhaust pipe, but is getting ready to have a lip-plumping...that will be good!:D

On a serious note, what The Mastiff wrote is spot on. The amount of misinformation, straight out mean-spiritedness and negativity thrown out by some, usually the patently anonymous towards Kershaw in general, and Thomas Welk in specific is embarassing and frustrating.

Thomas does a much better job than most of us would of deflecting even severe personal attacks and keeping the message on track. THAT is the mark of a cutlery professional.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Kohai999 said:
Yeah, if Bobby D. was an albino Red Irishman, lol:D Thomas also has no lips, due to a tragic childhood accident involving an exhaust pipe, but is getting ready to have a lip-plumping...that will be good!:D

On a serious note, what The Mastiff wrote is spot on. The amount of misinformation, straight out mean-spiritedness and negativity thrown out by some, usually the patently anonymous towards Kershaw in general, and Thomas Welk in specific is embarassing and frustrating.

Thomas does a much better job than most of us would of deflecting even severe personal attacks and keeping the message on track. THAT is the mark of a cutlery professional.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
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:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: not sure about the lip-plumping thing though , he might end up looking like Meg. :D
 
James0723 said:
Are you being serious? Consider that the only Spyderco knives Wal-Mart used to carry were the ones made in China. And most of the other knives they carry are made in China. Don't take my word for it, you can go to your local Wal-Mart and take inventory of where the 30 or so knives they carry are made yourself, my guess is that except for the current Kershaws (which we now know will probably change soon) all the knives are made in China.

Wal-Mart is one step up from the dollar store, you think they're being picky about anything they carry? They are only picky about one thing, "is this product cheap enough?".
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This may be true now, but I bought a couple of Spyderco Natives a few years ago made in the USA...awesome knives.
 
banana-clip said:
This may be true now, but I bought a couple of Spyderco Natives a few years ago made in the USA...awesome knives.
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The Native S30V that I bought at WalMart was most definitely labeled "Made in the USA". Just got a Native4 CF that is labeled Seki City Japan. Both are nice knives for their respective price points.

Back to the original topic, Kershaw's QC/QA is tops in the industry, IMHO. Regardless of whether their knives are made in China, Taiwan, Japan, or the USA they're going to be great knives for their price points. And their Customer Service is probably the best in the business, almost every replacement part, except the blade, is available free of charge.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
No, he actually meant to say exactly what he did say, using the casual construction of colloquial speech. "Correct" is an interesting term, but in the linguistic sense it can only apply to formal discourse.

Notice too that Tostig is a Californian, not a Canadian. Some solecisms are taken more seriously in certain areas than in others.
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As a language major, it's interesting to me how hard it is for people to get through their heads that colloquial speech is what eventually determines the grammar of a language, and the language we speak today is as a result of endless solecisms. I think you and I would get along really well Esav :thumbup:
 
Dekz said:
How is somebody outside of North America supposed to know that when somebody says "I could care less" they actually mean "I couldn't care less"? Why would we excuse something so blatantly incorrect just because it is widespread?

Pretty soon people will think that other common mistakes like "intensive purposes" and "so, fice to say" are actually correct.
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I speak Spanish nearly fluently. I learned it in high school and at the University level (and still am). I understand the Costa Rican dialect the best of all Spanish dialects because my best friend is costarricense. However, if I go to Argentina, I have little idea what anyone is saying in colloquial speech as a result of something they have there called Lunfardo (google it).

Language is fluid and constantly evolving, and as a learner of a second language, one can never really fully grasp a dialect unless they live in the region in which it is spoken.

And to make this post relevant, I have the Kershaw Half-Ton, which is made in China. I am more than pleased the the build quality and love it because of it's price point.
 
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Judging from the quality of Spyderco's Byrd line & Benchmade's red class knives, "made in china" doesn't necessarily mean what it used to.
 
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James0723 said:
This is not an emotional reason for not buying the knives Benyamin. This has a real effect, even if it's only 15% of a companies knives made in China that's still significantly hurting us by taking jobs away, and it's hurting China because those factories over there are terrible places to work and they don't pay them a living wage. If you're a business owner and have a choice, either pay more for the manufacture and use normal labor, or pay less for the manufacture but use slave labor, which are you going to choose? I as a consumer I will not support a company that exploits workers to such a degree. I would rather pay more for my products instead of buying cheap ones that I know were built on human misery and tears.
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Lmao. This post made my day. Step out of the basement & check out the world beyond fox news.
 
This is a great thread, it certainly has some highs and lows (the highs - pics of the new kershaws!). I work in the automotive tooling industry and have seen first hand the shift of products and jobs to china. That said, I think some people let their emotions get the best of them, there is absolutely no way to avoid products made in china or other countries. I think we need to re-invent ourselves as leaders of innovation and new products, the countries that copy will always be a step behind. In my opinion, kershaw is a leader in that regard. I have only been a knife knut for a short time, but have not seen another knife company introduce more innovative materials, designs, and products. If they want to balance out their production with 10% or so from foreign countries, if that helps the bottom line and allows more funds for R&D for projects such as composite blades, I am all for it:thumbup:
 
i don't care where it's made...i care about the tool in my hand and if the quality matches the price i paid for it...

i'm not going to waste any moment of my life pondering implications of usa vs. "everyone else" manufacturing issues...i'm just too damm busy...
 
Nine pages about manufacturing in China, and not one mention of whats coming in the next ten years fron India... Just Wait..

As soon as the Road and Highways are built to transport goods around the country India will become the next Major Player in Low Cost Manufacturing...
 
A few years ago I bought some Craftsman tools. I have always bought Craftsman for the quality and the lifetime warranty. I also bought a workbench with drawers. One of the tools I bought were flex head ratcheting wrenches. When I went to use one I noticed that the flex head was very loose feeling and the chrome finish was somewhat dull. It just felt cheap overall.

After a while I started putting tools in the drawers of the new bench. A mix of things, nothing really heavy. First.I noticed that the sheet metal was thin and felt a little flexible. Almost immediately one of the bottom drawers went off the track. I went to put it back on the track and all of the little ball bearings came out and scattered on the floor. I knew then I would never get it fixed right. So I put my least used tools in that drawer and from then on I just kind of yanked it out when I needed something in there and shoved it back in. I never had the time to bring the whole thing back, and at the time I did not have a truck. So I lived with it for awhile and then sold it. I got $60 where I had recently spent around $300 buying the thing.

Finally I noticed that the wrenches were made in China. It said so right on the wrench, where it used to say USA. I hadn't even looked because Craftsman was made in USA, right? No, not anymore. And I can only guess where the flimsy bench came from.

Get my point?
 
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