Kershaw/ZT - Order of KAI - Updated as Things Develop

[oregonknifenerd]

and nobody is kicking you out Kyle!

Even though I have a genetic predisposition to always be "that guy"?

I'm sure I drive Morrow, Dave, Jimmer and Thomas crazy on occasion... as well as everyone else at times.
Murray Carter did edit his video he put up on YouTtube though after I reported his asshattery and bad mouthing KAI during his presentation at the OKCA show and I like to think Wholesale Sports now carrying ZT is at least partly due to my constant badgering at 3 of their locations. I've been working on the guys at the Seattle Army Navy store as well.

Jimmer I think I'm driving crazy with questions on why particular design decisions are made and how particular things are done and understand not only the engineering but also the sales and marketing side such as costs associated with implementing specific features found in Tim Galyean's Pro models. I want to know how these decisions play in to adjusting features to be at a specific price point (can't they all be TiLTs!) and I'm really curious about how the patent and licensing plays in to all of this.

I'm also always trying to find an "in" to sit down and chat with Thomas. He's hooked me up with more than my fair share of knives, but he's a totally fun guy to chat with. Or, listen to anyway, as he is very passionate and loves to share his own thoughts on all kinds of things! Last time I was in there I asked a lot about how collaborations come about and how personality plays in to things in the very small world of knives. I asked because Thomas had posted something about Chris Reeve not much liking Thomas. I just never know what is appropriate to repeat and share and have probably let my enthusiasm get out of hand and posted things that Thomas would rather not have had me share.

Sarah [I also never know when to use real names, I won't use her last name] at KAI reception remembered who I was by my second time meeting her. I suppose the first time when Ii delivered a package for Thomas that seemed to be some sort of explosive tends to make a guy memorable. It could also be that as much of a loud mouth jack@$$ I am here, I'm quite the quiet nerd in person. I'm not your typical hipster tight jeans Portland nerd, but I'm still the shy boring guy that I'd guess is the type that many here would have picked on in high school if I wasn't a reasonably fit and athletic big guy [not so much now, just the "big" part] known for playing courteously on the ice but face pounding one of my own hockey team mates who teased me constantly as the only guy who wasn't on the team because it was a club sport and not subject to the academic requirements of public education funded sports. I've got the intellectual curiosity and social decorum of a 5 year old. I want to know everything, and will ask when I want to know something and it often doesn't occur to me that the timing or question may come off as being rude.

So I have a short life-time of experience being "that guy".. and I'd guess for being "that guy" with a reputation for long winded ranting off-topic, never succinct and often obtuse, posts like this one! I appreciate not being preemptively thrown out!

 

[Morrow]

Even though I have a genetic predisposition to always be "that guy"?

I'm sure I drive Morrow, Dave, Jimmer and Thomas crazy on occasion... as well as everyone else at times.
Murray Carter did edit his video he put up on YouTtube though after I reported his asshattery and bad mouthing KAI during his presentation at the OKCA show and I like to think Wholesale Sports now carrying ZT is at least partly due to my constant badgering at 3 of their locations. I've been working on the guys at the Seattle Army Navy store as well.

Jimmer I think I'm driving crazy with questions on why particular design decisions are made and how particular things are done and understand not only the engineering but also the sales and marketing side such as costs associated with implementing specific features found in Tim Galyean's Pro models. I want to know how these decisions play in to adjusting features to be at a specific price point (can't they all be TiLTs!) and I'm really curious about how the patent and licensing plays in to all of this.

I'm also always trying to find an "in" to sit down and chat with Thomas. He's hooked me up with more than my fair share of knives, but he's a totally fun guy to chat with. Or, listen to anyway, as he is very passionate and loves to share his own thoughts on all kinds of things! Last time I was in there I asked a lot about how collaborations come about and how personality plays in to things in the very small world of knives. I asked because Thomas had posted something about Chris Reeve not much liking Thomas. I just never know what is appropriate to repeat and share and have probably let my enthusiasm get out of hand and posted things that Thomas would rather not have had me share.

Sarah [I also never know when to use real names, I won't use her last name] at KAI reception remembered who I was by my second time meeting her. I suppose the first time when Ii delivered a package for Thomas that seemed to be some sort of explosive tends to make a guy memorable. It could also be that as much of a loud mouth jack@$$ I am here, I'm quite the quiet nerd in person. I'm not your typical hipster tight jeans Portland nerd, but I'm still the shy boring guy that I'd guess is the type that many here would have picked on in high school if I wasn't a reasonably fit and athletic big guy [not so much now, just the "big" part] known for playing courteously on the ice but face pounding one of my own hockey team mates who teased me constantly as the only guy who wasn't on the team because it was a club sport and not subject to the academic requirements of public education funded sports. I've got the intellectual curiosity and social decorum of a 5 year old. I want to know everything, and will ask when I want to know something and it often doesn't occur to me that the timing or question may come off as being rude.

So I have a short life-time of experience being "that guy".. and I'd guess for being "that guy" with a reputation for long winded ranting off-topic, never succinct and often obtuse, posts like this one! I appreciate not being preemptively thrown out!

Come to Blade next year....don't think about it....just do it.

 

[JuJu-]

The one thing I can say I do appreciate is the honesty! I have probably bugged a few myself asking questions and badgering about this and that! Hell for all I know I wasn't the intended target of this thread and have overstepped my boundaries. Oh well, untill someone says shut up I'll continue! You aren't the only "that guy"!
I must say you do seem to know alot about kerhsaw and zt. Even if it is from bugging those in the know, it is much appreciated! We all need people like you who aren't afraid to ask questions no matter who you are asking.

 

[BobSig]

Yeah, about that. It's gotten worse since my last collection picture. Loving this concept as it comes together. I may need to "start" a couple more threads to meet the conceptual guidelines though. I generally use the search function and it's tough to not find an answer or picture thread to my inquiry, but I'll see if I can come up with something. A giveaway thread may spark some interest huh? Lemme think it over.

Go start a thread, and I like the gaw idea.

I plan to start the swag giveaway this next Thursday the 25th and end it on Nov. 1
If y'all think it a good idea, one of the giveaway rules would be to suggest a name for each of the new groups.

Good gaw idea also

I too feel that having a KAI rep behind us would lend some serious credibility. On the other hand the group would need to be managed well, the last thing anyone would want is to have members acting immature and hurting the group's reputation. Not saying that would be the norm but there always seems to be "that guy"

We absolutely need a rep or someone from Kershaw, I would hope we could get someone on board right away. Part of the reason this could be a good thing is to weed out "That Guy." (Who is "That Guy"? Im more referring to the guy who starts a post titled "Crappy Kershaw." We shouldnt let that guy join)

I was thinking about this all day! I was going to say I feel we should have one of the active members get in touch with Thomas and the others, I think Dave is one too. I would feel better knowing I have their blessings rather than anger the elders. It's all about the respect!

Are we doing just a kershaw one or a Zt one? If so, we could do the Zt mafia off-shoot of the family.

and nobody is kicking you out Kyle!

We want those guys in the group too! And ya all about respect. We want you in also Kyle, we need some one to get a bottle of Jameson, go get Thomas drunk and have him un-ban himself

Dave is indeed. Others that post on occasion are kneedeep, spiralarchitect, SPXTrader, svrider3, jonnymac44, offsetlover and PG5768. Even if we do make room for some new faces it's only going to be 5 or 6 people at most.

If there is a desire to do a bigger grouping like the Beckerheads then someone should contact the Kershaw forum mods with the proposal as it doesn't make sense to do it without some support from them.

Id like to see it bigger like the Beckerheads, Ill pm jimmer5 and kershawlynda

Even though I have a genetic predisposition to always be "that guy"?

I'm sure I drive Morrow, Dave, Jimmer and Thomas crazy on occasion... as well as everyone else at times.
Murray Carter did edit his video he put up on YouTtube though after I reported his asshattery and bad mouthing KAI during his presentation at the OKCA show and I like to think Wholesale Sports now carrying ZT is at least partly due to my constant badgering at 3 of their locations. I've been working on the guys at the Seattle Army Navy store as well.

Jimmer I think I'm driving crazy with questions on why particular design decisions are made and how particular things are done and understand not only the engineering but also the sales and marketing side such as costs associated with implementing specific features found in Tim Galyean's Pro models. I want to know how these decisions play in to adjusting features to be at a specific price point (can't they all be TiLTs!) and I'm really curious about how the patent and licensing plays in to all of this.

I'm also always trying to find an "in" to sit down and chat with Thomas. He's hooked me up with more than my fair share of knives, but he's a totally fun guy to chat with. Or, listen to anyway, as he is very passionate and loves to share his own thoughts on all kinds of things! Last time I was in there I asked a lot about how collaborations come about and how personality plays in to things in the very small world of knives. I asked because Thomas had posted something about Chris Reeve not much liking Thomas. I just never know what is appropriate to repeat and share and have probably let my enthusiasm get out of hand and posted things that Thomas would rather not have had me share.

Sarah [I also never know when to use real names, I won't use her last name] at KAI reception remembered who I was by my second time meeting her. I suppose the first time when Ii delivered a package for Thomas that seemed to be some sort of explosive tends to make a guy memorable. It could also be that as much of a loud mouth jack@$$ I am here, I'm quite the quiet nerd in person. I'm not your typical hipster tight jeans Portland nerd, but I'm still the shy boring guy that I'd guess is the type that many here would have picked on in high school if I wasn't a reasonably fit and athletic big guy [not so much now, just the "big" part] known for playing courteously on the ice but face pounding one of my own hockey team mates who teased me constantly as the only guy who wasn't on the team because it was a club sport and not subject to the academic requirements of public education funded sports. I've got the intellectual curiosity and social decorum of a 5 year old. I want to know everything, and will ask when I want to know something and it often doesn't occur to me that the timing or question may come off as being rude.

So I have a short life-time of experience being "that guy".. and I'd guess for being "that guy" with a reputation for long winded ranting off-topic, never succinct and often obtuse, posts like this one! I appreciate not being preemptively thrown out!

You do have an uncanny ability to write a lot

 

[KnottyEagle]

Would love to join. Probably wouldn't be able to though. I know a lot more about knives then any of my friends, but compared to you guy's It's nothing. In the 2 months and 12 days that I've been apart of this forum, Kershaw has been the only and true company that I absolutely love. Almost as good as my love for Dodge, the Tigers, Wolverines, Red Wings, and Elephant Ears. It would be an honor to be part of a tight-knit group of Kershaw lovers. If there was a requirement for how many Kershaw's that you have to own then I would fail miserably, as I only have 1 . Am trying to fix that, my birthday is right around the corner and Christmas is 2 months and 3 days away.

 

[Adrenaline_6]

Yes, I wouldn't mind being a part of the group either. Yes, my post count is low and I am relatively knew to knives, but I come here often to learn about my new passion. I only own 2 Kershaws and 1 ZT, but as the funds become available, I know I will get more.

Maybe you should start off with core members and allow people to apply for membership and screen them individually. If you get a constant whiner, kick 'em. Simple as that...but don't become elitest and require massive Kershaw/ZT knive ownerships...you will miss out on us guys just getting into it. Everybody starts at their first knife sometime.

 

[BobSig]

Would love to join. Probably wouldn't be able to though. I know a lot more about knives then any of my friends, but compared to you guy's It's nothing. In the 2 months and 12 days that I've been apart of this forum, Kershaw has been the only and true company that I absolutely love. Almost as good as my love for Dodge, the Tigers, Wolverines, Red Wings, and Elephant Ears. It would be an honor to be part of a tight-knit group of Kershaw lovers. If there was a requirement for how many Kershaw's that you have to own then I would fail miserably, as I only have 1 . Am trying to fix that, my birthday is right around the corner and Christmas is 2 months and 3 days away.

Yes, I wouldn't mind being a part of the group either. Yes, my post count is low and I am relatively knew to knives, but I come here often to learn about my new passion. I only own 2 Kershaws and 1 ZT, but as the funds become available, I know I will get more.

Maybe you should start off with core members and allow people to apply for membership and screen them individually. If you get a constant whiner, kick 'em. Simple as that...but don't become elitest and require massive Kershaw/ZT knive ownerships...you will miss out on us guys just getting into it. Everybody starts at their first knife sometime.

I dont know what every one else will want from this, but I was thinking, Require 1 ZT for that group, and 1-3 Kershaws for the Kershaw group. If it came down to it buy a Kershaw D.w.o. for $10 to qualify. As for post count you will qualify soon enough. I think everyone would like a group where most people can join, thats the idea here.

 

[KnottyEagle]

Yes, I wouldn't mind being a part of the group either. Yes, my post count is low and I am relatively knew to knives, but I come here often to learn about my new passion. I only own 2 Kershaws and 1 ZT, but as the funds become available, I know I will get more.

Maybe you should start off with core members and allow people to apply for membership and screen them individually. If you get a constant whiner, kick 'em. Simple as that...but don't become elitest and require massive Kershaw/ZT knive ownerships...you will miss out on us guys just getting into it. Everybody starts at their first knife sometime.

+1:thumbup:

 

[chester22]

I just wanna be in the Mafia....Come on I'm from NYC and have Family in Jeerzee...thats like Mafia gold haha....

 

[2 shot]

"Please accept my resignation. I don't want to belong to any club that will accept me as a member"
Groucho Marx

 

[Elsilrac1]

Im with the OP - something a little larger than the 15 - 16 members of the Mafia would be nice. I mostly own ZT/Kershaw for the last two years after trying many other manufactures. I would love to be a part of a ZT Horde.

 

[BobSig]

PM sent to Jimmer and KershawLynda, if you feel the need to send your own you should. Tell them whats in your heart. :glee:

 

[JuJu-]

I was thinking, Require 1 ZT for that group, and 1-3 Kershaws for the Kershaw group.

SO... just trying to keep this straight since there are a few ideas out there. You are proposing a zt group, and a kershaw group seperate? And with both you are looking to make them a larger group like the beckerheads? Or were you looking for something smaller? Are you proposing one of the kershaw mods to head it up or just for their approval and whomever we appoint to head it up? Or am I getting ahead of myself, and we are still kicking around what we want?

My thoughts are make it with the stipulations you have given, and maybe make the usuall suspects as the founding fathers of it. Say the top 15 or 20 are the leaders and the rest are still members but not the founding fathers if that makes sense?

 

[oregonknifenerd]

We want you in also Kyle, we need some one to get a bottle of Jameson, go get Thomas drunk and have him un-ban himself

I decorated up the bottle I gave him. I'm not sure he ever opened it. Every time I've talked to him in person I've said more than once we want and need him here and not to let the bastards get to him. If anyone has ideas on how to get him back let me know and I'll deliver! He said he had some interest in scented candles after bad_juju or someone made a comment. If I thought he was serious and it would have convinced him to stay, he'd have a case of them already! It's just not the same around here without him. I hope for his sake though that not being here really has resulted in less stress for him and that leaving accomplished what he intended. Nobody needs additional stress in their lives if it can be so easily avoided.

I see how this could be a second job for him. For me it's a break from my day job and probably the only thing that keeps me sane at my job these days. Unfortunately it's the neurotic stressed out Kyle trying to escape work for a bit that has become my online persona not the calm collected sitting on the couch watching TV and checking in to Bladeforums Kyle! Much of that has to do with keyboards.. short messages are calm relaxed Kyle on the phone, long messages are neurotic stressed out sitting at a full size keyboard! The unnecessary carriage returns and parenthetical asides are just my regular style though. If I ever write a Unabomber style manifesto I'd be hosed because I'd be very easy to ID by my writing style when ranting.

 

[JuJu-]

Jamison Mmmmm. I love my jamison! T has good taste!

 

[solidorange]

I am definitely in for this! For determining membership, I vote for some kind of point system with several options. For example:

Score 10 points:
1 point for every 5 Kershaws owned.
1 point for every 3 ZT's owned.
1 point for every modified Kershaw/ZT owned.
1 point for every "Knife of the Year" owned.
1 point for every year of BF membership.
1 point for every 200 posts.
1 point for every 50 posts in the Kershaw section.
1 point for every 10 threads started in the Kershaw section.
1 point for a recommendation from a current club member.
1 point for a paid BF membership.
2 points for a gold BF membership.
3 points for visiting the Kershaw factory.

etc.

 

[kershawguy]

I am definitely in for this! For determining membership, I vote for some kind of point system with several options. For example:

Score 10 points:
1 point for every 5 Kershaws owned.
1 point for every 3 ZT's owned.
1 point for every modified Kershaw/ZT owned.
1 point for every "Knife of the Year" owned.
1 point for every year of BF membership.
1 point for every 200 posts.
1 point for every 50 posts in the Kershaw section.
1 point for every 10 threads started in the Kershaw section.
1 point for a recommendation from a current club member.
1 point for a paid BF membership.
2 points for a gold BF membership.
3 points for visiting the Kershaw factory.

etc.

I think I have a million points, LOL

 

[solidorange]

I think I have a million points, LOL

by that chart I am at 42, lol. you will probably have the high score forever Dave!

 

[sticktodrum]

Well, I'm visiting in the spring. Considering I live in NYC, that should net me some more points.

Also, I'm a minor YouTube celebrity, so I bring a bit of prestige to this motley crew, yes? Indeed! Just watch. I'll make Thomas come back. He'll have no choice after I speak with him.... bwahahahahaha!

 

[Orion's Belt]

I'm in for this.