Knife discrimination

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Danke42 said:
Why isn't the cap lifter auto also?
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that's an interesting point,
i can attest that i pull out
a sak's screw driver/lifter more...
also that brings to mind the colonial
switchblade
it would be more life saving to have
the line cutter in auto rather than
its auto knife blade....
besides, that could help make the
safety knife available, unrestricted..
 
The Aflac Duck said:
My EDR:

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This guy is clearly an optomist! Lol
 
herisson said:
Good for you and good for your engagement. The "racist" angle, though, about knife laws, comes off as utterly stupid. Sorry. Wrong angle. Talk discrimination poors vs riches, country folks vs town folks or whatever sociological angle... Sounds silly to me but you could have a point, maybe. Not holding my breath, though. Are you a sociologist ? This sounds like one of those grating social crusades we get a lot lately. Except yours is crusading a micro niche where people are pretty much standing their ground and doing their stuff whatever the world may blabber.
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While I don't know enough about where these stupid @ knife laws come from, I do have to agree that it is entirely possible because some gun laws (I know this isn't a gun forum) were enacted to target a specific race of people.

If I remember history correctly, CA would be a good example of this - I believe open carry was legal UNTIL the Black Panthers began armed patrols of their neighborhoods. So... yea, some laws are made to impact one race (imagine a law against cheese)

Luckily I work in an environment where knives are extremely common and while we do have the "never more than 30bux" guys, they are the minority. Most are carrying Benchmade, Microtech, etc. In fact you would have to be rocking a Hoback custom or something before anyone was wow'd.

Plus, when you spend all day with a rifle slung across your chest, the only folks who notice your knife are other blade junkeez.
 
Legendary_Jarl said:
That's the way people in Mexico think. Down there you can't even have a SAK. If you do you're a 'bad guy'.
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I have a good friend, who has family down there, ... believes this mostly applies to younger city folk, but out in any rural areas this isn't the perception. Anyone working around a farm always has something and it's never a big deal.
 
I understand the points several people have made but I don't get how a law (which applies to everybody, right ?) could target an ethnic group. Everybody uses knives (any sort of), so... everybody is impacted. Because, wait for it... drumroll... the law applies to all.
 
herisson said:
The problem is, sorry to say so, you "believe". And you're wrong. Whenever discussing real world facts, you should not "believe". You should think it over and present a new approach of the problem in question, based on facts and backed up with sound reasoning. That's first stage. Wanna discuss the law ? Up your game, up your game, little bug.
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How is him “believing” something a weaker argument than you simply saying “you’re wrong”?? If you want to debate a point, it helps to have a counter point, instead of just calling someone a little bug.
herisson said:
I understand the points several people have made but I don't get how a law (which applies to everybody, right ?) could target an ethnic group. Everybody uses knives (any sort of), so... everybody is impacted. Because, wait for it... drumroll... the law applies to all.
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Let me try to explain. Certain laws throughout history have been made that were “racist” or done with the intent to have more impact on people of different races. Some of these laws were OVERTLY racist (like “black people must enter through the back door”), and have fortunately been expunged from our law books.

Other laws have been made that would work “indiscriminately” against people of any race, but were intended to have a greater impact on people of non-white races. There are many examples (some which as you say have already been mentioned above) of this type of law. Another example is ~100x harsher sentencing for crack cocaine vs powdered cocaine. These laws are more difficult to identify/classify as racist perhaps, and it’s true that not everyone that agrees with these laws is racist, but it’s frankly naive to “believe” that these laws aren’t around or weren’t originally passed with racist overtones.
 
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herisson said:
I understand the points several people have made but I don't get how a law (which applies to everybody, right ?) could target an ethnic group. Everybody uses knives (any sort of), so... everybody is impacted. Because, wait for it... drumroll... the law applies to all.
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Good point, and another good point by scdub scdub . The main issue is selective enforcement of the law. For example: some Jim Crow Era gun control laws (I believe in Virginia and/or SC) required a permit issued by the local sheriff in order to purchase a handgun. The law applied(s) equally to all, however most black applicants were denied permits while most white applicants were approved. On paper the [misguided] ban applies to all, but in practice not so much.

Regarding knives, I recall a thread from a few years ago where a member from NY discussed his experiences in NYC where any switchblade, flipper and assisted opener was illegal to carry (at least at the time). He could generally carry whatever he wanted, within reason, and was never hassled by police. Meanwhile tradesman were routinely stopped, searched, arrested, charged and fined for carrying illegal knives because cops noticed a pocket clip. Granted, some people can get away with seemingly anything by exercising a certain level of discretion, however the result is the same: [x] group of people can be prosecuted more often than [y] group for violation of the same law.

I am certain that we could drop into a very deep rabbit-hole discussing unequal application of laws, but I don't think this is the proper forum or the intent of the OP.
 
Yo Mama said:
I literally had someone tell me I don't have EDC knives, I actually have EDR (every day robbery) knives. What???

They proceeded to tell me that Microtech otfs and any "razor sharp" knife with a flipper is just to rob, stab, or hurt people, and has no place in society,.....but that if I wanted a serious knife that I can only have a Victorinox.

May be the most narrow minded bull I've heard in a while, and to me the person was trying to equate any knife (other than a sak) as a weapon of violence and destruction. I let them know to look up hoplophobia, as they have it bad.

Knife laws have racist and discriminatory roots, I have no patience for narrow minded lack of critical thinking. Makes me even happier to have joined Knife Rights.
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I make a point not to speak to stupid people unless I absolutely have to.

Hopefully you can do the same and cease speaking with this person.
 
oldmanwilly said:
I'm sure many of us have seen this delightfully misguided sculpture constructed from knives collected by anonymous dropboxes and police seizures from crime scenes/patdowns/etc. It's an art installation designed to encourage Britons to surrender their cutlery. Informed observers will note the vast majority of these knives are kitchen knives, likely including more than one Victorinox paring knife. But sure, my Kershaw Leek is more menacing.

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I guess that's supposed to look like an angel or something benevolent. I think it looks extremely malicious and demonic.
 
In the 90s a manager commented on the knife I carry and was using. That it could be against the companies weapons policy.
I explained I have carried a knife since I got my Cub Scout knife.
I also pointed to tools and other objects that could be used as weapons around us.
Danger is in a person's intent not what they have or carry.
Our district manager also there told the manager.......stop looking for issues or problems.
 
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