Knife discrimination

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Yo Mama said:
I literally had someone tell me I don't have EDC knives, I actually have EDR (every day robbery) knives. What???

They proceeded to tell me that Microtech otfs and any "razor sharp" knife with a flipper is just to rob, stab, or hurt people, and has no place in society,.....but that if I wanted a serious knife that I can only have a Victorinox.

May be the most narrow minded bull I've heard in a while, and to me the person was trying to equate any knife (other than a sak) as a weapon of violence and destruction. I let them know to look up hoplophobia, as they have it bad.

Knife laws have racist and discriminatory roots, I have no patience for narrow minded lack of critical thinking. Makes me even happier to have joined Knife Rights.
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This is why I refer to our hobby as a “secret art.” We only talk about our madness with others who share the same madness. :D
 

Yes , and also now all knives except SAK are "murder , death weapons " ! :eek:
 
Yo Mama said:
I literally had someone tell me I don't have EDC knives, I actually have EDR (every day robbery) knives. What???

They proceeded to tell me that Microtech otfs and any "razor sharp" knife with a flipper is just to rob, stab, or hurt people, and has no place in society,.....but that if I wanted a serious knife that I can only have a Victorinox.

May be the most narrow minded bull I've heard in a while, and to me the person was trying to equate any knife (other than a sak) as a weapon of violence and destruction. I let them know to look up hoplophobia, as they have it bad.

Knife laws have racist and discriminatory roots, I have no patience for narrow minded lack of critical thinking. Makes me even happier to have joined Knife Rights.
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If he would have said that to me, I would have said "sir, I am pretty sure that if you thought I was a knife wielding robber, you would not have had the gonads to confront me in such a rude and bigoted manner"
 
not even allowed to carry a small swiss army knife in oz, all about context. they even busted some old farmer after a random breath test for the small folder he had been wearing for ever! meanwhile after a recent crackdown on youth they proudly displayed their haul of crappy kitchen knives and box cutters, not a single quality blade to be found, nor a police officer to be found whilst being stabbed by one of these youths.
 
Yo Mama said:
I'm the op, I post what I want. If it bothers you move on. (But you just can't help yourself, have to be the focus of attention.)

Posted on a knife site......about knives!

Knife laws are racist in origin, so I choose to stand against anti knife thinking while you want to minimize it cool, guess every one knows where we each stand.
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I think you may have a definition of "racist" that differs from how the term is generally used. If, for example, a specific group of people (based solely on race/color/creed/ethnic background) were prohibited by law to posess knives, then yes, that knife law would be racist. But I don't think that's what you're talking about.

"Racism" is just one category under Discrimination. I believe what you are saying, is that some people discrimate against knife owners. Definitely they do, same as towards gun owners. And just like firearms, there is an increased fear level if the knife is tactical/military/weapon-like/black as opposed to a "tool" even if the same thing can be accomplished with both. The fear level also increases with blade length, even though a 4 inch blade can be just as effective a weapon as a 7inch one, and perhaps even moreso because of concealability.

But while "racism" is the not the correct word, there lies the common denominator in all forms of discrimination, ignorance and the fear that it spawns. Just as when one learns about guns, there is no fear of the gun itself, the same applies to knives. The only thing to "fear", if called for, is the person wielding what is nothing more than a tool.

In just about every country there are knife laws and many have become very strict, mostly through kneejerk reactions to incidents of criminal use.
 
Yo Mama said:
Knife laws have racist and discriminatory roots, I have no patience for narrow minded lack of critical thinking. Makes me even happier to have joined Knife Rights.
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Good for you and good for your engagement. The "racist" angle, though, about knife laws, comes off as utterly stupid. Sorry. Wrong angle. Talk discrimination poors vs riches, country folks vs town folks or whatever sociological angle... Sounds silly to me but you could have a point, maybe. Not holding my breath, though. Are you a sociologist ? This sounds like one of those grating social crusades we get a lot lately. Except yours is crusading a micro niche where people are pretty much standing their ground and doing their stuff whatever the world may blabber.
 
That does suck. I don't get a lot of flack in Indiana as our knife laws are basically "no ninja stars", and to be honest, the discretion of LEO here tends to err on the side of not being too overly aggressive...at least to me a middle aged white guy.

I have used my Microtechs without a hassle. I usually go with an Ultratech if I am trying to be more discrete.

I did have a car salesman 16+ years ago flip out over my Vic Fireman. My future wife and I were looking at purchasing a used Honda Civic for our first car together. Some idiot at the lot had tied and trippled knotted balloons to the mirror. Our salesman did not have anything to cut the ribbon with (and was also missing one of his arms), so I pulled out the Vic and used the blunt, curved, serrated blade that is specifically included on the knife to cut straps safely to gently get under the knot and sever the ribbon.

The guy got wide eyed, "whoooa, is that from your ghetto days?" Really? I guess I should have asked him if his hook hand resulted from his days privateering in the Royal Navy.

He would have really freaked out if he had caught a glimpse of the 12" khukuri on my belt that was under my over shirt:)
 
DocJD said:

Yes , and also now all knives except SAK are "murder , death weapons " ! :eek:
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Um that's murder death kill. Would you like to accompany me to Taco Bell?

Next time someone asks you why you are carrying a knife/weapon of death/etc just tell them "Well its a lot more useful than carrying a baseball bat. I can open packages, cut rope, zip ties, etc and protect myself if I absolutely have to. The baseball bat isn't nearly that useful."
 
I will clue you in... They go to Pizza Hut. No kidding ! It's still all out murder in the end... of course.
 
herisson said:
Good for you and good for your engagement. The "racist" angle, though, about knife laws, comes off as utterly stupid. Sorry. Wrong angle. Talk discrimination poors vs riches, country folks vs town folks or whatever sociological angle... Sounds silly to me but you could have a point, maybe. Not holding my breath, though. Are you a sociologist ? This sounds like one of those grating social crusades we get a lot lately. Except yours is crusading a micro niche where people are pretty much standing their ground and doing their stuff whatever the world may blabber.
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Hey man, thanks for the input. I'm definately no socialist. I believe however with evidence that laws specifically drug or weapon laws were developed to target minority communities and were developed as racist in origin. Drug laws for example with marijuana stemmed from Mexican migrants dancing with the city women. Guess who they went after in much larger number? Same with weapon laws, knife laws, ect......just a way to stack charges on "undesirables".

Just because the law affects everyone, it was not equally processed.

So in my original post, I was not trying to infer that I was discriminated against, my knives were though, by someone who has bought into the garbage thinking a knife is solely to harm others. And this has been taken from historical context to be rooted in divisive hateful rhetoric that affected countless lives.
 
Steely_Gunz said:
That does suck. I don't get a lot of flack in Indiana as our knife laws are basically "no ninja stars", and to be honest, the discretion of LEO here tends to err on the side of not being too overly aggressive...at least to me a middle aged white guy.

I have used my Microtechs without a hassle. I usually go with an Ultratech if I am trying to be more discrete.

I did have a car salesman 16+ years ago flip out over my Vic Fireman. My future wife and I were looking at purchasing a used Honda Civic for our first car together. Some idiot at the lot had tied and trippled knotted balloons to the mirror. Our salesman did not have anything to cut the ribbon with (and was also missing one of his arms), so I pulled out the Vic and used the blunt, curved, serrated blade that is specifically included on the knife to cut straps safely to gently get under the knot and sever the ribbon.

The guy got wide eyed, "whoooa, is that from your ghetto days?" Really? I guess I should have asked him if his hook hand resulted from his days privateering in the Royal Navy.

He would have really freaked out if he had caught a glimpse of the 12" khukuri on my belt that was under my over shirt:)
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Your ghetto days......😆 geeze man!
 
The problem is, sorry to say so, you "believe". And you're wrong. Whenever discussing real world facts, you should not "believe". You should think it over and present a new approach of the problem in question, based on facts and backed up with sound reasoning. That's first stage. Wanna discuss the law ? Up your game, up your game, little bug.
 
Steely_Gunz said:
That does suck. I don't get a lot of flack in Indiana as our knife laws are basically "no ninja stars", and to be honest, the discretion of LEO here tends to err on the side of not being too overly aggressive...at least to me a middle aged white guy.

I have used my Microtechs without a hassle. I usually go with an Ultratech if I am trying to be more discrete.

I did have a car salesman 16+ years ago flip out over my Vic Fireman. My future wife and I were looking at purchasing a used Honda Civic for our first car together. Some idiot at the lot had tied and trippled knotted balloons to the mirror. Our salesman did not have anything to cut the ribbon with (and was also missing one of his arms), so I pulled out the Vic and used the blunt, curved, serrated blade that is specifically included on the knife to cut straps safely to gently get under the knot and sever the ribbon.

The guy got wide eyed, "whoooa, is that from your ghetto days?" Really? I guess I should have asked him if his hook hand resulted from his days privateering in the Royal Navy.

He would have really freaked out if he had caught a glimpse of the 12" khukuri on my belt that was under my over shirt:)
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Damn that's like asking a girl if those are the clothes she wears to go slumming.
 
I hope the people dismissing the racist origins of weapon control laws in the US aren't knee jerking because of the penchant of so-called social justice warriors to label anything they don't like or with which they disagree as "racist." Laws restricting weapons were very much part of the Jim Crow laws following the Civil War (aka War of Northern Aggression 😁), which were actually racist by intent and in effect, as opposed to 99.999% of the things and people labeled as "racist" in our current beleaguered culture. People who are active in securing and restoring gun and knife rights have known this (and documented it) since long before everything became "racist."
 
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