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Knife in a gun fight.

I like how you automatically make the assumption that I'm a liberal (maybe it's because I can spell). My views are generally libertarian leaning right, and I have absolutely no problem with what that marine did, I commend him, and I wish that I could honestly say that I have the ability to do just what he did. As far as your post goes, it should be edited (at least for the language, which you used again in your last post, because apparently the few rules of this forum are pretty hard to comprehend). And I never said that you were racist because you said "black", but because you claim that Atlanta is run by blacks who are out to "f***" the white man.
 
I deal with this garbage everynight of the week. It's good to see somebody fight back in a justified way!
 
needle, spelling has nothing to do with your political preference - LMAO. first things first. i called you a liberal because you did what moronic liberals always do, they throw the race card. and it is BS. i will apologize for my language if you were offended, and will edit that. however, as far as my post being racist, you are wrong. in atlanta, it is a fact man. look, i am from southeast tennessee, my mother works for delta air lines out of atl. and it is a fact whether or not you choose to admit it... in atl, blacks have it somewhat better than whites. its not racist. its a fact and that is ok. how you would know how things are in atl when you are from massachusetts, is beyond me. once agian if the language offended you, i apologize. but those who cant handle a few choice words on an internet forum from time to time, shouldnt own guns... or blades. just my thoughts.
 
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Let me help state what you are trying to say mesmdz.

The outlook in the Metro Atlanta area is very anti-gun/anti-knife. Metro Atlanta has a large population that likes to blame others for the squalor they live in. Sadly what will probably happen is that someone will come along and try and
sue this Marine for the death of this pregnant teen. Nevermind the fact she was trying to Rob him at gunpoint or possibly has a past criminal history or drug problem. Good example was when Mayor Bill Campbell was taking part in a lawsuit vs gun manufactuers and cited the accidental shooting of a little girl by her older brother. He kind of forgot to mention that the parents were crack dealers with guns and drugs laying around the house, but yeah it's the gun manufactuers fault. Regardless I am glad the Marine is OK and I can only hope the others involved get punished.

See all that said without coming off like you are racist. This did not happen because they were Black, it happened because they were idiots.
 
meshmdz said:
amen!!!

first of all, damn liberals who want to blame crime on weapons. they are uneducated and are merely looking for a crutch.. they are mindless fools, all the way around. secondly, this man is a hero! i hope if i were attacked by a group of thugs, i would have the same reaction.... something i thought of, the man was probably seeing his life flash before his eyes when he saw 4 people get out of the car, 2 with guns, so he drew his weapon and felt he had nothing to lose and the bloody knife fight insued. i would say he will be sued in civil court for a wrongful death or some stupid bullshit like that... atlanta is run by blacks and chances are if this fella is white, he is going to get fucked... :jerkit: :thumbdn: this is a great story for knife buffs. thanks for sharing it with us!

well there's a video interview with him, I don't think he is white

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/9290011/detail.html
 
I do not understand what his race has to do with his actions.

(other than the reaction from some mis-guided souls:D)

According to the ATL police, there will be no charges placed against the man by the city.

He is not happy about doing what he had to do even though he had to do it to protect himself after attempting to flee. He was confronted attempted to flee, and had very little choice as far as I am concerned.
 
meshmdz said:
needleremorse, i suggest you wisen up. i made NO RACIST comment. only fools like yourself, obviously, take cheap shots and spew liberal bullshit and throw the race card. here is the truth. 91% of METRO ATL (that means within the city limits) is of african descent. so it is safe to safe that about 88% of that 91% is black. now before a liberal like yourself says i am racist because i said BLACK, sit down and learn the facts. what i stated in my post is NOT going to be editted. it is truth. the assailants were black. they jumped another human being. ok. are you still with me? now, he retaliated and killed 2 of them, according to fox news. he was let off because the detectives saw that he was in the right. so telling me to speak in your cheese and whine language and calling my posts racist shows that you are a fool. once again, stop reading the new york times and hilary rodham clinton bullshit and wisen up.

Uh not sure where you get those stats but they are not close to the truth, I live in the Atlanta area. Seems to be a lot of uninformed information in this thread and very little facts or wisdom.

http://atlanta.areaconnect.com/statistics.htm

Sit back and think what the area would be like without the huge impact Atlanta has on the South economically.
 
The local bed-wetting fish-wrap ran the headline yesterday: "Former Marine kills pregnant robber". No wonder the Atlanta Journal's circulation is in the toilet.

I have lived in Georgia my entire life. The 6th generation from the same county and 4th generation UGA alumni. That said, I hate Atlanta from my very core. It has nothing to do with race and everything to do with the "three C's" : Corruption, Criminals and Carpetbaggers.
 
So what should you do in this situation? You're running down the street, being chased by 5 people, 2 of which you know have guns (one being a shotgun), and you have a folder in your bag. Do you keep running or do you stop like this Marine did after getting out your knife?
 
I am glad the Marine survived, that his will to live prevailed.

I feel no pity for the criminals who attacked him. I'm sure that they weren't driving mommy's caddy on a thrill ride as someone suggested - it's reported that they have been linked to other similar, but successful robberies in the same area.

In my opinion, they got what they deserved, and less than what I would wish upon them...

+1 for the Good Guys(tm) on this one.

Semper Fidelis,

John
 
ralphus said:
So what should you do in this situation? You're running down the street, being chased by 5 people, 2 of which you know have guns (one being a shotgun), and you have a folder in your bag. Do you keep running or do you stop like this Marine did after getting out your knife?

depends, can I outrun a Cadillac? if not, then I guess I have to stop when 2 of them get out of the car and grab me, like what happened to Autry.
 
hardheart said:
depends, can I outrun a Cadillac? if not, then I guess I have to stop when 2 of them get out of the car and grab me, like what happened to Autry.

Oh, from the video clips, it sounded like Autry only stopped once he retrieved his knife.

The real question is, do you risk being shot in the back by a bunch of kids while running, or do you turn and face them with a knife, knowing that you now have put them in somewhat of a life-or-death situation (and all the aggression that comes with that) and they have guns?
 
from what I gathered from another article, Autry was confronted, kicked the shotgun, ran, got his knife, and then 2 of them attempted to tackle him-who he stabbed. I think running away and grabbing the only available weapon after having a shotgun pointed at you is about the best response we could expect from anyone.
 
ralphus said:
Oh, from the video clips, it sounded like Autry only stopped once he retrieved his knife.

The real question is, do you risk being shot in the back by a bunch of kids while running, or do you turn and face them with a knife, knowing that you now have put them in somewhat of a life-or-death situation (and all the aggression that comes with that) and they have guns?

Brother, from what I gain from the reports, Autry ran - and was chased by the criminals.

Check the facts - he fled, was chased, retrieved his means of self-defense, and began his defense at contact distance.

What would I do? My magic 8-ball is broken, but I'll attempt to describe my intent by saying that I hope I have the presence of mind to move, defend and communicate. 5:1 are sh*tty odds... not for the faint of heart. I hope I move before I faint.:D

Seriously though, you ask **knowing that you now have put them in somewhat of a life-or-death situation (and all the aggression that comes with that) and they have guns?** - Buddy - It started out that way - the only thing that Autry or I would have done at that point would be to arm myself with a tool to better even the odds. Deadly force was authorized and present with the criminals exiting their vehicle and making their intents known...

That Autry moved the place of conflict, either accidently or purposefully, was brilliant. He split his adversaries, and improved his odds. He armed himself. He countered when they attacked. He prevailed. There is nothing wrong with that course of action in my opinion.

Best regards,

John
 
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