Knife people should know better!

50% of the people in this country are morons? No, I'm afraid it's MUCH higher than that. Just based on the number of drivers I see texting on the highway while tailgating every day is WAY over 50%.
 
This problem is easily solved... Buy that lot of 500 knives for 3 easy payments of $29.99 or whatever it is that they're always hawking in infomercials and when someone asks "Can I borrow your knife?" you reply with, "No, but you can HAVE this one." and then give them the infomercial garbage.

I've done the same thing with pens for years. After having a bunch of $50-100 pens "borrowed" permanently I started carrying a stick pen or two to give away rather than lending the one I use myself.
 
If it's a pocket knife, leave it in your pocket until actually needed. Problem solved.

Too many fools around today. Pride of ownership can and should be a private thing at times.
 
Ryanol said:
The bottom line is: etiquette is subjective...if it really bothers you that much you probably should politely decline a request to chicken finger your knives.
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+1. If your knife is that delicate, or you are seriously that worried or get upset when someone does something that you dislike with the knife don't hand it to other people! If they ask for it "politely decline" or lay down some rules first to save yourself some heartache, and bellyaching later..

Ryanol said:
Ppl don't know its disrespectful to wrist flick, non knife people certainly don't and a large portion of knife ppl don't either.
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It's best to assume the person your handing your knife too has less stringent ideas about etiquette than you do. That's all I'm saying. If your concerned about your knives ability to handle a drop or wrist flick you might be better off leaving it in the safe or keeping it in your pocket.
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Agree again. If you have all of these (seemingly silly to a non-knife person) rules for your knife why are you even handing it out without explaining them? I can understand being like "here check this out, but don't touch this part or ..." or "yes you can use it, but don't do this with it..." But not just handing it to them with no explanation at all and then being butthurt because they wrist flicked or couldn't close it quickly enough to suit you.

It is exactly like handing someone a loaded firearm. You are the one to blame when they inadvertently place their finger on the trigger, when they take possession of the weapon.

Remember, movies and television are the extent of most of these non-gun and knife people's experience with the weapons (tools). They have no idea how to use them, a vague grasp at how to be safe with them, and certainly no clue about your personal etiquette rules.

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Leftytwogunz said:
+1. If your knife is that delicate, or you are seriously that worried or get upset when someone does something that you dislike with the knife don't hand it to other people! If they ask for it "politely decline" or lay down some rules first to save yourself some heartache, and bellyaching later..



Agree again. If you have all of these (seemingly silly to a non-knife person) rules for your knife why are you even handing it out without explaining them? I can understand being like "here check this out, but don't touch this part or ..." or "yes you can use it, but don't do this with it..." But not just handing it to them with no explanation at all and then being butthurt because they wrist flicked or couldn't close it quickly enough to suit you.

It is exactly like handing someone a loaded firearm. You are the one to blame when they inadvertently place their finger on the trigger, when they take possession of the weapon.

Remember, movies and television are the extent of most of these non-gun and knife people's experience with the weapons (tools). They have no idea how to use them, a vague grasp at how to be safe with them, and certainly no clue about your personal etiquette rules.

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Hmm, Im not sure if I will agree that movies and media are to blame for how people use stuff. One of the first things I was taught growing up was that TV is fiction. If my only knowledge of something is from what I saw on television then I can openly admit I know nothing jon snow.
 
Purple, you are not the non-gun and knife people I was referring to. I am talking about the general public. Most everyone reading this thread at least has some grasp
that knife etiquette exists whether they choose to use it or not.

Even TV/Movie producers get it wrong all the time. I would think that if you were producing a military or police type show or movie you would at least have an adviser
on hand so you get the weapon stuff right. Notice how every time the gun is presented in the movie you hear the click-click sound of them racking another round in the
chamber, even though that would just dump out a perfectly good round onto the floor? The hero never running out of ammo, one shot kills, instant knife deaths? Some
people think that crap is true to life, so as long as they don't shoot or stab themselves not many other safety rules come naturally to them. Unless they are taught how
they will not know to keep that finger off of the trigger until ready to fire or hell, there was once a person on the green forum who had to post how much he loved his
new Strider folder but as embarrassed as he was he could not figure out how to close it. This from a guy who just spent 4-5 bills on the knife.

Not going to go too much further in this post, but I certainly believe that movies and media influence how people use stuff, not necessarily to blame for it.
Since you made a random game of thrones reference, I will present this related fact:

"Is Khaleesi to the 2010s what Kim and Jennifer were to the 1970s? Not yet, but the made-up title of the "Game of Thrones" dragon-mother is popping up on baby-name charts, according to Social Security Administration data crunched by Vox.com...

In 2012, 146 babies were named Khaleesi... Arya, the youngest girl of the "Game of Thrones" Stark family, is also seeing her name climb the charts, Vox notes, with close to 800 girls getting that name in 2012"
http://www.today.com/parents/dragon-babies-unite-khaleesi-more-popular-name-betsy-2D79509123

If people are willing to name their children after a TV show character I'm pretty sure some of them think they can do some of this crap with our knives.
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Leftytwogunz said:
Purple, you are not the non-gun and knife people I was referring to. I am talking about the general public. Most everyone reading this thread at least has some grasp
that knife etiquette exists whether they choose to use it or not.

Even TV/Movie producers get it wrong all the time. I would think that if you were producing a military or police type show or movie you would at least have an adviser
on hand so you get the weapon stuff right. Notice how every time the gun is presented in the movie you hear the click-click sound of them racking another round in the
chamber, even though that would just dump out a perfectly good round onto the floor? The hero never running out of ammo, one shot kills, instant knife deaths? Some
people think that crap is true to life, so as long as they don't shoot or stab themselves not many other safety rules come naturally to them. Unless they are taught how
they will not know to keep that finger off of the trigger until ready to fire or hell, there was once a person on the green forum who had to post how much he loved his
new Strider folder but as embarrassed as he was he could not figure out how to close it. This from a guy who just spent 4-5 bills on the knife.

Not going to go too much further in this post, but I certainly believe that movies and media influence how people use stuff, not necessarily to blame for it.
Since you made a random game of thrones reference, I will present this related fact:

"Is Khaleesi to the 2010s what Kim and Jennifer were to the 1970s? Not yet, but the made-up title of the "Game of Thrones" dragon-mother is popping up on baby-name charts, according to Social Security Administration data crunched by Vox.com...

In 2012, 146 babies were named Khaleesi... Arya, the youngest girl of the "Game of Thrones" Stark family, is also seeing her name climb the charts, Vox notes, with close to 800 girls getting that name in 2012"
http://www.today.com/parents/dragon-babies-unite-khaleesi-more-popular-name-betsy-2D79509123

If people are willing to name their children after a TV show character I'm pretty sure some of them think they can do some of this crap with our knives.
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Good lord. I would feel so........ nerdy if I named my child after a GOT character. And I love GOT.
 
I guess if I did not want an "uneducated" person flicking my knife open, dry firing my firearm, ect I would not hand it to them in the first place. Which is why I do not let other people handle my firearms unless we are on the range or I know them to be competent with firearms. If they are competent with firearms I know they will not dry fire my firearm; if we are on the range and they are "uneducated" I am teaching them how to shoot and safely handle firearms. If they are "uneducated" and don't inquire about my knife, I would not feel like I have to show or tell them about my knife ect. I can assume, though, if you hand it to them they are going to mimic what they see in movies because they think that is what you are supposed to do with such items. If I hand my knife to someone I fully expect they will open it and if they do so or drop it, It is on me I SHOULD have known better :) Just my opinion.
 
I just don't let anyone handle my nice knives. I sometimes carry a cheap back up knife for lending to people.
 
I will be honest. I had no clue that it was rude to wrist flip. But with that being said, I haven't wrist flipped a knife in 10 years, it was cool when I was 13 to have a 5$flea market knife with a loose pivot and slinging it open as hard and fast as I could. Now 10 years later I have knives that are actually made well and worth something and I don't see the need of wrist flipping my knife to get it open. Both my benchmades fly open quickly with a soft thumb flick. And my other knives are flippers and autos. Killing the need to flick anything.

But with all that being said, I agree with slot of other responses. Just because I run my car at 4000rpms. And dry fire my pistol because whatever. Or for some godforsaken reason wrist flick my knife. Does not mean that you can do it.
 
My solution for this problem is a simple one- I don't let people handle/borrow/use my stuff. And as a result, my stuff never gets damaged.

Of course if I know someone really well, and if I KNOW that they are responsible with things and will handle my property in the same way I do, then I will make an exception to my rule.

As far as everyone else, it goes like this-

Them- "Can I borrow your XYZ?"

Me- "No"

Or

Them- "Hey, can I check out your XYZ?"

Me- "No"

And then

Them- "You're a jerk."

Me- "No, I'm much worse than that. Now get lost."

I don't need new friends badly enough to let people handle my stuff. And the friends I do have can be trusted with my stuff. If I couldn't trust them with my stuff, they wouldn't be my friends.

And I would never buy knives and carry them around just to lend them out to people so they can ruin them. If people can't be bothered to buy and carry their own knives, that's their tough luck. But that's just my way. I also won't buy and carry around an extra phone, or pen, or other tools, just to lend them out so other people can ruin them.
 
If my knife cannot handle being flicked open by another person, then I'm thinking I bought a POS. My concerns would be if they hurt themselves or drop the knife on a hard floor. It's not like it's a Ming vase, or is it???
 
I guess I'm on the other side of the fence from most people here. If somebody needs my knife, or just wants to look at it, I open it before I give it to them. That way I don't have to worry about whether they know how to open it or not or if they'll open it correctly. I think it's pretty bad etiquette to hand somebody a closed knife and then get butthurt when they open it the best way that they know how. If 50% of people are morons I'd vote that the guy that gets upset when an unknown rule is broken is the moron, not the person that broke the rule they didn't even know about. If people on a knife forum can't agree on whether or not flicking open a knife causes damage how can you expect somebody that doesn't carry a knife to even know that that's an issue?

I will also echo what others have said about not lending out a knife that's that important to you. I often carry a yellow delrin Case sodbuster jr. along with my other knives. If somebody asks for a knife and I'm not comfortable giving them my pride and joy they get the soddie. It's cheap to replace and difficult to damage.
 
On two occasions I've seen people try to wrist-flick knives open, only to have those knives go airborne.

If somebody wants to fling THEIR knives across a room, into the rocks, or onto a cement or tile floor, then that's their choice. But they won't be doing it with my knives.

I've also seen butterfingers drop OTHER PEOPLES firearms onto cement floors at indoor gun ranges. Nothing like watching in horror as your $1000 pistol goes bouncing on concrete, then getting it handed back to you with dings, scratches, gouges, a busted sight, and an "Oops, sorry" (witnessed. not my personal experience).
 
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I don't really mind a wrist flick or two if the person knows what he/she is doing... But there is a positive correlation from observation that non-knife owning flickers who borrow a knife somehow has a much higher incidence of smashing the spine or the tip of the knife into a wall/ metal railing or whatever which would elicit some expletive ridden conditioned responses of knife owner in question.

When someone pass me their knife.. the first thing I do then pushing down on the tab is to put my other hand just behind. First flip is always to test the detent and have a feel of that knife first. Personally, no I don't wrist flip other's knives.
 
Cory Hess said:
If 50% of people are morons I'd vote that the guy that gets upset when an unknown rule is broken is the moron, not the person that broke the rule they didn't even know about. If people on a knife forum can't agree on whether or not flicking open a knife causes damage how can you expect somebody that doesn't carry a knife to even know that that's an issue?
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Right on.
 
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