Knifetests.com-whats YOUR opinion

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philwar said:
It's good to see you've finally recognized the dogma in your own position. But there's really no need to be so religious about all this.
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Apparently, your sarcasm monitor is broken. :p

FWIW I'm not the fanboy here. I just happen to think that noss4's stunts are dumb, and he's dumbing down the entire knife community by spreading them around. Look back over the last 3 out of 4 posts, and you'll see what I mean.
 
Guyon said:
I just happen to think that noss4's stunts are dumb, and he's dumbing down the entire knife community by spreading them around. Look back over the last 3 out of 4 posts, and you'll see what I mean.
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Well said!

Though I agree it is kind of comical to argue with those who are not able to defend their own position with anything resembling an actual fact, the average passer-by should be able to read some real facts every now and again. I realize many of you think that it is not worth the effort, but I think it would be regretable to let all these threads go on and on with only incorrect generalities and conclusions posted, with no one standing up and posting any factual information anywhere in them.
 
emperorwang said:
This thread still hasn't been moved to W&C?
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Why would we move it and who is following this babblefest to think of doing so? I drop in now and again, see a violation, and assess the infraction points if appropriate. If you see a particular problem you could report it, but I don't imagine many moderators are taking an interest. :)
 
You know what that means.... yep, that's right.... cage match! :p
 
Esav Benyamin said:
Why would we move it and who is following this babblefest to think of doing so? I drop in now and again, see a violation, and assess the infraction points if appropriate. If you see a particular problem you could report it, but I don't imagine many moderators are taking an interest. :)
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Here is another one who eyeballs this thread on occasions. ;)
 
Oh crap, one of those Traditional mods... Folks, the cage match is off till further notice. :D
 
dingy said:
my opinion is , NOSS is my hero !
be cool!
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ROTFL.....that has to be about the most queer thing I've read so far in the last 15min of reading this thread. I wish I had them back.:grumpy:

queer [kwɪə]
adj
1. differing from the normal or usual in a way regarded as odd or strange
 
noss4 said:
LOL ! :D Wear a smaller pair of panties they wouldn't bunch up so much.

See they only way you can get attention is to bash me with your hate filled threads. You have done it since day one and you will never change. :D So do they only thing you know how to do. :p The critics are the usual suspects here.


Everyone else: If you know how it is supposed to be done then do it !!!!! I have put up tests for three years and challenged all of your BS science nonsense over and over again. So how about putting your theories to the test for once instead of your mouth's. You may be surprised with what you find out.

Thanks to the people who enjoy the tests and learn from them. More to come. :thumbup:

All of you haters. Knock yourselves out. :thumbup::D It's been what three years and I'm still here. :p See you on the other side. :D

This hockey mask clown has many stunts to perform. :D

Later
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man, i am a suportor of you !
let's continue !:thumbup:
 
230grains said:
I said this in the Becker thread, but i'll say it again.

I love knifetests.com, in fact I'd love to see a test like that on every knife I buy.

I found my way to Busse Combat because of Noss after searching an indestructible knife. I've snapped kabars, torn out Cold steel knifes, snapped them at the tang. I've broken every kind of knife you can imagine.

To me a knife is more than a slicer. I do a large amount of hiking and camping, often in the dead of winter far away from everyone. I absolutely positively have to know my knife will take EVERYTHING I throw at it. Whether that be frozen wood, or batoning heavily knotted wood that would break many blades because of lateral force. I always carry a small blade like a Mora to compliment a large blade like an ASH-1 or a Battle Mistress now that I picked one up. I don't buy "hard use" knives, or knives advertised as such to be thin slicers, I buy them to be tanks that can handle all I have to offer.

If you're car camping and break your knife, no big deal, head back to the car and drive to the post office for a warranty request. If I break a knife in 0 degrees 20 miles from my truck, I could very well be screwed. A survival knife should both be able to help you survive, and be able to survive YOU.

I fully understand "But the tests aren't scientific!!!!!", neither is me hammering through a knotted slightly frozen log with another frozen log. I don't need scientific. I actually want imperfection in the tests, I don't care if the blade shifts and he ends up putting lateral pressure causing the blade to break because I want to know if the knife can take that. If I'm in the woods, I'm not chopping/batoning with a pneumatic arms, so why should I want to see a machine do it perfectly?

Sure, not every blade is meant to be a "hard use" knife, BUT if you advertise your blade as a survival knife, It better stand up to it.

I've broken batons before and used a large stone to finish the job. I need to make sure my knife isn't going to smash in half because of rock impacts. Yeah, the site steers people away from certain knife companies like CRK and even becker, and so what? Want a favorable review on the site? Make a hard use knife that stands up to it. I don't want ANY hard use knife that can't take a whack on the spine with a hammer. I'm so sick of hearing people say "He beat the Chris Reeve harder than anything!", he did the same with a cheap kitchen knife and it took the abuse better.

There are three groups of people who watch Noss in action:
They love it
They don't care
Chris Reeve fans and hate it.

I look forward to more reviews from Noss.
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you are the man ! cool
i like your words !:thumbup:
 
I was just wondering something.

When Road & Track tests its cars, do they test more than one car of any given model?

When Gun Tests tests its firearms, do they test more than one gun of any given model?

Also, when automobiles and firearms are tested, are they done so with a computer and a robot that records all physics related to the test? Or do regular people test them and write about their findings, based on their interaction with the objects?
 
komondor said:
I was just wondering something.

When Road & Track tests its cars, do they test more than one car of any given model?

When Gun Tests tests its firearms, do they test more than one gun of any given model?

Also, when automobiles and firearms are tested, are they done so with a computer and a robot that records all physics related to the test? Or do regular people test them and write about their findings, based on their interaction with the objects?
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Those are reviews no matter what title/language they may choose to sell copy.

At least with gun reviews, the writer tries to fire more than one round with the same conditions in place.

Edit: Rethinking cars a bit... with some of those reviews, they do run different cars through the same paces, including track conditions, tasks, etc. and there's an attempt to recreate conditions across each iteration. However, the events are still un-scientific reviews.
 
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So some semblance of "science" has to be present in order to call it a test?

This is where you, Broos, and Phil are simply incorrect.

The truth is, none of you likes the guy, nor his website, nor his "stunts," so you try to put some intellectual spin on it to support your disdain. I'm not buying it.

None of you three can re-invent the various definitions of "test" to support your disdain and have it fly by me. You don't like his tests, fine. I can agree with many of your views.

But don't try to mask your disapproval for his methods by claiming he is scientifically incorrect, or insincere. It's all sophistry.

Testers test things all the time and write "reviews" about them. Tests, reviews, whatever.

All the Hockey Mask does is test the durability of reputed "survival knives" that are marketed for hard use. His tests are no more or less valid than Road & Track car tests or Gun Tests firearms tests.

Give it a rest.
 
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Well then maybe you can explain the relationship between knife "durability" & beating on a knife with a steel hammer. My definition of knife durability has nothing to do with that. I guess if road and track took videos of how long each car would float before it sank, I'd concede your point.
 
Really, in the end, it doesn't matter what people think of these silly stunts. If the gullible find something of value in them, good luck to them, who cares. Maybe there are people who sit around all day banging on knives with hammers, who knows, who really cares. Anyone who refers to science as "BS nonsense" has, IMO, pretty much lost all credibility so very easily ignored.

The following link might provide some interesting reading for some.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinking


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Broos said:
It is often not easy reading, but anyone with a little technical acumen can do some searching & reading into just how little is learned by randomly hitting a small piece of really hard steel ...
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I agree on that, however once again, this is how the human body works, it's imperfect, and none of us can repeatedly reproduce the same strike over and over again, neither with a hammer, nor with an axe, nor with a knife.

So, even if Noss used a device that produced same force, angle etc for his destruction tests they'd still be far from what any human could do...

For the same reason, I doubt someone can replicate freehand even CATRA machine results, let alone industrial cutter performance. Which is why our knives are a lot softer than those industrial knives.
 
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