Knives at Disney in Florida Part 2

What was the point of this post?

Knife guys should leave their knives at home?
sharkattacksw said:
OMG!!!! You're going to be without a knife for a few days?! What if all hell breaks loose? What if you're in dire need of a knife to defend yourself? What if ISIS takes over Disney? What if Zombies attack? What if you find yourself in an epic lifesaving situation that can only be solved with a knife, and you don't have one?! What if....?

Good on you for being sensible.
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sharkattacksw said:
OMG!!!! You're going to be without a knife for a few days?! What if all hell breaks loose? What if you're in dire need of a knife to defend yourself? What if ISIS takes over Disney? What if Zombies attack? What if you find yourself in an epic lifesaving situation that can only be solved with a knife, and you don't have one?! What if....?

Good on you for being sensible.
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Or what if.....wait for it....you needed to cut something!

shinyedges said:
What was the point of this post?

Knife guys should leave their knives at home?
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Seriously, I just said this the other day in the bearings thread. We are knife nuts. We like to carry and use knives. Most of us don't like not having a knife in case we needed to cut something. Is that not the point of this forum?

We went to Disney World 2 years ago before a couple of the larger shootings in this country. I got into multiple parks a day four days in a row without being stopped. Plus, a lot of this does have to do with the difference between "land" & "world"......

Took an inexpensive Kershaw Tremor just in case I had to ditch it.
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Agreed, cray. I guess I just felt his post was condescending and a veiled Jab at guys who don't leave their knives at home. Which confuses me because this is a knife forum.
 
shinyedges said:
Agreed, cray. I guess I just felt his post was condescending and a veiled Jab at guys who don't leave their knives at home. Which confuses me because this is a knife forum.
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Yup. It doesn't make sense to express antiknife sentiment on a knife forum.
 
jbmonkey said:
yeah a folding knife, even a big fixed blade aint gonna do much on a full size gator unless you know how to cut their spinal cord or pierce their skull but thst brain is small and hard to hit.
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I think I'd try for joint of the mandible, maybe damage enough muscle loosen up the grip of those jaws.
 
sharkattacksw said:
None of my responses are "veiled". I'm direct and to the point.
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Ah, I see. Your opinion of when it is the "time and place" is noted. I disagree with your anti knife hogwash, any place legally possible to carry is the "time and place" in my opinion.
 
Well, I have never used my knives in a tactical manner but I cannot tell you how many times I have had to, cut this Pop Pop, or can you use your knife to open this Pop Pop, or go to grandpa, he has a knife and can cut that up in smaller bits for you. I can't see Kisney being any different, thing will need to be opened, strings will need to be cut off shirts, shoes, whatever and food will need sectioning for the little boy.

Just goes with the territory.
 
shinyedges said:
Ah, I see. Your opinion of when it is the "time and place" is noted. I disagree with your anti knife hogwash, any place legally possible to carry is the "time and place" in my opinion.
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Yep, you got me. Anti knife hogwash, that's what I speak. :rolleyes: Sniff...sniff... Do you smell that? Why, it's...it's...sarcasm.

Have a nice day, shiny.
 
Wolf7 said:
Does Disney have lifeguards watching over water when tourists/visitors are in there? Are there now any armed with rifles trained gator hunters, who make sure it safe for visitors? Cause, if after that horrible accident they still don't have full time armed security that is keeping park safe from wild life or terrorists than park is being highly irresponsible and negligent.

Personally I'm very un-happy about being un-armed and defenseless, but I can tolerate it if I know there are armed security around, somebody armed and trained better than everybody defenseless.

PS My relatives when first retired to Florida had 2 old slow Dauechuond "Winnie hot" dogs, both got eaten by gators soon after. It just came out of pond behind their house grabbed them in one bite! Another time I was visiting them and we seen wild life officers catch and pull out another live gaiter out of the same man made pond, until that point I didn't realize how unsafe it was, because it was man made not wild!
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It's extremely rare for an alligator to kill someone. Only 27 people have been killed by alligators since 1973. That's over 40 years!
 
RiderOnTheStorm said:
It's extremely rare for an alligator to kill someone. Only 27 people have been killed by alligators since 1973. That's over 40 years!
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I'm sure it's very comforting statistics for that poor father & relatives of gator other 26 victims!
I read that in other places ex: Australia, Africa, South America both fresh & salt water gator attacks on humans are more frequent!

That is one of those "rare" situations, where he desperately needed knife & didn't have one, any knife would have been helpful at that point to try and save his kid! Any tool would be better at that point, than just standing there like a fool unable to do anything!

"Better to have it & don't ever needed it, than need it & not have it!" - when someone's life is at stake! Paraphrasing boys scout motto: "Be ready & be prepared always!"

Also, more than ones I have seen on the news where in amusement park rides broke down and people got stuck on top of them or somebody got tangled up in wire or ropes on those dangerous rides! I bet in those situations sharp knife could have been very useful.

Both Florida & California had incidents where old people crushed their cars on accident into crowds of people, people get injured or trapped, knife is very useful in those situations!
 
Don't think a knife is gonna help you get the roller coaster functioning again. Just sayin'.
 
Wolf7 said:
I'm sure it's very comforting statistics for that poor father & relatives of gator other 26 victims!
I read that in other places ex: Australia, Africa, South America both fresh & salt water gator attacks on humans are more frequent!

That is one of those "rare" situations, where he desperately needed knife & didn't have one, any knife would have been helpful at that point to try and save his kid! Any tool would be better at that point, than just standing there like a fool unable to do anything!

"Better to have it & don't ever needed it, than need it & not have it!" - when someone's life is at stake! Paraphrasing boys scout motto: "Be ready & be prepared always!"

Also, more than ones I have seen on the news where in amusement park rides broke down and people got stuck on top of them or somebody got tangled up in wire or ropes on those dangerous rides! I bet in those situations sharp knife could have been very useful.

Both Florida & California had incidents where old people crushed their cars on accident into crowds of people, people get injured or trapped, knife is very useful in those situations!
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I'm not arguing they shouldn't have had a knife. They certainly should and I agree with your sentiments, but I just wanted to illustrate that fatal gator attacks are extremely rare. A knife would have little effect on large gator. A firearm would be your best bet. Disney doesn't prohibit the carry of knives in the park unless they are over 3 inches, at least that's been my experience. The area where the child was killed was at a resort where the father could have been armed if he was so inclined. I never would have let my 2 year old wade around in alligator infested waters, common sense should prevail at some point.

Crocodile I believe are what you are referring to in Africa and Australia as Alligators primarily live in the South East of the US and some parts of China. Different species, different behavior. Crocodiles are more prone to eat land based animals than alligators, where alligators are more interested in fresh water animals. Hence, why it's a bad idea to be wading in alligator infested waters, which is any body of water in Florida.
 
Wolf7 we have native salt crocs in state as well on the gulf side mainly......not many though......
 
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