knives for self defense? is it mental?

AKnife said:
Knives can be used as self defense devices, but there are better options out there. I would never want to be in a knife fight.

It really depends on the situation if it's a good idea to take out your knife for self defense. If you're surrounded by people with intent on harming you, you probably don't want to pull out a knife. If there's only one person that you need to defend against then you might want to consider the knife, but keep it concealed until you really need it. The element of surprise is important if using your knife for self defense. If I ever need to use a knife for defense I don't want to be relying on intimidation, I'm going to be using it as a tool to exert more harm to the attacker.

As for the "don't bring a knife to a gunfight" saying, knives don't need reloading. ;)
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Why wouldn't you pull your knife out if there are 5people intending to beat you to hell or kill you? I prefer to be able to take down 1 or 2 of them before I go down rather than having them all pin me to the ground and curb stomp me till I'm unconscious/dead.
 
Roger999 said:
Why wouldn't you pull your knife out if there are 5people intending to beat you to hell or kill you? I prefer to be able to take down 1 or 2 of them before I go down rather than having them all pin me to the ground and curb stomp me till I'm unconscious/dead.
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Because I don't know if they intend on killing me or leaving me alive. If I take out a knife stabbing at one or two of them I'm pretty sure they'll have intent on killing me. Also the fact that disarming me and giving me a taste of my own medicine will be a high possibility. There is strength in numbers, I'm not going to pull out a blade if I'm outnumbered.

But this is all "what if" scenarios, hell I have a higher chance of getting mauled by a grizzly before I get ganged up on.
 
I'm not a lawyer but my understanding of lethal force in self-defense is if you're outnumbered you're allowed to use lethal force. Being beaten or kicked by more than one person IMHO constitutes a lethal attack. I already face the possibility of serious injury if I get attacked by someone 10 inches taller than me and outweighs me by 100 lbs. A group attack is even worse.

If two or more attackers jump me, my knife is going to be deployed and I'm not going to waste time trying to intimidate them with it and get them to stop. I'll do my absolute best to do as much damage to them so they have to stop trying to kill me.
 
with in 10-20 feet, having a knife just might be worth as much as having a gun. Anyone saying a knife is a horrible self defence weapon is just trying to catch you off guard when they have one and are on top of you slashing or stabbing away! That or they are a moron. Sure its not the best but its a lot better then fisty cuffs.
 
Roger999 said:
Why wouldn't you pull your knife out if there are 5people intending to beat you to hell or kill you? I prefer to be able to take down 1 or 2 of them before I go down rather than having them all pin me to the ground and curb stomp me till I'm unconscious/dead.
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so true. if I were with 4 other guys and saw a guy pull out a knife and even if i had a knife, I would want to fight/jump with the guy with the knife and I sure as hell wouldnt be the first guy to try anything with him.
 
AKnife said:
Because I don't know if they intend on killing me or leaving me alive. If I take out a knife stabbing at one or two of them I'm pretty sure they'll have intent on killing me. Also the fact that disarming me and giving me a taste of my own medicine will be a high possibility. There is strength in numbers, I'm not going to pull out a blade if I'm outnumbered.

But this is all "what if" scenarios, hell I have a higher chance of getting mauled by a grizzly before I get ganged up on.
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so you would bend over and take it in the ass? at least with a knife you have a chance of getting one or two before they get you! Any time anyone comes after you, you should think they are going to kill you no matter what! Even if they just push you to the ground, you could easily whack your coconut on the ground and die...

In the end, why not start stabbing away? I would.
 
eccvets said:
so you would bend over and take it in the ass? at least with a knife you have a chance of getting one or two before they get you! Any time anyone comes after you, you should think they are going to kill you no matter what! Even if they just push you to the ground, you could easily whack your coconut on the ground and die...

In the end, why not start stabbing away? I would.
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Why? Because I value my life. People with your mindset are the ones we read about in the local newspaper being stabbed to death or with fatal injuries. A knife is a tool first and an emergency improvised weapon second. "Getting one or two before they get you" I'd rather try my luck at them not having intent on killing me before taking out a knife trying to get a few stabs in and then being killed.

Read my full posts before trying to feed your pitiful ego. The chance that a circumstance like this will even happen is pretty damn low.
 
for those asking, i didnt post a hot topic just "because". i checked last night, a little while after i posted, and had about 12 replies. i looked this morning and there are 4 PAGES!! lol, i wasnt trying to start an argument, and i dont think i did, i wanting some opinions and got alot more, alot faster, than i expected. i have read every comment and appreciate all who gave their opinion. after reading all the comments, i still feel about the same. ingnore em, if that dont work, run, if they catch me, do what i need to do. use it as a last, absolutely last, effort to save my LIFE, not just to avoid a bloody nose. dont go around sticking my tounge out at gangters, just to see what happens.
thanks for all the replies, i really appreciate it!
 
I train martial arts for almost 20+ years, including kali, kun tao, silat and systema. However, the main reason why I carry a knife is not for self defense. For self defense, even a fork or a brick will serve well in apropriate situation. I use my EDC mainly for general cutting shores. However, when a threatening situation presents itself, I would not think twice to use whatever I have on me (keys, flash lights, mace, stun gun, pens, pencils, what have you) for SD purposes.

One more thing, if you plan to EDC a knife for SD, you's better learn how to use it first. Otherwise, it will only endanger you more.

If you have access to guns, you better carry guns for SD.
 
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beluga said:
I train martial arts for almost 20+ years, including kali, kun tao, silat and systema. However, the main reason why I carry a knife is not for self defense. For self defense, even a fork or a brick will do. I use my EDC mainly for egenaral cutting shores. However, when a threatening situation presents itself, I would not think twice to use whatever I have on me for SD purposes.

One more thing, if you plan to EDC a knife for SD, you's better learn how to use it first. Otherwise, it will only endanger you more.
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I totally AGREE!!! It's all about TRAINING AND AWARENESS ;). I'm an LEO and I do carry a knife as a backup to my duty weapon and as use for weapon retention. God forbid that if I get taken to the ground or during a wrestling match with a bad guy and they go for my sidearm, they're getting cut somewhere ... I'm going HOME!!!

Like the way many of us are trained with a firearm ... If you HAVE to pull that gun, you better intend on using it ...Same with a knife. I've seen many knife wounds. I gotta say that a knife is just as devistating as any bullet ... if not more.

The knife as a weapon has been with us for a very long time. It's become part of our arsenal for some of us. We teach our military CQC with a knife, LEOs, and citizens have knife training classes. The knife has been used as a tool and weapon for centuries. Before the firearm ...this is what we used. Native Americans fought with them, Romans, Spartans ...

I know that they were all well trained. It's unfortunate that we as citizens also have to be well trained just to walk the streets ...it's so unfortunate that this is what society has become. We all have to have the mindset of a soldier/warrior to survive and walk our own streets.

The knife may not be the best weapon in a situation, but for many that can't carry a firearm ...a knife maybe their only option to survive. I've read many other options to be used ...again it boils down to being well trained with whatever it is you choose to use to protect yourself. Take Very Good Care, Be Safe Always, Be Prepared, and Always Be Aware.


-ROOK-
 
eccvets said:
so true. if I were with 4 other guys and saw a guy pull out a knife and even if i had a knife, I would want to fight/jump with the guy with the knife and I sure as hell wouldnt be the first guy to try anything with him.
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Ok but there's a pretty good chance at least one of those 4 guys had a gun too and im pretty sure a knife (or even a samurai sword) isnt gonna hold him back. Even if they didnt you just dont know? Pulling a knife on a group of people allready intent on causing a ruckus is a horrible idea unless theyre allready surrounding you.
 
stabman said:
Still?
Man, try out the disarms before repeating this tired nonsense.
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You know I sat there and thought about it and it MAY be possible to take a knife away from somebody but your gonna get pretty damn messed up if not worse if you try.
 
ricehaterboi said:
You know I sat there and thought about it and it MAY be possible to take a knife away from somebody but your gonna get pretty damn messed up if not worse if you try.
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Absolutely.
It CAN be done, but it isn't easy, and unless you're REALLY lucky, you'll need to get to the hospital really soon afterwards.
I tried, for fun, some disarming practice againat a 120 pound girl I was dating back when I was 20. I'd had a goodly number of years of martial arts at the time, with practicing knife disarms. She had NO training whatsoever.
I would have been bleeding pretty profusely had that been a live blade. Alive, due to where the cuts were, but I don't know what shape I'd be in by the time I reached the hospital.
I took that lesson and have improved over the years with more practice against more realistic attacks than are usually practiced against in many martial arts, but I still wouldn't want to have to do it for real.
I HAVE seen a knife taken away from a really stoned guy who was wobbling on his feet as he threatened with the knife, but he was not trying to stab or cut with it.
And I restrained a guy before who had his hand on the handle of a butcher knife, but he hadn't got it out of the kitchen block. If he'd gotten the knife out it would have likely sucked, as he wanted to do more than threaten.
 
AKnife said:
Because I don't know if they intend on killing me or leaving me alive. If I take out a knife stabbing at one or two of them I'm pretty sure they'll have intent on killing me. Also the fact that disarming me and giving me a taste of my own medicine will be a high possibility. There is strength in numbers, I'm not going to pull out a blade if I'm outnumbered.

But this is all "what if" scenarios, hell I have a higher chance of getting mauled by a grizzly before I get ganged up on.
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Well amen to that. However since you live in AK...AKnife, I will assume you would be taking advantage of our very liberal carry laws and have a gun on you.

However I dont think I would take an ass stomping by 8 guys without using everything at my disposal to dissuade them...including a knife. At some point there is full committment and with 8 beating on you, death is almost a certainty.
 
i totally disagree with those who say knives are horrible for self defense, and i really hate hearing it over and over again, or even those who say you need tons of training in order to carry and use a knife. what a load of crap.
 
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