Knives vs guns when entering police dept

Even in all the old cowboy movies everyone laid their gunbelt down on the table by the door, so no weapons in the courthouse is nothing new, and I believe, far from trampling on your rights. Just to be clear, if the PD is not connected to a court or a jail, I think a no weapons policy is kind of stupid, but just like every other building in the country, public and private, the owner gets to choose the rules for their property. Don't like it? Don't go there. Or, I guess you could read up on your state laws and see what places are required by law to provide a place to secure personal effects. My guess is there are probably places that are not complying with state law...
Until this year, my county courthouse had no security and only had a metal detector on the courtroom doorway. Now that we have a new building, the guy at the door doesn't even have a lock box. No weapons allowed in building. Well, except for that one time before they put the sticker on the door, the guy let me in with 3 folders on me, but I was just going to the clerk...
I always thought it would be nice to see those little lockers with the keys like you see at the water parks, but free of course, since we are paying the bills anyway.
 
I have learned to just empty my pockets before entering almost all government buildings. The post office closest to me is also a federal courthouse so there too. Regular little post offices are fine, I just respect the rules and keep my visits quick. I had to go to the county records office housed in a historic courthouse recently and surprised the security guy with no "beeps" at the metal detector because I dumped all but my keys, phone and wallet in the trunk beforehand.
 
I see plenty of courtroom attacks in my local news to completely understand the no weapon policy, I don't even live in a large urban area. There is no "rights infringement" involved just the attempt to keep the persons involved in trials and such from violent harm. Taking my now wife into the courthouse to testify against her assailant many years ago was a good reminder why these rules exist, for his sake as well as hers.
 
Guillermo_del_Sin said:
Had a brick wall argument with an airport security Fudd many years ago, he didn’t know the rules on blade length and just felt that I had “no business with a knife like that!” (3” innocuous Al Mar folder). Then of course 9/11 happened, so any time I *have* to enter a government facility, airport, or bank, I make sure I’ve got nothing but my wallet and phone.
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He was technically right though. Apparently you can cause a bit of mischief with a small knife on a plane.
 
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DocJD said:
No , I do not accept this viewpoint .

The police and courthouse should serve the people , not the reverse .

The police and public officials are paid to assume the risk of governance , not to be especially insulated from risk .
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It doesn't work logically. I mean if they serve the people and by that serve you because you are people.

Well they are also people and so have as much right to serve themselves.
 
DocJD said:
Duh ! :rolleyes: Nope ?

But if a police station can't deal with that , what Earthly good are they ? :confused:

There's nobody out front of my house or most regular people's business'e or homes to disarm potential threats .

Why should government facilities be specially protected ?
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OMG, are you "that guy"? I've been behind that guy before and nobody in line wants to hear him express his constitutional rights at length when nobody wants to be there or wants it to take any longer than absolutely necessary. People got stuff to do. Write a letter to the paper to express your outrage, or just hurry up and escalate it to where security drags you off, but enough already on the holding up the line, please.
 
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Danke42 said:
Maybe the Police should have a driver through window for folks with a lot of dicey stuff in their pockets? Now I know that won't help the bus riders but it would help a lot of other people here. C'mon isn't it nearly 2022?
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depending on local laws we could start an uber type business using the local homeless as gig workers...to hold on to stuff outside of police and courthouses etc. you know for those who refuse to leave home without it. collect a fee and of course we get the fee for the app and per gig worker storage . thinkin about it, surprised no one has done this yet.😁
 
jbmonkey said:
depending on local laws we could start an uber type business using the local homeless as gig workers...to hold on to stuff outside of police and courthouses etc. you know for those who refuse to leave home without it. collect a fee and of course we get the fee for the app and per gig worker storage . thinkin about it, surprised no one has done this yet.😁
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Pretty sure I am not trusting anything more than a SAK to a homeless person for safe keeping. Even then I would think my odds of ever seeing said SAK are probably 90/10 in favor of never seeing it again. :)
 
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