knives with hardcore framelocks?

PunisherLcr said:
Oh really?
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I beg to differ.
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In all fairness, every knife manufacturer is going to have bad apples that slip through the cracks. I'm not saying that should make it better because it sucks when you get a faulty knife but that is just the way it is. That knife is obviously defective but I wouldn't go so far as to say it is the design... it is more likely bad tolerances on that particular example.

Car manufacturers, computer manufacturers, etc. all have duds that they put out. It doesn't necessarily mean the overall design is flawed.
 
IBTL

FWIW, the ZT 0551 has one of the thickest framelocks that I have ever seen
 
I didn't know you'd focus that much on the word "hardcore". I don't have an exact definition for a hardcore framlock. maybe a thick one? some linerlocks are so thin that I'm afraid it may slide op between the knife and the other liners.

I haven't got any specific uses for the knife.
 
You'll probably be fine with most anything then. I like framelocks for aethetic reasons only and haven't had any fail. Heck I haven't had any locks fail!
 
The Monolock on Benchmades are very nice.
The BM 630 (Skirmish) and 760 (Bob Lum Tanto) are very strong and robust.

Regards,

Andre Tiba - Brazil
 
Actually, a very high percentage of the first run HEST/f's had that problem. So much so that DPX did a redesign and came out with the HEST/f2. Guess what? Those new versions that DPX sent out are starting to exhibit the exact same problems.

So, contrary to your word, the HEST/f does actually have an inherent flaw in it's design.



sheepdog229 said:
In all fairness, every knife manufacturer is going to have bad apples that slip through the cracks. I'm not saying that should make it better because it sucks when you get a faulty knife but that is just the way it is. That knife is obviously defective but I wouldn't go so far as to say it is the design... it is more likely bad tolerances on that particular example.

Car manufacturers, computer manufacturers, etc. all have duds that they put out. It doesn't necessarily mean the overall design is flawed.
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sheepdog229 said:
Car manufacturers, computer manufacturers, etc. all have duds that they put out. It doesn't necessarily mean the overall design is flawed.
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Actually in industrial manufacturing, flaws are calculated in PPM (parts per million) for failures. If anything fails above 2%, it is considered a "catastrophic failure" and grounds for a recall. I don't think you should compare cars and computers with the type of quality that DPX HEST is exhibiting.
 
sogflash said:
I didn't know you'd focus that much on the word "hardcore". I don't have an exact definition for a hardcore framlock. maybe a thick one? some linerlocks are so thin that I'm afraid it may slide op between the knife and the other liners.

I haven't got any specific uses for the knife.
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1) You started the whole "hardcore" thing! :D
2) If you don't have any specific uses planned for the knife, why do you think you need a hardcore liner lock?
3) cough cough fixed blade cough cough
 
CrimsonTideShooter said:
Actually, a very high percentage of the first run HEST/f's had that problem. So much so that DPX did a redesign and came out with the HEST/f2. Guess what? Those new versions that DPX sent out are starting to exhibit the exact same problems.

So, contrary to your word, the HEST/f does actually have an inherent flaw in it's design.
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CWL said:
Actually in industrial manufacturing, flaws are calculated in PPM (parts per million) for failures. If anything fails above 2%, it is considered a "catastrophic failure" and grounds for a recall. I don't think you should compare cars and computers with the type of quality that DPX HEST is exhibiting.
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I guess I retract my statement gentlemen. I am not familiar with the HEST and didn't realize it was a design flaw. CWL, point taken - maybe it was a bad example, but my point is if you buy a Ford Escape (just for example) and it is a lemon, that is not statistically significant and doesn't mean other people will have an issue with an Escape if they buy one.
 
sheepdog229 said:
I guess I retract my statement gentlemen. I am not familiar with the HEST and didn't realize it was a design flaw. CWL, point taken - maybe it was a bad example, but my point is if you buy a Ford Escape (just for example) and it is a lemon, that is not statistically significant and doesn't mean other people will have an issue with an Escape if they buy one.
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I wish it wasn't like that, because I really wanted one for a while. When all the kinks are worked out I am definitely going to get one.
 
I only have few folders,Emerson Roadhouse and Persian,a few Spydercos and MOD Mark I & II.
They are nice knives in my opinion.
I would really like one of the new ZT's but customs in Australia have taken my last couple of folders I've tried to bring in,so I will have to stick to what I have for now.

On a side note...DPX Hest are good at making snot bubbles though:p
 
The OP fell victim to the same misconception that many, many others have. The thick lock bar on a framelock does not translate to a stronger lock (due to the cut out), and using Titanium doesn't improve anything either (it is a softer, weaker material. The strength if Ti is only in relation to weight).
 
Ok im going to lay this thread to rest right now and anwser his question.
A hardcore framelock design would be a Strider SMF and SnG.... less expensive route would be the ZT series of knives(i have a 551 and i love it)
I have seen a strider smf take a direct hit from a sledge hammer and work completely fine afterwards.
their warranty states that as long as you dont Pimp or alter your knife, if you break the tip or chip the edge they will fix it or replace it. AWESOME warranty
you can chop, pry, hammer, as well as cut with a strider and it will keep begging for more!

the smf has a blade thickness of .19 and the SNG comes in at .158


Strider SMF's i own. SMF aluminum s35VN SMF gunner grips 3v and SMF Concealed carry 3v. not pictured is my SnG with s110v
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comparison pics between the military, hinderer xm 24 and strider SMF 3v
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here is a comparison picture between the spyderco military pivot and the Strider SMF pivot. and before people flame this, yes i know you wont be prying with a military.
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