Knives you would never buy again!

Normally I'd rather forget the dogs that have passed thru my hands and prefer to remember the pleasant surprises....like the Spyderco Tenacious.

I have a number of SOG folders, and must have been lucky since I found about 99% of mine decent for what I paid....granted they don't get a lot of heavy use.

Never again?:

Anything from S&W. Life it too short and way too many better choices, whatever the price range, to waste time messing with their junk hoping to find something decent.

Anything Gerber. Which is really sad. They use to make so many darn nice knives.

Benchmade. Only if I can handle one first. Experienced too many QC problems to hassle with them anymore. Basic QC stuff that would/should have been caught by anyone who cared.
Don't care for the MAPP pricing and/or the overall attitude of the company. Willing to overlook that at times since they do have some great designs and "can" produce an outstanding knife when they want to.
 
Honestly,

Everything in this pic - besides the 710 (with wood inlays), 615's, and the LFTi.. Everything else I could do without.

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Kershaw Blur. I don't care for the recurve blade. Or for any recurves for that matter. With the exception of the BM 710. Even if the blade does hit the back spacer.
 
Smith and Wesson SWBLOP4 Black Ops
The only thing that I really do not care for is the pocket clip is crap. Works well with loose pants but not tight jeans.
The finish is cheap, mine has not worn yet but I've seen others that look like pretty bad.

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Kwon Kwang said:
Is there anything genuinely wrong with them, or are they just not to your tastes?
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By knife:

Adamas: way too bulky, waaaay too heavy for EDC. And no non-coated blade offerings.. :thumbdn:

Presidio: I hate aluminum, scratches very easily. Plus, the scales eat at your pockets. Blade is fine, scales are not.

Mini-Grip: Too small to grip with man hands lol - overall too small, and dislike cheap feel of the scales (even though they are resistant to everything).

Ritter-Grip: cheap feel of scales, and simply not a fan. It left the "I need something else feel."

Onslaught: AKA pirate knife.. Too large of a blade, with a small blade width.. So what you have is a big slicer, but not a knife that you can use hard.

The Para II (an the Millie, that is arriving soon) trumps most of these. Can't say enough about the PM II - simple, large (thin profile), and the blade is amazing. If I picked one up sooner, I wouldn't have most of those knives.
 
untamed said:
Anything by Smith and Wesson (never held an edge, hated the serrations, lock failed). Bought my first modern folder back in '99 but I learned my lesson since.
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^ this. Plus the crkt m16 in any configuration. Probably crkt in general. Havent seen anything that appeals to me in their line. I do commend them for their innovative choices in styling. Or something. I just dont want to come off as a jerk or bagging them. They seem to be doing well. They dont need me. Who am I anyway?
 
P_Meticulous said:
By knife:

Adamas: way too bulky, waaaay too heavy for EDC. And no non-coated blade offerings.. :thumbdn:

Presidio: I hate aluminum, scratches very easily. Plus, the scales eat at your pockets. Blade is fine, scales are not.

Mini-Grip: Too small to grip with man hands lol - overall too small, and dislike cheap feel of the scales (even though they are resistant to everything).

Ritter-Grip: cheap feel of scales, and simply not a fan. It left the "I need something else feel."

Onslaught: AKA pirate knife.. Too large of a blade, with a small blade width.. So what you have is a big slicer, but not a knife that you can use hard.

The Para II (an the Millie, that is arriving soon) trumps most of these. Can't say enough about the PM II - simple, large (thin profile), and the blade is amazing. If I picked one up sooner, I wouldn't have most of those knives.
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Thanks for taking the time to make this post. I planned on getting a Para2, but it looks like it's going up on my "to buy' list. :thumbup:
 
threeson said:
Kershaw Blur: Clunky assisted folder that feels more like a novelty product than an actual tool
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Wow...I feel the EXACT opposite...has been an invaluable duty knife for me for 6 years. Assist makes the knife easy to open with gloves... Blade steel holds a great edge and has never shown any signs of corrosion despite umpteen encounters with rain, sleet, snow and the Long Island Sound!
 
I've been disappointed in every single CRKT knife I have purchased. They are OK as far as design goes, but their steel seems soft. I've also had the worst luck with their pocket clips getting loose and losing the knife.

I tried to like them, I tried hard. As I said, if their steel wasn't so sucky I'd be a fan.

Any lockback knife. I hate them. I hate them. I hate them. I can't say it enough, I hate them. I like my knifes to flick open nicely. After I discovered linear locks, compression locks, and captive ball locks.......I just refuse to go there ever again.

Like many others have said, Gerber anything. If their quality goes back to the 80s era quality/$ spent.......I'll buy them again, maybe (it will be hard to forgive their selling out).

SOG. For the $ spent, there are better options.

Benchmade with axis lock. Sure, it's sexy smooth. Can I buy an omega spring? BUY??? When that happens, I'll think about it.

Spyderco Manix 2. It's not a bad knife, but the PM2 surpasses it in every way for me. Saber grind is MEH. Design is OK, heavy, and the fact that it has a captive ball lock saves it from being a total bust. I carry this knife a lot because I hate it. It's ironic, but when I have a knife I dislike, that's the one I carry the most as my user.....so I don't destroy the knives I like.
 
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Kwon Kwang said:
Thanks for taking the time to make this post. I planned on getting a Para2, but it looks like it's going up on my "to buy' list. :thumbup:
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No prob ;) sorry for the poor grammar (used my phone in traffic lol).. Spyderco has won me over, even over some great BM designs.. I'm sure you will love the PM II!
 
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*for this i'm not including customs, not about to start a war, so in regards to production knives:
1) gerber applegate fairbain folder: brought her to hell and back, i absolutely loved this knife, until i finally went to take the scales off and stripped all the screws. heartbroken. they replaced it tho. sold it to a bud, same thing happened to him a few months later with it. funny how cheap screws (or maybe a bad batch) can ruin a knife overall.
2) almost anything bm, they are like the middleman of knives, 'i got this knife that's probably worth $100, so lets sell it for $200'. even their bali's, which i love and own (42s i still got, sold that pos 53 tho, its like gee i love to flip, so much so that the g10 started wearing down quick) are outrageous in terms of price to overall product. their quality control is sssoooo mediocre, but what do ya expect when u actually see the caliper, or lack thereof, of the employees who work for them (just watch their videos, its a joke). the last straw was when my 581 came with a completely ****ed grind, was like 22 on one side and 30 on the other!! i'd expect this from Ontario, but not bm. nothing like having to reshape a new knife u bought, SPECIFICALLY FOR THE 390 STEEL, right outta the box. callin them about their qc issues is pointless too. just plain rude. I've had Taylor cutlery make good on a faulty knife that broke after a year for petes sake! i am done with benchmade, and if so many knife enthusists would stop being sheeple and just mindlessly buying their mid grade knives, they might lower their prices, or put some thought into new designs or better qc. to give props tho i gotta say their AXIS lock is a brute!
3) custom italians (am i paying for the wap heritage, in regards to stilettos, or for the average cobalt steel they all seem to like in the tac knives ((disappointment abounds regarding my extrema ratio harpoon, way to much $$ for what it was, neat grip tho)) )?
4) cant remember his name, but that loser knifemaker/ company in NZ who can't make a knife with any form of an edge. someone posted this earlier in regards to TOPS knives, but i must disagree
5) anything bushmaster or frost(duh) :)

Honestly when it comes to production knives and overall price vs product, materials used, unique designs, qc and customer service, and THE ABILITY TO THINK ABOUT, DESIGN, AND LISTEN TO WHAT THE OVERALL END USER WANTS, well, my hats off to Spyderco. just look at their elusive mule teams, when in the history of knives has a company ever done this?! lets even remember about the select few scuba divers (like me) and mariners that want a rustproof knife. BOOM, here's the H-1 line! Power to the people! They are without a doubt my favorite, and not just because an endura once saved my life. Standing ovation, Spyderco, thank you for thinking of us, the end user.
 
i also find it funny so many of you are naming S&W and sog. what's more of a slap in the face, a cheap knife being cheap, or an expensive knife being cheap?|-)
 
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Buck Vantage. Terrible fit and finish combined with uncomfortable ergonomics. Only knife I've every been able to get the lock to fail on too.
 
Sog Aegis... I tried to like it, but the thing had an annoying amount of play, and wouldn't stay tight. I generally like AUS-8, but it sorta left me cold, if I remember correctly, but the thing I disliked the most about it, was the cheesy feeling handle, and I'm a FRN fan, and generally like synthetic handles. It did have a good blade profile, on the flip side.
 
whetrock said:
Sog Aegis... I tried to like it, but the thing had an annoying amount of play, and wouldn't stay tight. I generally like AUS-8, but it sorta left me cold, if I remember correctly, but the thing I disliked the most about it, was the cheesy feeling handle, and I'm a FRN fan, and generally like synthetic handles. It did have a good blade profile, on the flip side.
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I purchased a tanto/camo scaled assisted Aegis... got rid of it quickly, felt like a toy.
Ever since then... I don't care for assisted knives.
Two years ago I got rid of the two Hawks they made... and bought myself an RMJ 'Jenny Wren'.
 
I just bought a mini grip, so far i'm satisfied. It has opened in my pocket a couple of times as I was drawing it and of course I cut the crap out of my hand. It's not very funny when the firearms instructor bleeds on his gun during a class full of shooters, especially when he's that "knife guy" LOL.
 
S&W unfortunately, although I initially had a favorable opinion of the tanto folding knife I purchased at Pep Boys. It was quick to deploy, and came with a razor sharp edge. Sadly after a drop on the floor the pivot screw sheared off on one side, making it useless.

Also, all the knives at the local mall asian themed "cutlery" shop. Everything there is cheap china made copies, all poor quality.
 
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