Knockoff zt?

All you have to do is go to Ailiexpress and look it up. I found one exactly like it with a serial number that just happened to be 100 higher.
 
KAI produces ZT 0562cf in cpm 20cv.

The cut out of the lock bar on my ZT 0562 and 0562cf is obviously different, unless one of them is a fake, which is very unlikely.

The titanium lock side color can look very different depending on the light, so I would not rely on it to tell if the knife is real or fake.

Honestly, given the poor quality of the few photos, I cannot say for sure if it is real or fake. The only thing I have doubt is the pattern of the cf, which looks more like that of ZT 0562cf in M390. But again, it may be just the light.

The story that the seller is telling, I am not sure. Does KAI put a ser number on a prototype knife?

Edit: took another close look at the OP photos. The head of the thumb stud does not look right, nor seems the surface finish and pattern of the cf scale. Other things, I cannot tell.
 
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You got me casting about the web, sharp_edge sharp_edge , and I surely did find 0562CFs in 20CV as you most correctly observed. I found a couple dealers that listed the 204P knives as discontinued, so if the 20CVs are the current model, perhaps the 2017 Shot Show "prototype" timing is appropriate.

Of the lock-side pics of 20CV knives I found, only four showed the full blade. Three had "CPM 20CV" where the serial number usually goes, and the other had a 5-digit serial number there that started in 11.

I would still encourage our OP to get some good pics and as much info to KAI as possible to get a definitive answer on the authenticity of his knife. Here's hoping he gets a clear and positive response.
 
sharp_edge said:
KAI produces ZT 0562cf in cpm 20cv.

The cut out of the lock bar on my ZT 0562 and 0562cf is obviously different, unless one of them is a fake, which is very unlikely.

The titanium lock side color can look very different depending on the light, so I would not rely on it to tell if the knife is real or fake.

Honestly, given the poor quality of the few photos, I cannot say for sure if it is real or fake. The only thing I have doubt is the pattern of the cf, which looks more like that of ZT 0562cf in M390. But again, it may be just the light.

The story that the seller is telling, I am not sure. Does KAI put a ser number on a prototype knife?
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Agreed. I'd suggest sending it to Kai/zt to verify if you wanted to be sure. Goto the warranty section on the site and send them a message about the issue.

The fake I see on dhgate is 10091 and they probably are all the same # but dunno. Looks a bit different if you ask me but so hard to say for sure Givin the photos from both sources. 10369 on ali.

But I found the photo that you can tell exactly if it's a fake or not.

KESIWO-0562_CF-_Ball-_Bearing-_Folding-_Knife-_Titanium-_CF-_Handle-_CPM-.png

Two fold. The blade stops are different than a real one and see where the gimping and the swedge meet are also different (at least on mine)*.

You need some better pictures to show us. I think it may be a fake possibily. The whole thing sounds fishy. The fakes are like 60ish so if u paid more than that you got had.
 
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After looking at all the pics several times and comparing from the legit pictures and fakes... Zoomed in and not. You definitely have a fake and the seller lied to you. The weave isn't even the same. The blade stops are rounded and not like an original. The swedge is off too.

It's harder to tell from the real thing. Hope u didn't pay more than 60. Report the seller in the good bad and ugly section.

Try and get your money back or reverse charges.
 
Not titanium, not real. The lock side is not milled the way zt does it. Lets say it is a prototype, then its all just for show. Blade is probably not heat treated and isn’t 20cv. The carbon fiber scale is way off.
 
Silverdog said:
Received reply from seller along with receipt from Zt shot show 2017, it was a prototype or preproduction model, the same one as from bladereviews.com with 20cv instead of m390. Thanks for the help everyone, bladeforums is awesome!
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He's pulling your leg.
 
Thanks all, I’m going to see what Kai says because on the review on https://bladereviews.com mine looks identical with the exception of m390, mines got the same cf scale pattern, same titanium color, so as long as his is legit, mine looks like perhaps the first 20cv model with the m390 handle, his lock bar cutout is identical as well along with the thumb studs. And thanks for all of the replies!
 
Serial number over 10,000 like yours is should not be the old style lock cut out. Mine is not over 10,000 and you will notice how my lock cut out is.
 
Silverdog said:
Thanks all, I’m going to see what Kai says because on the review on https://bladereviews.com mine looks identical with the exception of m390, mines got the same cf scale pattern, same titanium color, so as long as his is legit, mine looks like perhaps the first 20cv model with the m390 handle, his lock bar cutout is identical as well along with the thumb studs. And thanks for all of the replies!
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I have owned two 0562cf, one in cts-204p and the other cpm 20cv and have seen pictures of many 0562cf in these two steels or M390. None of the non-m390 0562cf has the cf scale pattern shown in your picture. But as a prototype (if it is), I am not sure about it. Again, the thumb stud tip of yours does not look like any legit ZT 0562/0562cf that I have seen.

Would be interested in what KAI says.
 
I emailed kai and will see what they say, the seller I bought from has over 400 positive reviews and only 2 negative reviews. I sent them all of the info and pictures to see what they say about it. To me it either looks like a 20cv blade with m390 body or a fake, I’ll post back when they respond.
 
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Thanks all, I’m going to see what Kai says because on the review on https://bladereviews.com mine looks identical with the exception of m390, mines got the same cf scale pattern, same titanium color, so as long as his is legit, mine looks like perhaps the first 20cv model with the m390 handle, his lock bar cutout is identical as well along with the thumb studs. And thanks for all of the replies!
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Yours is definitely a fake. The bladereview one has crappy images I can't zoom into. It may or may not be fake. Too hard to tell. But the cf weave looks wrong.

Ebay reviews mean nothing.
 
Alright, I called KAI and this one appears to be legit, the serial number is authentic and according to the seller and zt was sold at shotshow 2017, Kai doesn’t keep records of when The steels were switched however this appears to be a first production run of the new 20cv steel. Kai can’t tell for sure without me sending it in but by the pictures and description it appears authentic.
 
Eg
10,000 first 20cv
11,00p first 20cv with new machining
Something like spyderco cqi where maybe the new cf scale didn’t come until
10500 or 11000 etc.
 
You probably know a lot more about knives than I do because Ive only been collecting for a year or so, but if the seller says he got it at shot show and zt says that serial number was sold at shot show, the seller would have to have gotten a fake with the same serial number and have known that serial number was sold at shot show as well.
 
And he sold a prototype knowing it was and didn't even mention it until you questioned him. And the prototype just happened to have a number over 10,000 and it has the early ti handle.
 
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