Knockoff zt?

like others have said, this kind of stuff is why I only buy new and from places that I know wouldn't be selling fakes (large gun shops, reputable online knife retailers, local knife retailers). I don't want to deal with the brain damage of not knowing if I got scammed or wasted money a fake knife. Yeah, it's a little more expensive going my route, but I also have zero concerns about whether or not my $150-$400 knife is a counterfeit.

Regarding the OP's knife in question, I would send it in since that sounds like the only way you'll know for sure. It'll suck to be without a knife that you just bought for a few weeks but you'll be able to forget about this and free up brain space for other concerns.
 
Silverdog said:
Cf + steel is stronger than just cf, it is more rigid
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Several of the knives I have are just carbon fiber. Yes cf+steel is stronger than cf+ti. But cf is fine alone as long as it's made right. Example is the 0850 no liners at all. And u have lots others like that.

Additionally I'm guessing they do it with cf+steel because that's how hinderer's do it?
 
There have been several people who bought new only to find out they had a fake from a returned knife from dealers too. I'm not advocating not buying new from dealers of course, as that's what I do 90% of the time too, but it's not fool proof these days. Especially for brands like BM and ZT as it seems they have had the most knives cloned.

ZT will keep your knife if it's a clone and you send it in for verification correct? I believe that was stated in another thread recently.


The terrible thing about free soloing difficult routes is the chance that faced with ultimate danger and need for ultimate self-control, one’s nerve might fail and cause an error. That’s irony of it, that fear could short-circuit skill, that one would die as a direct result of being afraid to die. - Royal Robbins
 
TW-Knife said:
There have been several people who bought new only to find out they had a fake from a returned knife from dealers too. I'm not advocating not buying new from dealers of course, as that's what I do 90% of the time too, but it's not fool proof these days. Especially for brands like BM and ZT as it seems they have had the most knives cloned.

ZT will keep your knife if it's a clone and you send it in for verification correct? I believe that was stated in another thread recently.


The terrible thing about free soloing difficult routes is the chance that faced with ultimate danger and need for ultimate self-control, one’s nerve might fail and cause an error. That’s irony of it, that fear could short-circuit skill, that one would die as a direct result of being afraid to die. - Royal Robbins
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Yes zt will keep it if its a counterfeit.
 
I sent the pictures in and they said they can't verify without seeing it although it does not appear to be fake. Is there a chance it's a fake yes though very slim. The machining is great and is better than some of my benchmades that I own it's real titanium where most of the counterfeits are steel. The seller showed me a receipt and gave me the option to return it however it seems unlikely it is a fake, the grind, the Swedge, the lockbar insert, the lockbar stabilizer are all perfect. Most fakes are filled with gunk on the inside, this one is not.
 
It's fake. Nothing about your story adds up. Yes, fakes are ti, no they're not filled with gunk. Yes they look close, that's why they're called clones. Your knife is exactly like the one on Aliexpress. Right down to the lack of detail on the lockbar cutout. ZT didn't change it back. You're not fooling anyone besides yourself. You got yourself a genuine fake ZT 0562.
 
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looks like a fake to me. send it to kai and lets see what they actually say........
 
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Silverdog said:
I sent the pictures in and they said they can't verify without seeing it although it does not appear to be fake. ....
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So I don't follow what you are getting at. You asked if the knife was real. Many here said "No." Now you say "Yes."

Are you trying to convince the folks who said "No" you bought a real knife?
Are you trying to convince yourself you bought a real knife?

o_O

I'm just trying to figure out where this all is going.
 
I'm still convinced it's fake and everything you've said is fairly fishy.

Please don't sell that knife to anyone as real. Especially not here.
 
Silverdog said:
Alright, I called KAI and this one appears to be legit, the serial number is authentic and according to the seller and zt was sold at shotshow 2017
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Silverdog said:
I sent the pictures in and they said they can't verify without seeing it although it does not appear to be fake.
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Ok, I'm confused. In one post you say that ZT verified the SN as sold at Blade 2017 and in the next you say they can't verify without the knife in hand. For clarity and future reference does ZT track sales by SN as you claimed? So, you emailed pictures and info to KAI then tracked down the email recipient on the phone? Do they even offer opinions on the phone? You do realize that many things don't add up here?

Is this a case of you really wanting this knife to be legit?
 
Mo2 said:
I'm still convinced it's fake and everything you've said is fairly fishy.

Please don't sell that knife to anyone as real. Especially not here.
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Yes, what he said!
 
Hackenslash said:
Is this a case of you really wanting this knife to be legit?
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That is the impression I get...and that's cool...I am just not seeing how everyone else is involved. It seems like a pretty solid argument for it being fake has been made by other members and ignored.

Which again is fine, but I just don't see the point. So confused.
 
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jill jackson said:
No they cannot and will not verify any knife, by any means other than having it in hand.
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That's kind of shitty. You pay $180-$300+ for a knife and when it shows up you have suspicions that it's a fake. So you send it in only for them to take the damn thing without telling you. That'd piss me off mostly because you have no recourse to get the money back from the seller.

I understand ZT's policy on taking the fakes off the market, they're literally stealing business from them, but without a way to varify it's real without sending it in screws the buyers over(especially the ones who got duped).
 
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