LB7 Bear Paw LB Survey

Gifts to my 2 Brothers

C35626 – 4 pin (1981?) & D89161 – 4 pin (1982?)

I predict 2 new Schrade collectors

Still sitting at:
N21301 has 4-pins
N29256 has 3-pins

Howie
 
this just won BB55299 three pin.
i think we have seen that BB is the last of the serialized knives? anyone with a BC?
 
AA65958
3 pin
"Schrade+" over
"USA LB7"

This knife is DEFINITELY from 1983 so it's a good one for the records!!!

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Dave if that AA three pin is 1983 it effectively throws the three pin versus 4 pin time frame into a tail spin...does it not? If there are 4 pins with later serial numbers,how can that be?..unless the engraved 1983 on your knife does not relate to the year of actual presentation/manufacture?....just thinking out aloud.....what are your thoughts?.....Hoo Roo
 
Larry303 said:
Dave if that AA three pin is 1983 it effectively throws the three pin versus 4 pin time frame into a tail spin...does it not? If there are 4 pins with later serial numbers,how can that be?..unless the engraved 1983 on your knife does not relate to the year of actual presentation/manufacture?....just thinking out aloud.....what are your thoughts?.....Hoo Roo
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LB7 Collectors -- Love the LB7's - have a bunch of 'em
Since I read this thread, I've done a little tracking myself to try and see where the change from 4-Pin to 3-Pin took place, serial#-wise

With all the auctions I've checked and sellers I've questioned, the best answers were right here in this thread!!

So far: N21301 has 4-pins N37957 has 3-pins


Howie
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Larry, I think this fits in correctly in the scheme. If it was a SINGLE alpha it would have messed everything up but it's one of the first double alphas that started after they had run through the whole alphabet once already. I think Howie is right in the quote.

I have a sneaking suspicion that you are experiencing a "momentary lapse of reason" to quote Pink Floyd because I'm sure you know this and just forgot for a minute. Between serials, tang stamps and the ever elusive Meerschaum Bone there are a lot of dates to remember and I know I get a bit mixed up sometimes.

Maybe we can get Michael to weigh in on this as he seems to be the serial # guru.

Cheers! D.
 
We've seen A through Z with numerals after they went as high as possible with numerics alone. Then AA with numerals thru ?? with numerals. I don't remember how high they went beyond AA (AZ?) But I don't remember them making it to CC before they gave serialization up as a lost cause. In fact, I don't remember any BB serials at all, but I haven't been watching like many of you have. Sales of the LB-7 outstripped the wildest dreams of the Baer brothers. It was a heck of a knife for the money. Still is.
 
G'day Dave, I guess where I was coming from was, we have previously ascertained in this thread that the first Million numerically numbered,were produced by early 1980 when Schrade then commenced Alpha numbering A-Z at 99,999 each alpha number series..<during that time they also changed from 4 pin to 3 pin>...with there being 26 letters in the alphabet and with your number being AA65958,then it would mean by only 1983, Schrade had used/manufactured all the Alpha numbers representing 2,600,000 LB7's plus the initial Numerical Million to 1980 plus another AA 60,000....and yet as in your 3 pin package they were still in 1983 only using your early black sheath plus the Uncle Henry White box after manufacturing some 3,060,000 LB7's...I need to do more homework obviously, however I believe there may be later dated <than 1983> LB7's that were still in the original A-Z alpha series...bearing in mind I believe many later serial numbered had the Uncle Henry tang signature as well.......to sum up if your 1983 time frame was correct every 4 pin plus any 3 pin A to Z would have had to be manufactured prior to 1983...does this LB7 thread reporting with known dates of ownership/new purchase bear that out?...hmmmm......Hoo Roo.
 
Larry303 said:
G'day Dave, I guess where I was coming from was, we have previously ascertained in this thread that the first Million numerically numbered,were produced by early 1980 when Schrade then commenced Alpha numbering A-Z at 99,999 each alpha number series..<during that time they also changed from 4 pin to 3 pin>...with there being 26 letters in the alphabet and with your number being AA65958,then it would mean by only 1983, Schrade had used/manufactured all the Alpha numbers representing 2,600,000 LB7's plus the initial Numerical Million to 1980 plus another AA 60,000....and yet as in your 3 pin package they were still in 1983 only using your early black sheath plus the Uncle Henry White box after manufacturing some 3,060,000 LB7's...I need to do more homework obviously, however I believe there may be later dated <than 1983> LB7's that were still in the original A-Z alpha series...bearing in mind I believe many later serial numbered had the Uncle Henry tang signature as well.......to sum up if your 1983 time frame was correct every 4 pin plus any 3 pin A to Z would have had to be manufactured prior to 1983...does this LB7 thread reporting with known dates of ownership/new purchase bear that out?...hmmmm......Hoo Roo.
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All I can say is that knife was sold to MFTHBA members in 1983. For sure. Mos def. lol Thanks for digging deep on this one Larry. It's been stretching my memory as well. Cheers! D.
 
T71797
AY45195
3 pin
"Schrade+" over
"USA LB7"

Clueless of date it was manufactured. Would 1985 be a good guess? ***Update*** Just bought another NIB on Ebay T71797, gentleman told me he acquired it new in the mid 80's.
 
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just got this one in. the seller did not know the serial number, in fact told me it had none.
LB 7 1371 with staglon handles.
 

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Delmas2 -- Nice Catch!!
Michael - Yup I think we've seen other early LB8's with LB7 blades

Or was it that the very 1st LB7's had staglon scales - I'm confused :confused:
I remember that early salesmans demo set with the flocked insert and clear cover but don't remember if those were staglon or the wood scales.

And this one has 4-Pins not 3-Pins like most LB8's -- :thumbup:

-- Howie

Correction - found the post for the early LB7 - wood scales
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/736956-A-VERY-Early-LB-7
 
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The very first LB8-type knives had brass shields, four pins and were stamped LB7 from the 1978 Christmas Dixie Edition set (w/ UH144). Then came nickel silver shields, four pins, stamped LB7 from the Dixie Collection sets in 1980 (w/ UH144).

The actual production LB8 was introduced in 1981 and we know they were serialized. The old flyer from 1981 shows a three pin LB8 stamped LB8 as well (http://www.collectors-of-schrades-r.us/FLYERS/1980s/pages/SC81-7.htm) which makes me wonder if any "LB7" stamped four pin knives were sold as actual LB8s.

I'm thinking it is also a possibility that delmas new knife is from a Dixie Collection set and has lost the fragile etch somewhere along the way. The 1371 serial number would be the first 4-digit Dixie I've seen though.

Does anyone else have knives like delmas' that have no etch? Has anyone seen a four-digit serial Dixie Collection set?

It's either the lowest serial LB8 or the highest Dixie Collection serial but I'm not sure we can really be sure either way yet. Sorry to muddy the waters but I thought this was worth considering.

Great knife either way! Enjoy.
 
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