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New addition to the lambfoot collection. Never seen one with a punch before.
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Beautiful pick up Paul- what a stunner- I was so tempted MANY times to start bidding on that 
That's I*xl's punch as well- so there's no Mickey mousing with this one! Theres not a lot of English Punches out there. 
That's I*xl's punch as well- so there's no Mickey mousing with this one! Theres not a lot of English Punches out there. 
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Thanks for letting me own this one Paul!! First I*XL like this I have ever seen!! Great find by you, then to me - arrived safe and sound as you can see!!There's not a lot of English Punches out there.
It even has my favorite admonition stamped on the pile side, "Oil the Joints!!!"
George Wostenholm, 3 3/8", Lambfoot main, and a leather punch!!
The Blade has a perfect half-stop, and the punch has a cam tang!!
The knife is excellent, and unsharpened!!
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Great gesture Paul.
Karma, you are meant to have it."Oil the Joints!!!"
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With the help of a friend!!Great gesture Paul.
Karma, you are meant to have it.
I couldn't agree more!!!
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It was not hard letting that one go to you, Charlie. That knife belongs in your amazing HJ collection.Thanks for letting me own this one Paul!! First I*XL like this I have ever seen!! Great find by you, then to me - arrived safe and sound as you can see!!
It even has my favorite admonition stamped on the pile side, "Oil the Joints!!!"
George Wostenholm, 3 3/8", Lambfoot main, and a leather punch!!
The Blade has a perfect half-stop, and the punch has a cam tang!!
The the knife is excellent, and unsharpened!!
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Well done Charlie, what a fantastic pick up, and to Paul real gusto letting such a knife slip from the fingers- but in saying that knife simply is in the best place with Charlie!
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Hugely interesting knife Charlie, and not a pattern I've seen before by Wostenholm. The punch differs considerably from this 1930's model.Thanks for letting me own this one Paul!! First I*XL like this I have ever seen!! Great find by you, then to me - arrived safe and sound as you can see!!
It even has my favorite admonition stamped on the pile side, "Oil the Joints!!!"
George Wostenholm, 3 3/8", Lambfoot main, and a leather punch!!
The Blade has a perfect half-stop, and the punch has a cam tang!!
The the knife is excellent, and unsharpened!!
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Thanks for that punch picture, Jack!! It does appear that a different form was used to forge/stamp the punches in each case!!
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I thought it would inform anyone interested in Wostenholm punches to see these side by side!!
The left one is the punch from that unusual Lambfoot Harness Jack, and the right one is from a Wostenholm 4-blade Cattle knife!!
The engineering of both blades adheres to similar principles, a flat interior, stamp-forged punch, but the final forms vary slightly!!!
The backs are lightly rounded for ease of passage through the material being punched!!
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Very interesting. Similar but not. I go for the pointier one everytime
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Charlie, thank you for showing us that, I definitely see what Jack and yourself have recognized the differences between the two, 
The rounding off on the Tang that shows the most difference (in my view). I am in the mind same punch - different day, that we see on most of the other Punches that at times have slight variations between them, especially when the Punch is in a smaller knife compared to a larger knife's frame. I also see quite the difference in the N.Y.K. Co Wallkill River Punches where they have the same patent # - yet show a difference in that Tang area.
Charlie at some stage Sir, can we see the comparisons of the Pile side, the Tang shape is the same and I am wondering if the Shoulder formations are the same Pile-side?
Many thanks in advance my friend - and thanks again for sharing these awesome knives for us to take in
The rounding off on the Tang that shows the most difference (in my view). I am in the mind same punch - different day, that we see on most of the other Punches that at times have slight variations between them, especially when the Punch is in a smaller knife compared to a larger knife's frame. I also see quite the difference in the N.Y.K. Co Wallkill River Punches where they have the same patent # - yet show a difference in that Tang area.
Charlie at some stage Sir, can we see the comparisons of the Pile side, the Tang shape is the same and I am wondering if the Shoulder formations are the same Pile-side?
Many thanks in advance my friend - and thanks again for sharing these awesome knives for us to take in
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Here are the pile sides, Duncan!!Many thanks in advance my friend - and thanks again for sharing these awesome knives for us to take in
Not too different - the rounded bolster covers more of the tang!!
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Thank you very much Charlie- would you mind if I copied those photos and filed them?
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Thanks Charlie! Can't get enough of this kind of technical / historical knowledge. Please keep it up.
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Taking in the discussion of the I*XL Punch, and there not being a great variety of Sheffield punches, I really like the I*XL Punch- its so so so close to the Boker punch.
A wee while ago I was quite thrilled to see this punch on Charlie's Cattle Knife, in the " Show us your Cattle Knife" Thread. Post #940. (see link below).
Here: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/round-up-those-cattle-knives.1548498/page-47
The Punch on Charlies Cattle Knife is one I haven't seen a Sheffield Knife featuring one like it, so that always brings on many questions, such an interesting Knife!
Speaking of interesting I found a photo of a C. Johnstone Flag Knife that (from memory, I will have to look where I filed that photo) has a N.Y.K. Co Harrison Punch that looks to be correct to the knife and not simply placed in the knife at some stage- so a USA made punch in a Sheffield Knife, I wondered if N.Y.K.Co made that knife, so I wonder if something happened like that with the Cattle knife of Charlies in the above link.
I picked up this Wade & Butcher a while ago. Horn Handles and all Steel Construction, having not a lot of Sheffield Harness Jacks - I really wanted to see this knife up close. I have always liked the Wade and Butcher Logo. In saying this- this isn't the most spectacular Harness Jack out there- but one I am glad to own.
A wee while ago I was quite thrilled to see this punch on Charlie's Cattle Knife, in the " Show us your Cattle Knife" Thread. Post #940. (see link below).
Here: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/round-up-those-cattle-knives.1548498/page-47
The Punch on Charlies Cattle Knife is one I haven't seen a Sheffield Knife featuring one like it, so that always brings on many questions, such an interesting Knife!
Speaking of interesting I found a photo of a C. Johnstone Flag Knife that (from memory, I will have to look where I filed that photo) has a N.Y.K. Co Harrison Punch that looks to be correct to the knife and not simply placed in the knife at some stage- so a USA made punch in a Sheffield Knife, I wondered if N.Y.K.Co made that knife, so I wonder if something happened like that with the Cattle knife of Charlies in the above link.
I picked up this Wade & Butcher a while ago. Horn Handles and all Steel Construction, having not a lot of Sheffield Harness Jacks - I really wanted to see this knife up close. I have always liked the Wade and Butcher Logo. In saying this- this isn't the most spectacular Harness Jack out there- but one I am glad to own.
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Another fairly recent arrival is this Harness Jack that goes back fairly early, defined in a time frame of 4 years.
Not a name you see out there much is LEHRKIND DAEVEL Co. Milwaukee, this company was open between 1890 and 1910, they contracted the making of this Harness Jack to Washington Cutlery who were in operations between the years 1898 - 1902, so right on the border line of 1800's and 1900's - really interesting.
There's a difference with the older knives, the Bolsters have a slightly rounder shape which I really am fond of.
Earlier styled punch, all steel construction.
The walk and talk of this knife is still superb for a knife that is 1 & 1/4 centuries old, sure it has sharpening , but careful sharpening at that alongside the long pull and nice Swage work.
I just really like this Harness Jack.
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Not a name you see out there much is LEHRKIND DAEVEL Co. Milwaukee, this company was open between 1890 and 1910, they contracted the making of this Harness Jack to Washington Cutlery who were in operations between the years 1898 - 1902, so right on the border line of 1800's and 1900's - really interesting.
There's a difference with the older knives, the Bolsters have a slightly rounder shape which I really am fond of.
Earlier styled punch, all steel construction.
The walk and talk of this knife is still superb for a knife that is 1 & 1/4 centuries old, sure it has sharpening , but careful sharpening at that alongside the long pull and nice Swage work.
I just really like this Harness Jack.
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Interesting old knife, Duncan!! Remarkable details!! I've seen "Washington" before but have never seen Lehrkind Daevel Co.!!!!!Another fairly recent arrival is this Harness Jack that goes back fairly early, defined in a time frame of 4 years.
Not a name you see out there much is LEHRKIND DAEVEL Co. Milwaukee, this company was open between 1890 and 1910, they contracted the making of this Harness Jack to Washington Cutlery who were in operations between the years 1998 - 1902, so right on the border line of 1800's and 1900's - really interesting.
There's a difference with the older knives, the Bolsters have a slightly rounder shape which I really am fond of.
Earlier styled punch, all steel construction.
The walk and talk of this knife is still superb for a knife that is 1 & 1/4 centuries old, sure it has sharpening , but careful sharpening at that alongside the long pull and nice Swage work.
I just really like this Harness Jack.
We've gotten some interesting names between us! I wonder how many odd names are still out there???
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Thank you Charlie , lets see if we can find all those elusive names out there!
Here is another Harness Jack - again, not a show stopper, and I'm hoping you notice I don't try to "bling" my knives up in any way at all, I like them just the way they are if they don't have active rust on them - as we know that has to be stopped.
Tang stamped: Cattaraugus, Little Valley, N.Y.
Nicely used Harness Jack, sure it has wear- but respectable wear. Most Cattaraugus Harness Jacks I see have a very generic styled punch Flat face with a small side wall.
This one grabbed my attention as it has a Alvord Punch, as we know Alvord being one of the two Empire Punches.
Both Tangs face side stamped with the Cattaraugus. Little Valley. N.Y
A tiny detail I also saw was that on the pile side of the punch- Alvord and Empire Punches are near perfectly exact to each other the shoulders come up to the center of the punch and slowly blend out- its a very defined pattern as most different brands of Punches have in their small different ways.
Punch pile side stamp: U.S PAT. 833146.
This Alvord's shoulders don't do that, the tang cuts straight across, I have quite a few Alvord and Empire Punches, and only ever had the one Alvord that had this- now a second one joins the team.
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, lets see if we can find all those elusive names out there!Here is another Harness Jack - again, not a show stopper, and I'm hoping you notice I don't try to "bling" my knives up in any way at all, I like them just the way they are if they don't have active rust on them - as we know that has to be stopped.
Tang stamped: Cattaraugus, Little Valley, N.Y.
Nicely used Harness Jack, sure it has wear- but respectable wear. Most Cattaraugus Harness Jacks I see have a very generic styled punch Flat face with a small side wall.
This one grabbed my attention as it has a Alvord Punch, as we know Alvord being one of the two Empire Punches.
Both Tangs face side stamped with the Cattaraugus. Little Valley. N.Y
A tiny detail I also saw was that on the pile side of the punch- Alvord and Empire Punches are near perfectly exact to each other the shoulders come up to the center of the punch and slowly blend out- its a very defined pattern as most different brands of Punches have in their small different ways.
Punch pile side stamp: U.S PAT. 833146.
This Alvord's shoulders don't do that, the tang cuts straight across, I have quite a few Alvord and Empire Punches, and only ever had the one Alvord that had this- now a second one joins the team.
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