Lets talk GEC!

ephsea said:
How can we call it sawcut when it's *not*. It's CNC'd, great if you like it but it's milled, not sawn. It doesn't look remotely sawcut to my eye. I run a tablesaw quite a bit and have seen plenty of rough sawcuts. Sawcut style? Imitation sawcut?
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Well my favorite GEC has avocado bone covers…I’ve cut open a lot of avocados in my life and I have never found a bone so I assume they take some liberty with the naming.
 
alpinebear said:
Well my favorite GEC has avocado bone covers…I’ve cut open a lot of avocados in my life and I have never found a bone so I assume they take some liberty with the naming.
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So caramel candy apple,nope my ears are plugged
 
I do like the looks of the new sawcut jigging but it probably should be called imitation sawcut if it isnt...ya know....actually sawcut. I bet it feels great though.
No one would like it if they got a "genuine stag" GEC knife thats actually Staglon delrin like Schrade uses. They should be honest about the product, people would still like it.
 
Maybe they've been using CNC for bone treatment for years and everyone were happy about the final product, but now when it became kind of official (did it though??) everyone seem upset. I don't know, for me those big, pronounced cuts never looked like actual saw cuts. Look at recent Cooper's where bone was obviously cut by an actual saw, but would you like the same ragged look on your GECs? I wouldn't. Also, judging by all high quality pics available at the moment I can't tell any difference between cuts in recent tractor green and some earlier years' sawcut bones. Not to mention that GEC's sawcut already differed a bit from time to time.

And oh, hey, maybe it's a step forward to show their willingness to work with more different materials. Maybe they'll grind some M390 blades using that CNC machine(s), put a huge cost markup thence, and make happy all those folks who complained about simple steels and flippers and such. 😜
 
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I'm conflicted, on one hand I really like how nice the sawcut pattern looks on the new tractor green's and the ritchlite. On the other hand part of the appeal for me in traditional knives is the traditional methods used to create them and the materials used. Of course those materials and methods have advanced over time and that's a great thing but if it's not actually cut with a saw it just feels wrong to call it, "sawcut".

I promise to not tell if you don't though... 😃
 
We all know that each GEC knife is made by hand by just one man, Bill Howard, from start to finish, including producing the steel, collecting (through hunting, by bow) or producing the handle materials, shaping, tempering and sharpening the blades and, stabilising, dying and jigging the covers. No power tools or any other powered equipment is used in the process. I do not think they even have electricity at GEC.


some people may actually believe that to be true, 😁
 
I'm not trashing the handles, they look nice and obviously they're selling. It's nearly perfect, what most people want, I think - an intelligent way to produce. That being said, I do like raggedy, irregular, beat on GEC's the best. I'm nobody's target market, though, and I'm happy to find an excuse to sit out this run 😁. Boy I used a lot of commas there!
 
calm said:
We all know that each GEC knife is made by hand by just one man, Bill Howard, from start to finish, including producing the steel, collecting (through hunting, by bow) or producing the handle materials, shaping, tempering and sharpening the blades and, stabilising, dying and jigging the covers. No power tools or any other powered equipment is used in the process. I do not think they even have electricity at GEC.


some people may actually believe that to be true, 😁
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He uses a bow!? That seems like cheating.

My preference for sawcut is very shallow, like the BF 21, and it MUST have a slight curve. I've seen a few knives by other makers with sawcut that was straight lines, and it looked weird to me.

Please pardon the non-sawcut 97 in this pic, it's the only shot I have handy that shows the sawcut on the BF 21.

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CVamberbonehead said:
I do like the looks of the new sawcut jigging but it probably should be called imitation sawcut if it isnt...ya know....actually sawcut. I bet it feels great though.
No one would like it if they got a "genuine stag" GEC knife thats actually Staglon delrin like Schrade uses. They should be honest about the product, people would still like it.
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I don't think that it is a fair equivalent to compare "actual" cut-with-a-saw sawcut jigging vs CNC sawcut jigging to real stag vs imitation stag.

It may be more fair to compare natural grown-from-a-deer stag to grown-in-a-lab (a la Impossible Meat™) stag, if we ever developed such a thing. In that case, and as long as it has all the same properties as grown-from-a-deer stag, I couldn't care as the result is a greater availability of high-quality stag for me. 🤷

What is a saw? They come in many distinct shapes, sizes, and functions. Chainsaws, bow saws, metal saws, wood saws, hand saws, circular saws, etc. I think the argument could be made that a saw is a typically toothed (unless you're taking about tile saws...) tool used for separating material. In that case, a CNC machine could very well fit within that broad definition of a saw.

While I understand that some folks may prefer deeper or more shallow jigging, or that some may prefer a more chaotic or more regular pattern, I fail to see how which tool was used to accomplish the job matters in the least. 🤷
 
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