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Yes an interesting SFO, there may be others.

Sometimes I don't mind eating my words, A Bocote 38 is on its way across the Atlantic now ;) Looks really striped in the dealer's pix so I'm thrilled. Stalking the Postman begins again...:D Yes it is like a Laguiole, one of my favourite knives, but with the huge advantage of a covered tang/sunk-joint:thumbsup:

Thanks, Will
 
I'm not sure what you're talking about, do the stag models not have a shield? The graphic of the upcoming wood model seemed to have a standard shield on it.


Unrelated...does anyone know what kind of oil GEC uses at the factory?

I posted this a while back and still had it in my Photobucket. This explains the stag issue.
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Not interested in the #38 single blade pattern. But happy to see bocote being used again.
 
Any guess what the next big thing will be? A run of 25's, 47's, something in 440C? More Northwoods?

,,,Mike in Canada
 
Reckon Thanks for posting that justification from GEC. I still don't agree with it, this stuff about if we're not getting better we're going backwards is just a vapid slogan. They made a big thing-correctly-about pinning shields as opposed to glueing in CASE, CS,Queen style. So I don't see how they can justify funking it on Stag. Yes it's tricky, yes you may wreck some slabs if you don't know what you're doing...but I've got Stag knives from them with remarkably inlet shields, and it really sets off the material. A mark of craftsmanship and cutler skill no less.

As for not getting better etc, as has been pointed out, some experimenting with different steel would not hurt, like producing an all stainless knife including the liners. If we're still considering Stag for instance, all steel liners or stainless liners do it a great deal more favours than cheapie brass which not only smells, but often ends up greening the Stag with verdigris. Just saying'....
 
Happy to see they'll make some #66s again. Will's slim wants some comoany and I need a stockman. :D I haven't been excited about anything from GEC this year, even the #13 whittler I bought was in a haste and I now regret it ... Funny how much of the older models really make my eyes spark when I see pictures of them (old 15s, 33, 12, 33, 38, 53, 55, 56, 62, 66, 68 etc etc), which I can't say about anything from this year. So I'll nicely wait for the 66 to be made, hopefully I can get one before they're all gone. Would be nice if they made some of them in stainless, like the 53 stockmen. And if not, I'll be happy as well. A new run of buckaroos wouldn't harm anyone either. ;)
 
ISKRA, the list above contains some great knives that would be nice to see reintroduced. Two standouts on that list that need to be brought back (those I don't have) are the 66 in two blade versions and the 68 White Owl in stainless.
 
ISKRA, the list above contains some great knives that would be nice to see reintroduced. Two standouts on that list that need to be brought back (those I don't have) are the 66 in two blade versions and the 68 White Owl in stainless.

Agreed, they're just great and a stainless version would be very interesting, with the right scale materials. It'd make a nice "summer knife".
 
I just popped the tube on my 38 special in red linen micarta! I didn't really need it, but I have a weakness for the scale material.

I apologize for the lack of pics, but I wanted to report my satisfaction anyway. It did not arrive "totally Perfect" like many of my GECs have, but the flaws are pretty minor (scuffed shield being the glaring one). I only mention this because so often folks say GEC doesn't get any criticism. ETA: Flitz has un-scuffed it!

Certainly nothing that will impact my enjoyment of it, as I intend to carry it around for quite a bit. The 38 frame is just a great frame. I think it makes any blade combo (like the pruner) a bit more appealing than it might be on a different frame.

Can't wait to see the Northfields!
 
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Glad to hear you're enjoying your new 38, Kiteman. I love the pattern, but I think (unless they sneak in a run of whittlers or something) I'm going to sit this release out. I have too many knives that are too similar already.

I'm also excited about the upcoming run of 66 stockmen. It's just such a perfectly sized pattern and great knife. I have a few already, so I initially just reserved the Northfield jigged bone version. The Oily Creek Bone on the 54s, though, looked so good that I just hopped on the standby list for one of those as well. So it goes...

I was perhaps a touch snarky in my post about the Calf Pen above. As has been discussed much in this thread, though, it just seems like an odd knife with a really odd combination of blades and implements. I don't get it. Maybe it will wind up being really well received and super popular. We'll see, I suppose.

I haven't had any particularly strong feelings on the stag/pin issue and have certainly continued to buy GEC stag knives since they stopped putting the pins on them. That said, I definitely prefer them with the pins. Will makes such a great point:

Yes it's tricky, yes you may wreck some slabs if you don't know what you're doing...but I've got Stag knives from them with remarkably inlet shields, and it really sets off the material. A mark of craftsmanship and cutler skill no less.

I couldn't agree more. A big part of what makes some of my favorite stag GECs remarkable is precisely the way that the shield is incorporated into the slab. There's artistry there.

As a commodity, cattle bone is almost worthless. There are something like 100 million cows in the US. Conversely, many of the woods that Great Eastern uses are actually quite valuable. We happily, though, pay more for the bone handled knives not because of the intrinsic value of the material but because of the amazing work that goes into the processes of dying, jigging, etc...

I think that the same principle holds true for stag knives. I realize that we're talking about Sambar stag and not the antlers that they sell as dog chew toys at my local Agway. Still, the material isn't THAT valuable. What makes a stag knife special, I feel, is the cutler's skill in manipulating two slabs of stag to make them fit and work just so. I feel that incorporating a shield, enhances, rather than detracts from the artistry. As an example, here is a photo of three of my favorite stag GECs that I first posted a few weeks ago. The way that the shields are worked into the stag, particularly on the 77 on the right, makes them more unique, more special, more valuable - to me anyway.

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I thought I was really going to dislike shield-less stag but after getting a speaker jack in stag, I have kinda changed my tune. I never thought all that much of the "UN-X-LD" anyway, but huelsdonk, your examples are great, I hope you can score that oily creek 54! It would be hard to imagine vintage Case stags without shields.

I thought I was gonna pass on the 38 special but the price was just too reasonable. Once they're gone, they're gone, ya know? I am excited for more info on the Calf Ropers and Calf Pens.

Will there be surprise patterns on the 38?? Good question! I'm dyin' for an update to the production schedule.
 
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