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Camillus said:
jigged micarta has appeared previously but comments indicate it’s unpleasant to hold.
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Wurrwulf said:
Is this the first time GEC has done kydex sheaths? I'm curious to know the stock thickness of them, as well.
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They've done these same fillet knives before, with the Kydex sheaths. I read a review of one some time back, and seem to remember one complaint being that it was a bit stiff, but I can't seem to find that review now. An old listing from a GEC distributor (not sure if they're a BF supporting dealer, so I won't say which) lists the blade thickness as .070". I believe the blade lengths are 5" and 6" on the F905 and F906, respectively.

Ajd3530 said:
Heck, they should start jigging the micarta on some of their Tidioutes and F&F. That looks AWESOME!
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I like the look of it, as well, though it's more checkered than jigged. Might be kinda cool on a Bull Nose or Buster.
 
Wurrwulf said:
Is this the first time GEC has done kydex sheaths? I'm curious to know the stock thickness of them, as well.
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They're thin, as mentioned above. Some hard and some flexible I believe. Sheaths are nice and a good choice for a fishing knife, they did them with the previous run also.

Camillus said:
jigged micarta has appeared previously but comments indicate it’s unpleasant to hold.
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Jigged Micarta can be really really nice, very similar to bone. Especially paper Micarta, which I wish GEC would use. Checkered Micarta, which these are, is very aggressive. But that'd be great for a user filett knife.
 
Off topic, did I hear it here or am I making it up that I heard GEC will not be producing any more Beer Scouts?
 
tmd_87 said:
Off topic, did I hear it here or am I making it up that I heard GEC will not be producing any more Beer Scouts?
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I totally remember a conversation about that...it was around here somewhere. Something about how the Boy Scouts "said something" or some such. I forget the details, but there was a big back and forth IIRC.

My random morning GEC pondering revolved around these stainless filet knives. I would think that a stainless forum knife should be an option on the table.
 
Kiteman72 said:
I totally remember a conversation about that...it was around here somewhere. Something about how the Boy Scouts "said something" or some such. I forget the details, but there was a big back and forth IIRC.

My random morning GEC pondering revolved around these stainless filet knives. I would think that a stainless forum knife should be an option on the table.
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Okay that's what I thought.

Maybe GEC is gonna do another run of Radio Knives or crown lifters this year instead? Clip point, cap lifter combo would be sweet. Since I started hanging out on this sub forum I have heard about thewanting of a GEC scout knife that hasn't been produced yet. I think if they were to produce a real scout knife, they would fly off the shelves. Spear, cap lifter, sheepsfoot, punch, with a bail.
 
I see the fillet knives, as F905 and F906. The production schedule shows a 971 and 976. Did I miss something? What are those? Is it the 97 but with an extra digit for Tidioute vs Northfield?

EDIT: Nevermind, it's the blade. Sorry.
 
black mamba said:
With the current 500-1,000 piece runs, I believe flipping will quickly become a thing of the past . . . except for SFOs.
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Absolutely correct. We didn't have to see production increase all that much at all for demand to be completely sated in most cases.

I reckon there will always be exceptions, tho, the numbers were big on the recent Tidioute 85s and they still sold out fast.
 
tmd_87 said:
Off topic, did I hear it here or am I making it up that I heard GEC will not be producing any more Beer Scouts?
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I may not get all of the terminology correct, but GEC abandoned their patent request due to the similarity of Beer Scout to Boy Scout, and the BSA not permitting it. This happened about a year ago. As an Eagle Scout, I found this info to be disappointing.

My understanding is that this has no effect on the knife itself, but just the name of it.
 
Sabercat said:
I may not get all of the terminology correct, but GEC abandoned their patent request due to the similarity of Beer Scout to Boy Scout, and the BSA not permitting it. This happened about a year ago. As an Eagle Scout, I found this info to be disappointing.

My understanding is that this has no effect on the knife itself, but just the name of it.
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Okay, thanks for the clarification.
 
it is highly unlikely that Beer Scout cannot be used as a knife name due to anything "Boy Scout" related.

there would not be a patent, but rather a trademark.

There is zero chance of confusion in the market between a Beer Scout knife for opening beer and a Boy Scout branded product. It is absurd for anyone to suggest confusion could happen.

The inclusion of the word Beer takes it far beyond any chance of a person believeing somehow the Boy Scouts are selling Beer Scout knives.

If BSA threatened GEC over this, a short consult with an intellectual property lawyer would clear this up and allow GEC to continue to use the trademark "Beer Scout."
 
For what it's worth, there's some interesting info on the US Patent and Trademark Office's website about GEC's trademark (or attempted trademark) of the term "Beer Scout Knife." Perhaps someone who knows more about this sort of stuff can chime in (I'll be the first to admit I'm no expert), but it looks like GEC applied for the trademark, it was approved, then it was opposed, and GEC lost. The status of the trademark is now shown as "Dead."

Here's a link to the info on the trademark for anyone that's interested.

And for anyone who doesn't want to dig around, a few screenshots.

Info on the trademark, showing GEC as the owner/applicant and the status as "DEAD/APPLICATION/Refused/Dismissed or Invalidated."

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"Prosecution History," which appears to be a timeline of the application, opposition, appeals, and eventual abandonment/termination.

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"Proceedings" section. Seems pretty clear from this that the Boy Scouts of America were the ones who opposed and ultimately killed the trademark.

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Elgatodeacero said:
it is highly unlikely that Beer Scout cannot be used as a knife name due to anything "Boy Scout" related.

there would not be a patent, but rather a trademark.

There is zero chance of confusion in the market between a Beer Scout knife for opening beer and a Boy Scout branded product. It is absurd for anyone to suggest confusion could happen.

The inclusion of the word Beer takes it far beyond any chance of a person believeing somehow the Boy Scouts are selling Beer Scout knives.

If BSA threatened GEC over this, a short consult with an intellectual property lawyer would clear this up and allow GEC to continue to use the trademark "Beer Scout."
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Yep, I didn't have the terminology correct. It is trademark, not patent.

It was due to Boy Scouts. Perhaps it could have been fought more and the battle won, but maybe the cost would have been too high. Thus the abondonment.

Here are the trademark abandonment details for anyone interested.

https://trademarks.justia.com/873/44/beer-scout-87344877.html
 
Sabercat said:
Yep, I didn't have the terminology correct. It is trademark, not patent.

It was due to Boy Scouts. Perhaps it could have been fought more and the battle won, but maybe the cost would have been too high. Thus the abondonment.

Here are the trademark abandonment details for anyone interested.

https://trademarks.justia.com/873/44/beer-scout-87344877.html
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Jinx! :D

I think you're probably right about it being more trouble than it would've been worth for GEC to try and fight it.
 
I only see GEC labeling the fillet knives as "stainless steel." Does this means it's 420?

Does anybody know if these are at all flexible? I could use a new flexible fillet knife for the upcoming walleye season..
 
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