Lets talk GEC!

Fixall said:
No love for the GEC fixed blades...?!

The H10 is a little small for me at 7" overall... But the H30 and H40 at 7 3/4" and 8 1/2" sound like they would be right up my alley! I wish I could find a comparison shot of the three together so I could get a better idea of the scale. Not sure if I should go with the H30 or H40.

The H30 seems to be about the size of a Spyderco Mule Team or Buck 102, which I think is a pretty nice size for a fixed blade with a blade as thin as the GECs.
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Speaking of the H40...how do you get one? I don’t see them anywhere.

GEC ran some Fish Knives a few months back that I’ve never seen at dealers also.
 
bax229 said:
Speaking of the H40...how do you get one? I don’t see them anywhere.
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I’m fairly sure they haven’t been released just yet.

I’ve been able to find the H10 just about everywhere and the H30 from a single dealer as of yesterday (who only has 3 left).
 
I do wish the blades were longer, being that it's a 3 spring, on the #29. But I'm not a knife designer or enginerr.

I am mostly happy to see they are running some interesting acrylics.

Fixall said:
Bah... I just talked myself into and purchased an H30, lol.

Under $80 was just too cheap to pass up... Especially with those beautiful leather sheaths.
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Their fixed blades are nice. I've given them as gifts because they're what I think of as an heirloom quality fixed blade, although they're certainly usable also, unlike most modern fixed blades. But I haven't kept one yet. I'm hoping they'll have some nice ones at the Rendezvous.
 
cbr1000 said:
I read going forward SFO's with an etch are required to have the dealers name.
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Elgatodeacero said:
I don’t really like dealer names etched on the blade, tang stamp is great, but not name etched on blade.
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cbr1000 said:
Some of the dealers names are fairly long... Will see how this works out. I will be surprised if GEC sticks with this. On the black micarta 93 GP knives posted they didn't want their name on the etch but was required due to new policy. Maybe some dealers will opt for no etch. I guess the blue camel 93 etch or no etch might lend a clue how this is gonna go.
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Jordan@DLT said:
Its a requirement from GEC going forward. We asked about no etch on our #12, but an etch was required. On the #93s, since it's a #93 thread, Gpknives picked a sweet one for their #93 for sure, the piasa bird is very cool on there.
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The above quotes came from the 93 Ram's Foot/Lambfoot thread. They pertain to a new requirement that all SFOs must have a blade etch. Apparently, "no etch" is not an option.

I'd like to see more discussion of this without getting the other thread too far off track.

What are your thoughts? Does anyone know GEC's rationale for this new requirement?
 
MerryMadMonk said:
The above quotes came from the 93 Ram's Foot/Lambfoot thread. They pertain to a new requirement that all SFOs must have a blade etch. Apparently, "no etch" is not an option.

I'd like to see more discussion of this without getting the other thread too far off track.

What are your thoughts? Does anyone know GEC's rationale for this new requirement?
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Definitely an interesting policy. I don't pretend to know why they would require that but my guess is it has something to do with their branding protocol. In my mind, the etch is something I can easily get rid of if I don't like it...not really too concerned about it. I would be interested to understand the rationale though.
 
What I don't care for, regarding the etches, is the ease with which the etch wears off.

It makes it kinda tough to have a "light user" and still preserve the etch. So I tend to like GECs w/o an etch so I don't have to worry about messing it up or preserving it.

Why GEC would require an etch, I have no real idea.

ETA: On the plus side, GECs etches used to be big and ugly. (1 of 50) So the current state of affairs is pretty good I think.
 
Hopefully all of the dealers will find an interesting or striking image for an etch like GP did on the 93.

I have no issue with their names and logos, but I would rather not have it be so prevalent on the knife.

It's certainly not a huge deal at all, but I'd prefer to have a cool or unique image like the piasa bird.
 
bax229 said:
Here’s my suggestion from the 93 thread...

“Nothing against ANY dealers here...not a fan of the etch. The dealer logos are actually keeping me away from some purchases. Why not just etch “Special Factory Order”...on the pile side.”
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Yep, thats why I wasn't interested in DLTs toothpick. I like the company (DLT) and the knife, I just don't want to buy an advertisement.
 
MerryMadMonk said:
What are your thoughts? Does anyone know GEC's rationale for this new requirement?
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Well........ On the good side, this is going to save me a ton of money in the future. I ordinarily despise blade etches. An etch has to be extremely clever, very unique, and quite tastefully done, for me not to absolutely hate it. I've even steered away from some Victorinox SFO's lately, that I wanted very badly, due to backside logo engraving on the alox scales. As a general rule, excessive branding in anathema to me.

I've been kind of on the outs with GEC anyway, given their refusal to do more stainless, mechanical looking jigging, and the tendency toward anemic pull strengths lately, so this just pushes me out the door a little harder. I'll still buy their knives when the stars align and they get an absolute winner, like Charlie's Lambsfoot, but I don't see that happening too often in the future. It looks like GEC has veered course, and is moving in the opposite direction that I am.
 
If this is all true then I wonder why Charlie's lambsfoot SFO doesn't have to have "Waynorth Cutlery" on the etch? Is it because it's now on the tang stamp? Either way, I would advise all the dealers who want to do SFOs to come up with a good brand name. I'm looking at you knifeswapper knifeswapper - Nobody wants to see "Collectorknives" etched on the next round of 77 Barlows ;-) Nothing against your name, but a good knife brand and a good URL for a knife store are 2 totally different things
 
MerryMadMonk said:
The above quotes came from the 93 Ram's Foot/Lambfoot thread. They pertain to a new requirement that all SFOs must have a blade etch. Apparently, "no etch" is not an option.

I'd like to see more discussion of this without getting the other thread too far off track.

What are your thoughts? Does anyone know GEC's rationale for this new requirement?
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I'm sure it has to do with branding. As the SFOs become more numerous in the number and size of orders, GEC wants to differentiate between them and their normal production.

bax229 said:
Here’s my suggestion from the 93 thread...

“Nothing against ANY dealers here...not a fan of the etch. The dealer logos are actually keeping me away from some purchases. Why not just etch “Special Factory Order”...on the pile side.”
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I'm the same here. I would much rather see any "branding" or "dealer name" etch on the pile side. Most etches aren't that interesting to me, though I do think some can be cool, and they're pretty much ONLY of importance on non-user / collector / "safe queen" knives. In my experience as soon as you start using and maintaining a knife the etch goes away pretty quickly.
 
L.H.S said:
I'm sure it has to do with branding. As the SFOs become more numerous in the number and size of orders, GEC wants to differentiate between them and their normal production.
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I would think that if they want to differentiate the SFOs, they could just stamp SFO on the back of the tang. Any blade etch on carbon steel is a temporary mark, anyway.

This thread needs pictures:
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tstaut said:
If this is all true then I wonder why Charlie's lambsfoot SFO doesn't have to have "Waynorth Cutlery" on the etch? Is it because it's now on the tang stamp? Either way, I would advise all the dealers who want to do SFOs to come up with a good brand name. I'm looking at you knifeswapper knifeswapper - Nobody wants to see "Collectorknives" etched on the next round of 77 Barlows ;-) Nothing against your name, but a good knife brand and a good URL for a knife store are 2 totally different things
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That has been a requirement for a long time. All of my sfo's over the last several years have had a "CollectorKnives, GEC's Oldest Active Dealer" etch. It has been in a steel coloring ;)
 
Here is an etch from GEC that I've always thought GEC went overboard on but it was easy enough to polish it out as seen.

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As long as the GEC etch can be easily removed I see no real problem but should GEC start using an abrasive acid etch that might be another story.
 
Modoc ED said:
Here is an etch from GEC that I've always thought GEC went overboard on but it was easy enough to polish it out as seen.

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As long as the GEC etch can be easily removed I see no real problem but should GEC start using an abrasive acid etch that might be another story.
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Ya that etch is pretty bad. Reminds of some of the Case etches...picture of a cheetah or picture of a canoe.
 
The etches are why I never pull the trigger on some of the Bulldog brand knives that look pretty good (except for the gigantic ugly etches) I see for sale in some places.
 
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