Lets talk GEC!

Discussion in 'Traditional Folders and Fixed Blades' started by rockgolfer, Jun 23, 2013.

  1. Tx308

    Tx308

    88
    Dec 30, 2014
    I have one of the 2 GEC grails I wanted. Got lucky and won an auction for an ebony 81 Abilene but paid dearly for it. The one I haven't found and probably won't be able to afford is the Yellow Rose bone 81 Abilene.
     
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  2. JohnDF

    JohnDF Gold Member Gold Member

    May 14, 2018
    My grail is a GEC #76 Krack-a-Jack.
    There was a time I'd pay anything to own that knife, but those feelings are fading.
    I'd still love to own one, but I'm no longer willing to pay what I would have payed in the past.
     
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  3. GaiusJulius

    GaiusJulius

    312
    Jan 9, 2016
    I almost could agree... if you are talking about a single-blade knife. If there’s only one blade, it is slightly handicapped without a point of some type.

    On the other hand, in a two-blade knife, the Spey can slice and cut just as well as any other blade, and possesses two great virtues. First, its lack of a point makes it unlikely to put holes in a place where you don’t want them, which makes it good for skinning small fur-bearers (as well as cutting the gonads off a calf). Second, it’s an unparalleled shape for dipping and spreading butter, jelly, vegemite, or whatever concoction you prefer on your toast. Try it with a clip and let us know how that goes.
     
  4. gaj999

    gaj999 Basic Member Basic Member

    Jan 25, 2004
    I keep mine howling sharp and only cut soft materials, or shave hair, or calluses, or trim nails, or anything where a very thin sharp blade without a sharp point is useful. I like having one so long as I have the other two blades for general use. My kinda sorta grail is the old Cattle Baron pattern: clip, sheepsfoot, spey, and punch in a nice 4 1/8 cigar frame without half stops ... make me one of those in a high-quality stainless and I might lose bladder control.
     
  5. Jiki

    Jiki Basic Member Basic Member

    Jun 12, 2018
    This discussion leads me to the beauty of the Dixie Stockman with the drop point in place of the spey. Being a suburbanite myself I do not have the traditional need for the spey blade. Don't get me wrong I still like to carry my traditional stockmans however the 82 for me really adds layers of usefulness. Now if we could convince Mr Howard to build one on the 35 frame with either the spey or the drop point.
     
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  6. SnackPack

    SnackPack Gold Member Gold Member

    83
    Nov 21, 2019
    For me it was the Waynorth Lambsfoot. Finally found a jigged bone NIT last week. Amazing knife and everything that I could ask for. Slim profile, great reach, single blade, the best F&F I’ve ever seen. Add to that the historicity of an iconic English knife made to the highest standards of any production traditional today and you’ve got a knife that’ll last a lifetime.
     
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  7. Matt Bernier

    Matt Bernier

    122
    Aug 19, 2017
    A 35 as a boy scout camp knife.
     
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  8. Matt Bernier

    Matt Bernier

    122
    Aug 19, 2017
    I suppose this is why there are so many blade shapes for different people, because it's my most used blade shape by far, and I find it totally irreplacable. The shape allows for unparalelled control of depth of cut, is able to pierce while preventing accidental poking, and can cut one layer of material while leaving an underlying surface unharmed. I use it for hangnails, first aid, and calluses. There is no better tool for working with skin.

    Days may go by without me using my main blade, but my spey gets used many times a day.
     
  9. EngrSorenson

    EngrSorenson Basic Member Basic Member

    687
    Jul 3, 2019
    the interesting thing about sheepsfoot versus wharnecliffe is that it’s what’s behind the edge that matters. Wharnecliffe blades are unparalleled whittlers because of the pointed tip, but the sheepsfoot is sturdier with the aggressive tip- in can use it as a marking knife band not worry about the tip breaking off. I can also ride the angled portion of the sheepsfoot blade on my work piece and plane into corners without damaging the adjacent surface.

    I think you’re right; the types of cutting tasks haven’t changed. I’d gamble that we’re doing more point-oriented cutting lately, which might make the straight edged blades more desirable.

    related note, spey blades are more preferable to me than skinner blades because it provides a more accessible tip. That grind might remove some of the piercing effectiveness, but it adds a usable point.


    I like your point about the single blades knife needing some kind of point.

    ... then you had to go bring peanut butter into this... :p:D:rolleyes:
     
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  10. dantzk8

    dantzk8

    Nov 1, 2005
    I'm surprised nobody points out how useful a speyblade can be at whittling. For some tasks like working inside the cage of a "ball in cage". I somehow use the speyblade like a wood chisel with the help of my free thumb as a fulcrum.

    Dan.
     
  11. EngrSorenson

    EngrSorenson Basic Member Basic Member

    687
    Jul 3, 2019
    huh... it’s interesting- I’ve done the same thing on the same project. Ultimately I focus on making slicing cuts because I think that’s the best way to go, but that’s a great point.

    i also like the tight slicing motion I can make with the long edge on the tight radius belly on a smaller Spey, though honestly it’s not my go-to choice.
     
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  12. dantzk8

    dantzk8

    Nov 1, 2005
    I hear you, it depends of the wood grain, slicing cuts work well when i cut with the grain but when, it happens, i have to cut through the grain, then i do like the belly shape of the spey. I also like it for dealing with wood knots. The ones i hit on ash wood, a wood i like, are tough ones. I often use different blade shapes for a project but if i had to only use a one it would be a sheep foot thought i like the spear one also. I plan to get the F&F 62 carver, i'm not too anxious at using it, for what i've seen the tip doesn't seem that acute. Anyway a good file can solve this kind of problem.

    Dan.
     
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  13. N8Frog

    N8Frog

    19
    Sep 14, 2017
    Finally completed my set of Waynorth Lambsfoots! White bone, Ebony, and Jigged bone. Very fortunate
     
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  14. Markeologist

    Markeologist Basic Member Basic Member

    Jul 21, 2018
    Well said! I too think a grail must be so rare and so sought by others that the chance of ever obtaining one is slim to none.
     
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  15. Ajd3530

    Ajd3530

    360
    Jan 20, 2017
    I reckon its good for my wallet, but the combination of rising secondary market prices and the fact that they're on pace to produce, maybe, 8 different patterns this year, the excitement for GEC just isn't what it used to be for me. And that really bums me out.

    In terms of a "grail," I missed the opportunity for mine a few weeks ago by about 10 minutes. I'm not sure I'll ever see a turquoise NF #16 at a decent price ever again.
     
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  16. JohnDF

    JohnDF Gold Member Gold Member

    May 14, 2018
    Yes, the secondary market pricing is driving me away from the brand unless I can buy retail.
    Used to be a "grail" might cost you double the retail price. Now, it's just not even worth it for me to even look at them.
     
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  17. tmd_87

    tmd_87 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 29, 2016
    Agree with all of it!
     
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  18. Will Power

    Will Power

    Jan 18, 2007
    GRAIL? They haven't made it yet :D;)

    Shadow or Tip-Bolster, 3 3/8" or 3.5" like a scaled down 38, Spear master Clip secondary. Or Drop-Point /Pen or Spear/small Sheepfoot or Pruner;) Grooved Stag, interesting Jigged bone, Micarta oh and I want it all steel and one version carbon the other stainless 154 :cool: Not a big ask :D

    In the meantime, the 62s have turned out with impressive build-quality, nobody comes close to GEC at the moment.:thumbsup:
     
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  19. N8Frog

    N8Frog

    19
    Sep 14, 2017
    [​IMG]My grail is an ebony Beer Scout
     
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  20. Snodgrass

    Snodgrass Gold Member Gold Member

    269
    Feb 7, 2016
    An ebony beer scout is second on my list after an 85 bloodwood 2 blade to complete my 85 bloodwood set.
    I've knocked out a few grails recently: Michigan Jack in denim and I've got a Fremont in denim and a tiger maple 85 in the mail. The tiger maple has been at the top of my list for over two years, since they were released, I guess. A couple months back I decided to stop hunting because I find the harder I look for something the less likely they are pop up. So I put it in the knife gods hands. I try to keep good 'karma' (positive dealings with others and never making money on sales) in hopes that it'll come around to me in the long run. This time it worked out and I got it for, what was to me, a reasonable price. It should be here tomorrow!
    I'm think that I'm going to try to get the jigged and bone 93s next to go with my ebony. I know it's a long shot on the bone but I got some good trade fodder built up.
    Cheers all, thanks for sharing!
     

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