Lets talk GEC!

I think it depends on where you live.
Here in Kalifornia, I've had some GEC knives in tubes for years with no effect.
The only time I oil them is when I pull them out to use them, and then it's just the joint.
 
knifeswapper said:
I have knives still sitting in their original oil paper in the original tube since 2007 and no issue whatsoever.
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I think that's what's saving the knives. The claim was made that cardboard isn't good to store carbon steel in, because of acid content (which I can't speak to) or the absorption of water. I suspect the whole purpose of the oil paper is to make a barrier for the knife. Assuming the knife hasn't been handled much, received a good initial oil drenching, and was stored in the original paper, I don't see why it would be a problem to leave them in the tube as you stated.

The point is to really see if prolonged storage in a cardboard box is a concern for carbon steel (or anything that oxidizes, really).

Worthy discussion!
 
SteveC said:
I was wondering the same thing .
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I think the factory ran out of bone to jig. I am still waiting on the 2 blade models. Thus, I suspect when the bone is ready we will see more 2blades and the linerlocks come thru together.


EngrSorenson said:
I think that's what's saving the knives. The claim was made that cardboard isn't good to store carbon steel in, because of acid content (which I can't speak to) or the absorption of water. I suspect the whole purpose of the oil paper is to make a barrier for the knife. Assuming the knife hasn't been handled much, received a good initial oil drenching, and was stored in the original paper, I don't see why it would be a problem to leave them in the tube as you stated.
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This was something I had wondered about as well. I just remembered I had a prototype in a tube without any paper, etc. Checked it and after 10 years it is still perfectly fine. I wonder if there doesn't have to be some significant contact?
 
knifeswapper said:
This was something I had wondered about as well. I just remembered I had a prototype in a tube without any paper, etc. Checked it and after 10 years it is still perfectly fine. I wonder if there doesn't have to be some significant contact?
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Well that's a valuable data point! I guess if I think about it, these cardboard tubes are finished with something. Paint of some kind? maybe wax? It might do a decent enough job at sealing the contents.
 
My 23 beaver liner lock just came in. This thing is a beauty! I was shocked by how strong they got the spring on a knife this big. The spring on my 97 was super light compared to my 23. I was also pleasantly surprised how tight the lock up was. I heard a lot of reports that there is usually some blade play on traditional liner locks but the lock on this 23LL is as good as any modern folder. Well done GEC!!
 
AZCoyote said:
My 23 beaver liner lock just came in. This thing is a beauty! I was shocked by how strong they got the spring on a knife this big. The spring on my 97 was super light compared to my 23. I was also pleasantly surprised how tight the lock up was. I heard a lot of reports that there is usually some blade play on traditional liner locks but the lock on this 23LL is as good as any modern folder. Well done GEC!!
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I wish I had a use for a knife that big; the work they did on the handles was awesome... I can't get over it- looks like a beaver took to it.
 
EngrSorenson said:
I wish I had a use for a knife that big; the work they did on the handles was awesome... I can't get over it- looks like a beaver took to it.
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I agree the knife is on the bigger size, probably too big for me to carry, but it makes for a perfect food prep knife. I mainly used my 97 for carving up roasted chicken but now that responsibly will be taken over by my 23. Plus the 23 blade stock is a little thinner so it should be a better slicer.
 
Can the brown wax paper that GEC uses be purchased somewhere? It if cannot be mentioned publicly here, can someone send me a private message?
 
EngrSorenson said:
I think that's what's saving the knives. The claim was made that cardboard isn't good to store carbon steel in, because of acid content (which I can't speak to) or the absorption of water. I suspect the whole purpose of the oil paper is to make a barrier for the knife. Assuming the knife hasn't been handled much, received a good initial oil drenching, and was stored in the original paper, I don't see why it would be a problem to leave them in the tube as you stated.

The point is to really see if prolonged storage in a cardboard box is a concern for carbon steel (or anything that oxidizes, really).

Worthy discussion!
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I believe the paper in the tubes is waxed; not oiled..... My opinion on storage is that the environment the knife is stored in is more important than the container it is stored in......
 
AZCoyote said:
Totally understand where you are coming from. I just collect mainly folders so I'm usually looking for excuses to use said folders. Also makes it easier to justify to my girlfriend why I buy so many when I put them all to use.
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I didn’t mean to imply my preference is in any way better or more logical than anyone else’s, I just don’t like to pocket carry a large folder (without a clip), so I would carry it in a belt sheath. If I am carrying a knife on my belt, a fixed is easier to withdraw one handed, so I would just go with that.
 
Lots of folks store them in the tubes. I suspect if you store the tubes in a humid or damp environment, the waxed paper + fairly light factory oiling is not going to do a 100% job on easy-rusting carbon steel.

I personally store mine in a drawer, out of the tubes. More because I like to look at them than any other reason. I wouldn’t think storing in the tube (with paper) would be at all detrimental as long as they were re-oiled before storage.
 
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