Little knives rejoice!

axesbold said:
Yes but the width is 1/2"....
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Seems right in line with the confusing/contradictory nature of bureaucratic red tape, doesn't it? Maybe the width spec is the TSA's own 'enhancement' to the new rule, if perhaps other standards previously might not've specified a width limit (I honestly don't know).

Odd thing is (additionally), box-cutters are still banned, many/most of which all have blades shorter than the new length limit, and some even with narrower blades as well.

David
 
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pertinux said:
Lengthwise, it's (very) good to go:
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However, the width oonches right at (if not over) 1/2" (it's closer than this image makes it look, because of the angle):
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From this article:
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And further:
TSA spokesman David Castelveter said the changes announced Tuesday will not slow down the screening process by requiring screeners to measure knife blades and weigh plastic bats. Screeners will use "common sense" when applying the rule, he said.​

Without a ruler, and at the mercy of the TSA screeners' "Common Sense" (sic)...? I'd be leery of risking a Pemberton given the main blade's width.

~ P.
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Well fer gosh sakés ~P, just sharpen it up a few times on a nice course old carborunum stone and it'll slin=m right on down!:D

Carl.
 
On April 25, everyone please start posting your experiences. I fly at least every other month and would love to have at least a peanut on me, but it will some cheep SAK classic for the first few flights until I'm sure all the agents got the memo.
 
Well I misjudged the width on some of my larger clip blades, but I still have over a dozen that qualify. And that doesn't include the Victorinox knives (even the Climber, Fieldmaster, Huntsman are within spec).
 
I know I got a bunch of RRs that will fill the bill. You can always carry a bigger knife in your checked luggage, and I keep mine in my shaving kit.
 
Doug, I measured my Victorinox Bantam (it's an 84mm length), which has a 6.2 cm blade length. Are you sure about the larger SAKs you listed?

I think if you carry something near the limit, you are leaving it to the discretion of the TSA agent. I'm not sure if I want to risk it, even if the knife only cost $12.
 
grelcar said:
Case Swayback Jack is good to go!
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Measured my Case SBJ - it's right exactly at 6cm from point to the front of the handle. I'd hate to risk a nice one on the chance that the agent's ruler is slightly off.
 
Screeners will use "common sense" when applying the rule

Since when has TSA had any "common sense" (i.e., patting down a 3-year old girl and detaining her, strip searching grandma, etc.).

People will push the envelope and try to get something just a bit bigger than specified through the checkpoints and it won't be long before it'll be back to no knives again.

Wonder how they (TSA) will look at a cork screw on a SAK no matter the size of the knife?
 
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After just measuring a handful of knives in the 3-1/4 to 3-3/8 inch closed range, it is apparent to me that to meet the regs you need a truly small knife. I thought several of the ones I measured would be OK, but they were all at least 2.4" or longer, tip to bolster.
 
pertinux said:
Lengthwise, it's (very) good to go:
IMG_7325_zpsb2218e16.jpg


However, the width oonches right at (if not over) 1/2" (it's closer than this image makes it look, because of the angle):
IMG_7326_zpscf6f1ca4.jpg


From this article:
130305161255-tsa-knives-story-top.jpg



And further:
TSA spokesman David Castelveter said the changes announced Tuesday will not slow down the screening process by requiring screeners to measure knife blades and weigh plastic bats. Screeners will use "common sense" when applying the rule, he said.​

Without a ruler, and at the mercy of the TSA screeners' "Common Sense" (sic)...? I'd be leery of risking a Pemberton given the main blade's width.

~ P.
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That's a cool knife. Though I would probably limit myself to small SAKs, at least early on when the changes have taken place.

Jim
 
Modoc ED said:
Screeners will use "common sense" when applying the rule

Since when has TSA had any "common sense" (i.e., patting down a 3-year old girl and detaining her, strip searching grandma, etc.).

People will push the envelope and try to get something just a bit bigger than specified through the checkpoints and it won't be long before it'll be back to no knives again.

Wonder how they (TSA) will look at a cork screw on a SAK no matter the size of the knife?
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All good questions. The above image ("Knives Allowed"), directly from the TSA's own document (I didn't realize that when I first saw it in an article), clearly shows that corkscrews are a non-factor-- not that that will necessarily be brought to bear in a "common sense" scenario.

While on the tippy-edges of the discussion here, I'm curious about why "molded grips" are on the still-banned list. As in, a knife with blades that meet the size requirements can still be disallowed due to its handle. I wonder if "gum fuddy" (dis)qualifies.... ;)

James Y said:
That's a cool knife. Though I would probably limit myself to small SAKs, at least early on when the changes have taken place.


Jim
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Thanks! I've been enjoying it all over again, having retrieved it for the purposes of TSA measurements, etc. :)

I don't remember the last time I flew(!), but wouldn't risk the Pemberton until I've sharpened it down a bit (good idea, Carl, although I'm going to let time, use, and the need to sharpen get me there ;)), received all the right kinds of "all clear" anecdotes, and... well, maybe not even then.



~ P.
 
dogstar said:
Doug, I measured my Victorinox Bantam (it's an 84mm length), which has a 6.2 cm blade length. Are you sure about the larger SAKs you listed?

I think if you carry something near the limit, you are leaving it to the discretion of the TSA agent. I'm not sure if I want to risk it, even if the knife only cost $12.
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According to the graphic they measure blade length differently than I do. The Climber, Fieldmaster, and Huntsman are still banned. A shame, because one of those three goes everywhere I do.
 
Typically, for law enforcement purposes, the blade is measured from the tip to where the blade disappears into the handle. It is not the cutting edge which is measured. It is the entire blade including the tang.
 
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