Liu Kang. Hopefully this wont need 111 pages to work

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+98 I've never done any business with the guy but I know what kind of person he is by hearing other's experiences. I don't want to to do business with someone that slimy.
 
This is another reason why you should NEVER post your email address in a sales thread. Lurkers can see the exchange and can contact you pretending to be someone else. If you get burned by a lurker, there is about nothing we can do about it.
 
Guyon said:
+97. This guy needs as much bad press as he can get.

The Liu Kang Guide to HOG-like behavior:

- Try to circumvent Dealer status as long as possible.
- Sell a defective knife and immediately try to pass the responsibility onto the manufacturer.
- Sell knives to new members at ridiculous mark-ups.
- Regularly send lowball offers to try and increase your profit margin.
- Impel rule changes at BFC because of spam-like practices on the sale boards.
- Ask that members remove prices on knives you've bought to obscure your profit margin.
- Use Busse forum posts and signature line to drive up interest in sales.
- Use Busse forum as your own personal market data to send for-sale offers.
- Chime in on knives with over-the-top enthusiasm, but most particularly when you have those knives for sale.
- Post pictures of yourself in a Speedo.
- Use a shill account to purchase knives that would otherwise be inaccessible.
- Undercut/lowball a veteran trying to move some knives to meet basic needs.
- Eventually get banned from BFC.
- Continue to mine BFC for victims even after banning.
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Don't forget about when the Busse flavor of the month was Leaners. He went on a buying spree and bought everyone in the exchange and flipped them back at the Busse crowd with huge markups. Talk about a jerk!
 
Tun-chun ,

now on ebay he sets up all his knives in auction format but reserves the right to end em. Its one thing to have a buy it now, or even buy it now with best offer, and reserve right to sell if its listed elsewhere cause folks had the opportunity to buy it now or make an offer, but ending an auction only when it doesn't suit you or your shills cant run it up high enough is despicable. This is typical Liu Kang's Grail knives behavior.

Most recent example that was previously mentioned was a custom(wont mention brand out of respect)that he stated he won direct so it was $550. It was at high $900's might even went a little over $1000 before he ended it. THe auction still had almost two days left and he ended it cause doubling his money wasn't enough.

Hopefully, it wont take ebay 111 pages of auctions ended early to close his account there too.
 
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A crook easily spotted from day one. Eventually they (almost all) stick out like a sore thumb. People say it is only the internet. No not here. A person's reputation in the knife community is on the line. Thankfully the bad apples in the knife community pretty much without fail start to stink. Even though many of us do not meet face to face to get to know each other many of us do. The rubber meets the road when that happens. It is an amazing community.

To those traveling to Blade next week. Have a great and safe trip.

As much as I enjoy old friends and I will, I hope to meet as many of you as I can for the first time and make new ones.

Gus
 
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They already know about his practices, at least a couple of the mods do.
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La Bella is the owner, and he knows after Dan slandered me and another member from here over on his forum.

THe thread was heavily edited, but to my knowledge nothing was done to Dan.:(
 
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knife hunter said:
La Bella is the owner, and he knows after Dan slandered me and another member from here over on his forum.

THe thread was heavily edited, but to my knowledge nothing was done to Dan.:(
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A bunch of guys crying foul over the same stuff they do to each other on multiple forums it seemed to LaBella. You both dragged other people over to JerzeeDevil, trying to make MY house YOUR battle ground. I doubt VERY MUCH that Spark would endure such antics and lack of respect.

Be a man, and admit that this has absolutely ZERO to do with JerzeeDevil Forums right now!!!!!!!
 
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LaBella said:
A bunch of guys crying foul over the same stuff they do to each other on multiple forums it seemed to LaBella. You both dragged other people over to JerzeeDevil, trying to make MY house YOUR battle ground. I doubt VERY MUCH that Spark would endure such antics and lack of respect.

Be a man, and admit that this has absolutely ZERO to do with JerzeeDevil Forums right now!!!!!!!
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Be a man? Really? I didn't start anything on your forum. I only responded within the rules and still didn't mention a word about cross forum posting on your forum. I sure didn't drag anyone over to your forums either. Actually, I was contacted by some of my friends that are also forum regulars on your site that were adamant that I come over and give Dan the arss whooping he so deserved which I did like a man. It was you that edited it all and covered up his actions. Just as one of your mods stated that Dan was a paying member and I wasn't.

Then you took a God like attitude and treated me like a child cause you own the forum, and didn't like that I stated that he should be banned etc which was correct. I might have signed up if you hadn't treated me so poorly. Not only

My only mistake was expecting you to act like a responsible adult and deal with Liu Kang properly, and thinking you would possibly extend the same professional courtesy to me that I would have to you if Dan had came to my forum and slandered you or one of your moderators. I never would have edited your post and said" removed all traces of this faggotry". Not only cause it would have been embarrising to you, but because that's slanderous and bigoted to a whole group and segment of society. I guess that's ok for you as owner of the Devils.

I also notified you of Liu Kangs cross forum posting of over 200 threads in his index of knives which you have done nothing about for months since being notified, but as you have proven with your obnoxious attitude and profanity that you think you are above the rules and want it your way even though you had posted in the thread and encouraged the argument as long as cross forum issue where left out. Well, it wasn't me that brought up a crazy tale that as you even stated in the thread that it had nothing to do about me. It was Dan , Liu Kang that did that and cross forum posted even after you told him not too.

I did say that he should be banned from your forums for slandering another mod from another forum because you also insist your mods to be respected, but then you disrespected us all saying your a mod here too and big Freaking deal...who cares. Well, that's true but it still goes back to professional courtesty. Well, you don't get to have your cake and eat it too Ron. Not here.

Most importantly I never said this had anything to do with Jerzee devil or blamed you in anyway. The truth is as stated above....a member here asked if you were aware of his poor business practices. Another as well as my self simply said that you are aware. If that bothers you then I suggest you take it up with the person that has caused you such embarrishment over your lack to hold him, Dan Huang, the guilty party responsible.
 
LaBella said:
I doubt VERY MUCH that Spark would endure such antics and lack of respect.
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No I don't think Spark really would, he's shown his stand up character time and time again. That is why Dan is banned, and the parties responsible for his demise (knife hunter pretty much being the leading force) have been respected for such NOBLE actions NOT accused of homosexuality (bigot insult) and censored. You know noble actions like going to YOUR forum out his OWN accord, compiling evidence at on his OWN time, to WARN YOUR forum about a fraudulent, lying scum dealer who will do anything to make a buck including screw over, and prey on veterans, disabled people, financially incapable and more.

PS: I actually did keep up with what happened in JerzeeDevils in regards to Dan before you say anything (since you can say whatever you want, no more content is available there). Dan didn't just stick to ripping people off here, I am certain he's preyed on everyone in the knife community. Inside and outside the internet.

Sorry to say but Knife Hunter did right by calling him out in your forum and others. It's a service to your community, not him.
 
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Ron Labella,

It is just a matter of time before Dan Huang/Liu Kang screws you if he hasn't already.



LaBella said:
A bunch of guys crying foul over the same stuff they do to each other on multiple forums it seemed to LaBella. You both dragged other people over to JerzeeDevil, trying to make MY house YOUR battle ground. I doubt VERY MUCH that Spark would endure such antics and lack of respect.

Be a man, and admit that this has absolutely ZERO to do with JerzeeDevil Forums right now!!!!!!!
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If you've got a scumbag on your forum who's a known scammer and you refuse to take action against him, you're as much of a problem as he is.

How many Jerzee Devil members have to get ripped off before this is an issue for you?

The whole knife community should be rallying against this guy. Make it impossible to make money off our interests. And when he moves on to something else, ruin that for him too.
 
Grimspoon said:
If you've got a scumbag on your forum who's a known scammer and you refuse to take action against him, you're as much of a problem as he is.

How many Jerzee Devil members have to get ripped off before this is an issue for you?

The whole knife community should be rallying against this guy. Make it impossible to make money off our interests. And when he moves on to something else, ruin that for him too.
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Please read a couple of posts up, #115 in particular. We do not need or want any cross forum issues brewing and there will be none. This isn't the JD, LK has been banned a half dozen times already and he will continue to be banned, period. If you have issue with the way the JD is run, we can't help you here and I would suggest that you take it up with them, over there. No further insinuations along this line will continue.
 
Grimspoon said:
If you've got a scumbag on your forum who's a known scammer and you refuse to take action against him, you're as much of a problem as he is.

How many Jerzee Devil members have to get ripped off before this is an issue for you?

The whole knife community should be rallying against this guy. Make it impossible to make money off our interests. And when he moves on to something else, ruin that for him too.
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That's what I am talking about!! How come he is not cut off at the source? There is a very limited channel to get these particular knives and he seems to get tons and tons of them, including Custom Shop blades.
 
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